[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color = "crimson">Thomas Quinn wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]YourValentine wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I agree with Melissa, LSD is totally useless. There is no therapeutical use and the side effects are heavy. Flashbacks and "trailing" have been reported in many studies and it's just ridiculous to claim that "propaganda" was the reason for forbidding LSD. A chemical substance with no use and a danger potential has to be taken off the market, I don't understand how this can be questioned. [/QUOTE]
Excuse me? No therapeutical use? Please cut it out, the two of you obviously don't know anything.
- In the 1950s, it was used to treat alcoholics. Success rate: >50%. Comparison: AA scores under 10%
- It has been used for years in the treatment of schizofrenia, and with succes!
- During the 1950s and '60s, up to the ban, it was used for a variety of psychiatrical disorders, again with a succes-rate of about 50%, sometimes more.
That's only the tip of the iceberg there.
As for the dangerous potential: several experts on neurology and chemistry have declared that the chances of LSD 'flashbacks' are zero, seeing as there is NOTHING of the drug left in the body after less than 10 hours. There have been NO cases of anyone getting themselves killed by irresponsible behaviour related to LSD and NO physical side-effects are possible, due to the short half-life of the drug in the body.
I wrote a paper on this, aced it and know my material. Don't think that your urban-legend based ideas about this are remotely correct. If you'd bother to look into it, which you easily can, you will find that your views on LSD are about a galaxy away from making any sense whatsoever.[/QUOTE]
Your whole reply is completely untrue, especially the part where you claim YV and I know nothing. If I get some time later on, I'll post my evidence, but I can assure you Thomas; if you believe what you've posted to be true, you must have been using LSD while composing it because it is cleary written by a delusional person.
I really wish you weren't so bull-headed and narrow-minded. On one hand, I admire your self confidence and determination, but on the other hand I want to shake you a little bit and scream WAKE UP in your ear! Just because you've written a paper on something and quoted references does not make you the all-knowing authority on the subject. You've got to consider your sources. Of course the creator of LSD or someone who stands to gain from people using it/buying is going to advocate for it. Just because you "aced" the paper doesn't mean your subject matter is accurate. It simply means you've followed your teacher's instructions on how to compose the paper, you've used proper grammar, sentence structure, met the length requirements, etc. Do you honestly think your teacher took the time to read your sources to make sure what you wrote was accurate and true? My guess is the paper was an opinionated paper where you were to choose a stance on something and argue your point. How could you not "ace" this type of paper as long as you've met the instructor's criteria for length, subject matter, and grammar?
If I've learned one thing from your posts, it's that you pick and choose what you want to hear and learn from something and that is the do all, say all, hear all on that subject. No one or nothing can tell you different and when they do, you resort to rudeness and name calling. If some radical you loved told you the sky was red and not blue, you'd believe it and wouldn't stray from it. I also bet you'd call anyone who agrued with you stupid. Congrats on your determination but your stubborness will get you no where when it's time to step in to the real world.
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I wish they'd make that a felony
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Queen Of Wrestling<h6>Jamie's Louvre wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I wish they'd make that a felony[/QUOTE]
Alcohol is responsible for more innocent deaths, but unlike drugs it's legal, and unlike cigarrettes it's advertisement is far more wide on the media.
Alcohol is responsible for more innocent deaths, but unlike drugs it's legal, and unlike cigarrettes it's advertisement is far more wide on the media.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Mr.Jingles wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Queen Of Wrestling<h6>Jamie's Louvre wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I wish they'd make that a felony[/QUOTE]
Alcohol is responsible for more innocent deaths, but unlike drugs it's legal, and unlike cigarrettes it's advertisement is far more wide on the media.[/QUOTE]
Thats BS too. Then with our dumbfuck Athletic Director (not remotely athletic) he lets the dance team and basketball teams get away with it while he'll suspend anyone from the CC, Track, Wrestling, Tennis or Soccer team in a blink.
Thank God the Principal tells him to fuck off
Alcohol is responsible for more innocent deaths, but unlike drugs it's legal, and unlike cigarrettes it's advertisement is far more wide on the media.[/QUOTE]
Thats BS too. Then with our dumbfuck Athletic Director (not remotely athletic) he lets the dance team and basketball teams get away with it while he'll suspend anyone from the CC, Track, Wrestling, Tennis or Soccer team in a blink.
Thank God the Principal tells him to fuck off
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color = "crimson">Thomas Quinn wrote: [/QUOTENAME]For your enjoyment, some of my sources:
Bernard Aaronson and Humphrey Osmond
Dr. Albert Hofmann
Dr. Richard Alpert
Drs. Timothy Leary
Extra: Dr. Peter Goadsby --> LSD is the only known treatment for cluster-headaches[/QUOTE]
You've really mastered the art of selecting sources to prove a point. Do you suppose that there is any bias in the research that you have conducted? Facts do have a way of being manipulated.
