[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Scream_for_reality wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]John S Stuart wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Just as I thought - it doesn't look like anyone wants to take me up on the offer - because most people are happy with their MP3 versions.[/QUOTE]
I have nothing to trade anymore. But could you upload the clear version of Modern times rock 'n'roll in mp3?[/QUOTE]
Scream,
I think John would only be too happy to share a lossless version of that recording, if someone else was willing to share something rare.
Seems reasonable to me.
Ian.
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I wish I had something of equal value because I would love to hear these.
I don't even have these mp3s. Could somebody post them...maybe? Thanks.
Repetition of earlier ideas - sorry.
Is there anything in particular you're after john?
fan filmed concert recordings?
Queen, solo...?
fan filmed concert recordings?
Queen, solo...?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]pootle1 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Is there anything in particular you're after john?
fan filmed concert recordings?
Queen, solo...?[/QUOTE]
Pootle1: I am looking for 'Face It Alone', and some of the other Queen studio demos which surfaced earlier this year.
I know that this may SEEM like a tall order, but, these tracks are currently ‘working the rounds’, and inevitably will be made publicly available sooner or later. I guess I am just too impatient to wait for that day to arrive.
So, I fail to see the point of sitting on these demos now, when in return, I am willing to upload FLAC versions of these sessions for everyone to share, while keeping the donor's promise of anonymity and exclusivity intact. For the donor, s/he would also benefit from the quality of the FLAC downloads.
From my view-point, it is a situation whereby everyone in Queenzone wins – but is there anyone in here willing to take that anonymous first step?
However, I must point out, that I do not wish to be viewed as a ‘bully’, and I do not wish to manipulate anyone into a situation where they feel either uncomfortable or coerced. Being honest, I am just trying to use a little leverage for selfish reasons, and I view that as just another part ‘of the game’. I would be extremely unhappy if this was misconstrued, and forced anyone to do anything against their will. At the end of the day, we are all just chasing a few songs – and that should be a fun experience – not emotional blackmail, and I hope that this ‘begging’ letter is read as the former, and not the latter.
fan filmed concert recordings?
Queen, solo...?[/QUOTE]
Pootle1: I am looking for 'Face It Alone', and some of the other Queen studio demos which surfaced earlier this year.
I know that this may SEEM like a tall order, but, these tracks are currently ‘working the rounds’, and inevitably will be made publicly available sooner or later. I guess I am just too impatient to wait for that day to arrive.
So, I fail to see the point of sitting on these demos now, when in return, I am willing to upload FLAC versions of these sessions for everyone to share, while keeping the donor's promise of anonymity and exclusivity intact. For the donor, s/he would also benefit from the quality of the FLAC downloads.
From my view-point, it is a situation whereby everyone in Queenzone wins – but is there anyone in here willing to take that anonymous first step?
However, I must point out, that I do not wish to be viewed as a ‘bully’, and I do not wish to manipulate anyone into a situation where they feel either uncomfortable or coerced. Being honest, I am just trying to use a little leverage for selfish reasons, and I view that as just another part ‘of the game’. I would be extremely unhappy if this was misconstrued, and forced anyone to do anything against their will. At the end of the day, we are all just chasing a few songs – and that should be a fun experience – not emotional blackmail, and I hope that this ‘begging’ letter is read as the former, and not the latter.
John,
I've been after those for years myself.
Seems like I get copies of other demos before most other folks (like headlong & delilah months before they appeared here - under threat of death if they ever did!!), but not face it alone!
Actually, I'm surprised you don't have them as I thought you had everything!! :)
For information purposes, would you mind listing the other studio demos that have surfaced this year please?
Thanks,
I've been after those for years myself.
Seems like I get copies of other demos before most other folks (like headlong & delilah months before they appeared here - under threat of death if they ever did!!), but not face it alone!
Actually, I'm surprised you don't have them as I thought you had everything!! :)
For information purposes, would you mind listing the other studio demos that have surfaced this year please?
Thanks,
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]John S Stuart wrote:
Pootle1: I am looking for 'Face It Alone', and some of the other Queen studio demos which surfaced earlier this year.
[/QUOTE]
I remember you saying, a while ago, that you didn´t have these songs, but after 8 months i thought that you would have it.
It´s uncomprehensive the Queen collectors behaviour!
If i were you, i would keep the BBC flac recordings for myself. They´re more valuable than "Face it Alone". Eventually the "Face it Alone" will be released on the box-sets, how about the BBC recordings?- I`m not so shure!!
Wasn´t "face it alone" recorded on a convention, or was leacked from the studio?- Probably the quality isn´t that good either.