Anyway, here's my own little Leary interjection
Legend of a Mind - Moody Blues
Timothy Leary's dead
No, no, no
He's outside looking in
Timothy Leary's dead
No, no, no
He's outside looking in
He'll fly his astral plane
Takes you trips around the bay
Brings you back the same day
Timothy Leary
Timothy Leary
Timothy Leary's dead
No, no, no
He's outside looking in
Timothy Leary's dead
No, no, no
He's outside looking in
He'll fly his astral plane
Takes you trips around the bay
Brings you back the same day
Timothy Leary
Timothy Leary
Along the coast you'll hear them boast
About a light they say that shines so clear
So raise your glass, we'll drink a toast
To the little man
Who sells you thrills along the pier
He'll take you up, he'll bring you down
He'll plant your feet back firmly on the ground
He flies so high, he swoops so low
He knows exactly which way he's gonna go
Timothy Leary
Timothy Leary
He'll take you up, he'll bring you down
He'll plant your feet back on the ground
He'll fly so high, he'll swoop so low
Timothy Leary
He'll fly his astral plane
He'll take you trips around the bay
He'll bring you back the same day
Timothy Leary
Timothy Leary
Bernard Aaronson and Humphrey Osmond
Dr. Albert Hofmann
Dr. Richard Alpert
Drs. Timothy Leary
Extra: Dr. Peter Goadsby --> LSD is the only known treatment for cluster-headaches[/QUOTE]
You've really mastered the art of selecting sources to prove a point. Do you suppose that there is any bias in the research that you have conducted? Facts do have a way of being manipulated.
Anyway, here's my own little Leary interjection
Legend of a Mind - Moody Blues
Timothy Leary's dead
No, no, no
He's outside looking in
Timothy Leary's dead
No, no, no
He's outside looking in
He'll fly his astral plane
Takes you trips around the bay
Brings you back the same day
Timothy Leary
Timothy Leary
Timothy Leary's dead
No, no, no
He's outside looking in
Timothy Leary's dead
No, no, no
He's outside looking in
He'll fly his astral plane
Takes you trips around the bay
Brings you back the same day
Timothy Leary
Timothy Leary
Along the coast you'll hear them boast
About a light they say that shines so clear
So raise your glass, we'll drink a toast
To the little man
Who sells you thrills along the pier
He'll take you up, he'll bring you down
He'll plant your feet back firmly on the ground
He flies so high, he swoops so low
He knows exactly which way he's gonna go
Timothy Leary
Timothy Leary
He'll take you up, he'll bring you down
He'll plant your feet back on the ground
He'll fly so high, he'll swoop so low
Timothy Leary
He'll fly his astral plane
He'll take you trips around the bay
He'll bring you back the same day
Timothy Leary
Timothy Leary
The narrow-minded people here are you two, Lisser and YV. I'm not going to waste any more breath on you. I've proven my point, and if you can't handle that, it only goes to show you are archconservatives deep down, not willing to accept anything regarless of evidence, because it doesn't fit in with your pretty pathetic image of the world.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color = "crimson">Thomas Quinn wrote: [/QUOTENAME]The narrow-minded people here are you two, Lisser and YV. I'm not going to waste any more breath on you. I've proven my point, and if you can't handle that, it only goes to show you are archconservatives deep down, not willing to accept anything regarless of evidence, because it doesn't fit in with your pretty pathetic image of the world.[/QUOTE]
We bow down before Thomas Quinn. He who knows all....
We bow down before Thomas Quinn. He who knows all....
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]PieterMC wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color = "crimson">Thomas Quinn wrote: [/QUOTENAME]The narrow-minded people here are you two, Lisser and YV. I'm not going to waste any more breath on you. I've proven my point, and if you can't handle that, it only goes to show you are archconservatives deep down, not willing to accept anything regarless of evidence, because it doesn't fit in with your pretty pathetic image of the world.[/QUOTE]
We bow down before Thomas Quinn. He who knows all....[/QUOTE]
After spending several months researching this subject, fuck yes! More than you lot, apparently.
We bow down before Thomas Quinn. He who knows all....[/QUOTE]
After spending several months researching this subject, fuck yes! More than you lot, apparently.
There we go again - resorting to name calling. You need anger management urgently. But probably you don't dare to attack people in real life, it needs a keyboard for you to feel strong. Speaking of pathetic.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]YourValentine wrote: [/QUOTENAME]There we go again - resorting to name calling. You need anger management urgently. But probably you don't dare to attack people in real life, it needs a keyboard for you to feel strong. Speaking of pathetic.[/QUOTE]
Ah, so me saying you are ignorant because you ignore evidence is name calling? You need help.