But wait, there´s still hope. there´s a Queenzoner willing to share that demo:
http://www.queenzone.com/queenzone/forumnew/forum_topic_view.aspx?Q_FORUM_ID=12&Q_FORUM_NAME=Sharing+The+Music+-+Request&TOPIC_SUBJECT=Innuendo+Sessions+Assassin%2c+Face+it+alone&Q=792543&page=3
We just have to wait and see what happens!
Lately, this forum is full of great collectors, who have the most incredible gems, and without nobody asking them they say they want to share.
Then some guy says something it shouldn´t and....
the same thing happens again-"i won´t share anymore, and i don´t have to prove nothing to anybody". It´s allways the same thing, over and over again.
Why bother??
Take care
Pootle1: I am looking for 'Face It Alone', and some of the other Queen studio demos which surfaced earlier this year.
[/QUOTE]
I remember you saying, a while ago, that you didn´t have these songs, but after 8 months i thought that you would have it.
It´s uncomprehensive the Queen collectors behaviour!
If i were you, i would keep the BBC flac recordings for myself. They´re more valuable than "Face it Alone". Eventually the "Face it Alone" will be released on the box-sets, how about the BBC recordings?- I`m not so shure!!
Wasn´t "face it alone" recorded on a convention, or was leacked from the studio?- Probably the quality isn´t that good either.
But wait, there´s still hope. there´s a Queenzoner willing to share that demo:
http://www.queenzone.com/queenzone/forumnew/forum_topic_view.aspx?Q_FORUM_ID=12&Q_FORUM_NAME=Sharing+The+Music+-+Request&TOPIC_SUBJECT=Innuendo+Sessions+Assassin%2c+Face+it+alone&Q=792543&page=3
We just have to wait and see what happens!
Lately, this forum is full of great collectors, who have the most incredible gems, and without nobody asking them they say they want to share.
Then some guy says something it shouldn´t and....
the same thing happens again-"i won´t share anymore, and i don´t have to prove nothing to anybody". It´s allways the same thing, over and over again.
Why bother??
Take care
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]pootle1 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
Actually, I'm surprised you don't have them as I thought you had everything!! :)
For information purposes, would you mind listing the other studio demos that have surfaced this year please?
Thanks,[/QUOTE]
Pootle 1: I wish I did have everything, but unfortunately, I don't - I guess we are all human after all.
As to what else has been 'released', it seems that I am an embarrassment to the ‘established’ collecting world – because I am not afraid to publish what I think. I guess the view is that my ‘mouth is too big’, and that I can not keep a secret, thus making me a liability in ‘elite circles’. So it seems that I am ‘forbidden’ to discuss such material.
While I freely admit the charge, I do not see this as some sort of Judas-like betrayal, as after all I do not have copies of the tracks to share. In my mind, it is one thing to ‘betray’ what is available – while it is another, perhaps more ‘serious crime’ to betray a donor’s actual ‘property’.
First: The sad thing is that I feel like a used whore. All serious collectors eventually will. As we slowly release all our valuable treasures, little remains to swap with. Suddenly, a new batch of rarities hits ‘the market’, but because of previous personal generosity, one can no longer play in the current game.
When this current batch of rarities becomes common, another fresh batch of collectables will appear, and suddenly those collectors who are currently flavour of the month, will lose that prestige, as they too are relegated to the used whore status. It just seems so sad that no-one is willing is move in any direction, for what is, after all, (usually) the stolen property of Queen Productions.
Second: As I live in a democracy, I will not give up my right to publish what I see as free information. I have not signed the Official Secrets Act, nor do I see the discussion of a few Queen songs as a danger to any nation’s National Security. It seems to me that the Stalinist-Mafioso mentality of these collectors is almost akin to the breaking of religious vows or the Masonic oath. Why should we be ‘forbidden’ to discuss such material – and by whom? What do they have to gain – or lose by these discussions?
So, as a long-winded answer, I know excellent studio quality demos (not convention recordings) like ‘Victory’ and Roger Taylor/Freddie Mercury ‘Fun In Space’ tracks are being exchanged, but, you really need to be part of the club to have any chance of getting these.
Unfortunately, as I said above, because I am willing to talk about such things, I think that makes my admission null and void.
I think I will request these tracks over in the request forum, and see what happens from there!
Actually, I'm surprised you don't have them as I thought you had everything!! :)
For information purposes, would you mind listing the other studio demos that have surfaced this year please?
Thanks,[/QUOTE]
Pootle 1: I wish I did have everything, but unfortunately, I don't - I guess we are all human after all.
As to what else has been 'released', it seems that I am an embarrassment to the ‘established’ collecting world – because I am not afraid to publish what I think. I guess the view is that my ‘mouth is too big’, and that I can not keep a secret, thus making me a liability in ‘elite circles’. So it seems that I am ‘forbidden’ to discuss such material.
While I freely admit the charge, I do not see this as some sort of Judas-like betrayal, as after all I do not have copies of the tracks to share. In my mind, it is one thing to ‘betray’ what is available – while it is another, perhaps more ‘serious crime’ to betray a donor’s actual ‘property’.
First: The sad thing is that I feel like a used whore. All serious collectors eventually will. As we slowly release all our valuable treasures, little remains to swap with. Suddenly, a new batch of rarities hits ‘the market’, but because of previous personal generosity, one can no longer play in the current game.
When this current batch of rarities becomes common, another fresh batch of collectables will appear, and suddenly those collectors who are currently flavour of the month, will lose that prestige, as they too are relegated to the used whore status. It just seems so sad that no-one is willing is move in any direction, for what is, after all, (usually) the stolen property of Queen Productions.
Second: As I live in a democracy, I will not give up my right to publish what I see as free information. I have not signed the Official Secrets Act, nor do I see the discussion of a few Queen songs as a danger to any nation’s National Security. It seems to me that the Stalinist-Mafioso mentality of these collectors is almost akin to the breaking of religious vows or the Masonic oath. Why should we be ‘forbidden’ to discuss such material – and by whom? What do they have to gain – or lose by these discussions?
So, as a long-winded answer, I know excellent studio quality demos (not convention recordings) like ‘Victory’ and Roger Taylor/Freddie Mercury ‘Fun In Space’ tracks are being exchanged, but, you really need to be part of the club to have any chance of getting these.
Unfortunately, as I said above, because I am willing to talk about such things, I think that makes my admission null and void.
I think I will request these tracks over in the request forum, and see what happens from there!
Double post - sorry.
Thanks for the little bit of information John.
I agree with you. Virtually all my rarities have been exhausted over the last 8 years and I don't even get info anymore on what's out there!
The people I used to trade with have all long gone, and I'm an outsider these days.
Occasioanlly something good crops up and I then I feel dirty because some people on here would call me an elite trader for not sharing it...
I agree with you. Virtually all my rarities have been exhausted over the last 8 years and I don't even get info anymore on what's out there!
The people I used to trade with have all long gone, and I'm an outsider these days.
Occasioanlly something good crops up and I then I feel dirty because some people on here would call me an elite trader for not sharing it...
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]pootle1 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Thanks for the little bit of information John.
I agree with you. Virtually all my rarities have been exhausted over the last 8 years and I don't even get info anymore on what's out there!
The people I used to trade with have all long gone, and I'm an outsider these days.
Occasioanlly something good crops up and I then I feel dirty because some people on here would call me an elite trader for not sharing it...
[/QUOTE]
Why not drop me a private mail? It is in my profile.
I agree with you. Virtually all my rarities have been exhausted over the last 8 years and I don't even get info anymore on what's out there!
The people I used to trade with have all long gone, and I'm an outsider these days.
Occasioanlly something good crops up and I then I feel dirty because some people on here would call me an elite trader for not sharing it...
[/QUOTE]
Why not drop me a private mail? It is in my profile.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]John S Stuart wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]pootle1 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
Actually, I'm surprised you don't have them as I thought you had everything!! :)
For information purposes, would you mind listing the other studio demos that have surfaced this year please?
Thanks,[/QUOTE]
Pootle 1: I wish I did have everything, but unfortunately, I don't - I guess we are all human after all.
As to what else has been 'released', it seems that I am an embarrassment to the ‘established’ collecting world – because I am not afraid to publish what I think. I guess the view is that my ‘mouth is too big’, and that I can not keep a secret, thus making me a liability in ‘elite circles’. So it seems that I am ‘forbidden’ to discuss such material.
While I freely admit the charge, I do not see this as some sort of Judas-like betrayal, as after all I do not have copies of the tracks to share. In my mind, it is one thing to ‘betray’ what is available – while it is another, perhaps more ‘serious crime’ to betray a donor’s actual ‘property’.
First: The sad thing is that I feel like a used whore. All serious collectors eventually will. As we slowly release all our valuable treasures, little remains to swap with. Suddenly, a new batch of rarities hits ‘the market’, but because of previous personal generosity, one can no longer play in the current game.
When this current batch of rarities becomes common, another fresh batch of collectables will appear, and suddenly those collectors who are currently flavour of the month, will lose that prestige, as they too are relegated to the used whore status. It just seems so sad that no-one is willing is move in any direction, for what is, after all, (usually) the stolen property of Queen Productions.
Second: As I live in a democracy, I will not give up my right to publish what I see as free information. I have not signed the Official Secrets Act, nor do I see the discussion of a few Queen songs as a danger to any nation’s National Security. It seems to me that the Stalinist-Mafioso mentality of these collectors is almost akin to the breaking of religious vows or the Masonic oath. Why should we be ‘forbidden’ to discuss such material – and by whom? What do they have to gain – or lose by these discussions?