Ah, so me saying you are ignorant because you ignore evidence is name calling? You need help.
I think you need to take a look in the mirror. So quick to attack others.
What do I need help for, Thomas Quinn?
For getting the delusions out of your head. If you interpret being called ignorant for refusing to accept a solid fact as namecalling, you are delusional.
Anyway, I'm not going to waste anymore time on convincing you. I have the scientists on my side. You know, the guys who actually KNOW what they're talking about.
I'm sure the anti-LSD lobby will be thrilled to have such knowledgeable people as you and Lisser on theirs.
Anyway, I'm not going to waste anymore time on convincing you. I have the scientists on my side. You know, the guys who actually KNOW what they're talking about.
I'm sure the anti-LSD lobby will be thrilled to have such knowledgeable people as you and Lisser on theirs.
I'm very sad for you Thomas. You're such a frustrated young person. You've got no respect for anyone or anything. I pitty your parents.
Just because people have a different opinion than you do or just because people disagree with your logic does not mean they are ingorant. I know that I am not ignorant. You can think it all you want, but it's not a fact. I think it is very ignorant of you to be so narrow-minded yet you call me close-minded because I don't feel the same way you do about LSD. You are being so hypocritical yet you don't even realize it because you are so stubborn.
I can't imagine you've got many friends since you are so bull-headed. I bet you'd never be friends with anyone who doesn't share your same exact beliefs. How boring is that? It's all very explainable now that you've started this whole LSD discussion. You are no doubt, delusional as a result of your usage of LSD.
You would be a great cult leader. Cult leaders can't stand anyone who they can't brain wash or who do not share their same beliefs. Why is it that if someone disagrees with you you think they are ingorant? I just can't fathom why you think you are so devine that you may call anyone who disagrees with you ingorant or narrow-minded. A 14 year old at that!!! You are 14 right? I have always been impressed by you and I am even more so now that you've managed to get rises out of so many respected people on this board at such a juvenille age and mentality.
Since you've decided to waste no more time on me, I'll oblige and do the same. I won't read anymore of your posts or reply to them. I suggest that everyone else on here do the same, especially if you don't agree with Thomas' ideas. Because if you don't agree with them, you are ignorant, so just accept that.
Just because people have a different opinion than you do or just because people disagree with your logic does not mean they are ingorant. I know that I am not ignorant. You can think it all you want, but it's not a fact. I think it is very ignorant of you to be so narrow-minded yet you call me close-minded because I don't feel the same way you do about LSD. You are being so hypocritical yet you don't even realize it because you are so stubborn.
I can't imagine you've got many friends since you are so bull-headed. I bet you'd never be friends with anyone who doesn't share your same exact beliefs. How boring is that? It's all very explainable now that you've started this whole LSD discussion. You are no doubt, delusional as a result of your usage of LSD.
You would be a great cult leader. Cult leaders can't stand anyone who they can't brain wash or who do not share their same beliefs. Why is it that if someone disagrees with you you think they are ingorant? I just can't fathom why you think you are so devine that you may call anyone who disagrees with you ingorant or narrow-minded. A 14 year old at that!!! You are 14 right? I have always been impressed by you and I am even more so now that you've managed to get rises out of so many respected people on this board at such a juvenille age and mentality.
Since you've decided to waste no more time on me, I'll oblige and do the same. I won't read anymore of your posts or reply to them. I suggest that everyone else on here do the same, especially if you don't agree with Thomas' ideas. Because if you don't agree with them, you are ignorant, so just accept that.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color = "crimson">Thomas Quinn wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]PieterMC wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color = "crimson">Thomas Quinn wrote: [/QUOTENAME]The narrow-minded people here are you two, Lisser and YV. I'm not going to waste any more breath on you. I've proven my point, and if you can't handle that, it only goes to show you are archconservatives deep down, not willing to accept anything regarless of evidence, because it doesn't fit in with your pretty pathetic image of the world.[/QUOTE]
We bow down before Thomas Quinn. He who knows all....[/QUOTE]
After spending several months researching this subject, fuck yes! More than you lot, apparently.[/QUOTE]
Caspie... Caspie... THere are always side effects. Weather u see them, or want to see them or not... Please consider what YV and Lisser (& co) say. The Moon has a dark side too, etc. Remember these words and look in the right and left, not only in the front. Thank you.
We bow down before Thomas Quinn. He who knows all....[/QUOTE]
After spending several months researching this subject, fuck yes! More than you lot, apparently.[/QUOTE]
Caspie... Caspie... THere are always side effects. Weather u see them, or want to see them or not... Please consider what YV and Lisser (& co) say. The Moon has a dark side too, etc. Remember these words and look in the right and left, not only in the front. Thank you.