So, as a long-winded answer, I know excellent studio quality demos (not convention recordings) like ‘Victory’ and Roger Taylor/Freddie Mercury ‘Fun In Space’ tracks are being exchanged, but, you really need to be part of the club to have any chance of getting these.
Unfortunately, as I said above, because I am willing to talk about such things, I think that makes my admission null and void.
I think I will request these tracks over in the request forum, and see what happens from there!
[/QUOTE]
Good post John, but I think your plea will fall on deaf ears. Maybe next year.
Actually, I'm surprised you don't have them as I thought you had everything!! :)
For information purposes, would you mind listing the other studio demos that have surfaced this year please?
Thanks,[/QUOTE]
Pootle 1: I wish I did have everything, but unfortunately, I don't - I guess we are all human after all.
As to what else has been 'released', it seems that I am an embarrassment to the ‘established’ collecting world – because I am not afraid to publish what I think. I guess the view is that my ‘mouth is too big’, and that I can not keep a secret, thus making me a liability in ‘elite circles’. So it seems that I am ‘forbidden’ to discuss such material.
While I freely admit the charge, I do not see this as some sort of Judas-like betrayal, as after all I do not have copies of the tracks to share. In my mind, it is one thing to ‘betray’ what is available – while it is another, perhaps more ‘serious crime’ to betray a donor’s actual ‘property’.
First: The sad thing is that I feel like a used whore. All serious collectors eventually will. As we slowly release all our valuable treasures, little remains to swap with. Suddenly, a new batch of rarities hits ‘the market’, but because of previous personal generosity, one can no longer play in the current game.
When this current batch of rarities becomes common, another fresh batch of collectables will appear, and suddenly those collectors who are currently flavour of the month, will lose that prestige, as they too are relegated to the used whore status. It just seems so sad that no-one is willing is move in any direction, for what is, after all, (usually) the stolen property of Queen Productions.
Second: As I live in a democracy, I will not give up my right to publish what I see as free information. I have not signed the Official Secrets Act, nor do I see the discussion of a few Queen songs as a danger to any nation’s National Security. It seems to me that the Stalinist-Mafioso mentality of these collectors is almost akin to the breaking of religious vows or the Masonic oath. Why should we be ‘forbidden’ to discuss such material – and by whom? What do they have to gain – or lose by these discussions?
So, as a long-winded answer, I know excellent studio quality demos (not convention recordings) like ‘Victory’ and Roger Taylor/Freddie Mercury ‘Fun In Space’ tracks are being exchanged, but, you really need to be part of the club to have any chance of getting these.
Unfortunately, as I said above, because I am willing to talk about such things, I think that makes my admission null and void.
I think I will request these tracks over in the request forum, and see what happens from there!
[/QUOTE]
Good post John, but I think your plea will fall on deaf ears. Maybe next year.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]John S Stuart wrote: [/QUOTENAME]However, if someone was to be actually kind enough to reciprocate my past generosity, then I promise, I will upload these BBC master-tape sessions in return. I can not say fairer than that – can I?[/QUOTE]
You know exactly who the key people are. Many are members here, and have read this topic. They'll never share anything, because
it's collecting suicide. Like you said, the only time something interesting gets posted is when it has made its rounds in the
trading circles and can't be traded anymore. But the posting is done by bottom-end collectors, never the long-time collectors
who first got the material.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]John S Stuart wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]pootle1 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Thanks for the little bit of information John.
I agree with you. Virtually all my rarities have been exhausted over the last 8 years and I don't even get info anymore on what's out there!
The people I used to trade with have all long gone, and I'm an outsider these days.
Occasioanlly something good crops up and I then I feel dirty because some people on here would call me an elite trader for not sharing it...
[/QUOTE]
Why not drop me a private mail? It is in my profile.[/QUOTE]
Me too. I'm in the same position as you. We both probably have a couple rarities the other doesn't have, so drop me a line.
You know exactly who the key people are. Many are members here, and have read this topic. They'll never share anything, because
it's collecting suicide. Like you said, the only time something interesting gets posted is when it has made its rounds in the
trading circles and can't be traded anymore. But the posting is done by bottom-end collectors, never the long-time collectors
who first got the material.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]John S Stuart wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]pootle1 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Thanks for the little bit of information John.
I agree with you. Virtually all my rarities have been exhausted over the last 8 years and I don't even get info anymore on what's out there!
The people I used to trade with have all long gone, and I'm an outsider these days.
Occasioanlly something good crops up and I then I feel dirty because some people on here would call me an elite trader for not sharing it...
[/QUOTE]
Why not drop me a private mail? It is in my profile.[/QUOTE]
Me too. I'm in the same position as you. We both probably have a couple rarities the other doesn't have, so drop me a line.
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