[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]MDNA wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Sir GH you are NOT ALONE.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the great post. Very, very, glad to have your support.
But I'm afraid you'll still fly far over the heads of the majority here. Most people just don't have a clue, even though we're spood-feeding them with every little detail.
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I was just about to share some shows(I got more than 200 either FL AC and mp3) but with all this crap here I really don't feel like doing it I'm afraid,sorry.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]L-R-TIGER1994 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I was just about to share some shows(I got more than 200 either FL AC and mp3) but with all this crap here I really don't feel like doing it I'm afraid,sorry.[/QUOTE]
lol - 'all this crap'?
What you just said - THAT's a load of crap!
lol - 'all this crap'?
What you just said - THAT's a load of crap!
Really?ok,if anyone wants a concert,just mail me and I'll send it,anyone you like and you'll see I have it,for the rest,I don't care what people say.
"What is this "trader mentality" you're talking about? You make it sound like trading a recording is a bad thing"
I described Bob's actions over at TDD: he downloaded, hit and ran, saw that people had asked for Earl's Court, which he claims he has, but he didn't share it. He advertised that he has a copy of Rainbow, but claimed he checked the regulations of the forum and discovered that he was not allowed to post an "official" release. Do you expect anyone to believe he didn't know that? Impossible. It looks to me like he was advertising his "stash" for snail mail trades, rather than sharing files, that he claims he has, in TTD, where he had just finished downloading 16 GBs.
That's my point.
Try to get THAT through your thick skull.
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"Remember this, for you to have access to Queen bootlegs, someone recorded them, they where either traded as tapes or released by a bootleg label, people collected them and preserved them, then someone transferd them to digital format, edited and often enhanced it and made it available to you"
Right. People DID record them, but most likely YOU and BOB did not record them. You got them because these people made them available to you. For free.
But Bob is not doing that. Not here, because he claims people here degrade the quality. Well, TTDs standards call for lossless formats only. Is Bob sharing there? NOPE. Even after downloading 16 GBs, and ignoring requests to post a file he claims he has.
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"From my point of view you how the Queen trading and collecting comunity a huge big thanks. I know I do"
What I have been able to secure so far, and it is not much, has come from CASUAL fans, who share their music. Not hard core collectors and traders who stash it. That's my experience.
And I am grateful to people who share their files at TTD, and seed at least until my ration is more than 1:1
Your boy Bob hit and ran. And he has the audacity to claim that Queenzoners only leech and not seed.
I described Bob's actions over at TDD: he downloaded, hit and ran, saw that people had asked for Earl's Court, which he claims he has, but he didn't share it. He advertised that he has a copy of Rainbow, but claimed he checked the regulations of the forum and discovered that he was not allowed to post an "official" release. Do you expect anyone to believe he didn't know that? Impossible. It looks to me like he was advertising his "stash" for snail mail trades, rather than sharing files, that he claims he has, in TTD, where he had just finished downloading 16 GBs.
That's my point.
Try to get THAT through your thick skull.
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"Remember this, for you to have access to Queen bootlegs, someone recorded them, they where either traded as tapes or released by a bootleg label, people collected them and preserved them, then someone transferd them to digital format, edited and often enhanced it and made it available to you"
Right. People DID record them, but most likely YOU and BOB did not record them. You got them because these people made them available to you. For free.
But Bob is not doing that. Not here, because he claims people here degrade the quality. Well, TTDs standards call for lossless formats only. Is Bob sharing there? NOPE. Even after downloading 16 GBs, and ignoring requests to post a file he claims he has.
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"From my point of view you how the Queen trading and collecting comunity a huge big thanks. I know I do"
What I have been able to secure so far, and it is not much, has come from CASUAL fans, who share their music. Not hard core collectors and traders who stash it. That's my experience.
And I am grateful to people who share their files at TTD, and seed at least until my ration is more than 1:1
Your boy Bob hit and ran. And he has the audacity to claim that Queenzoners only leech and not seed.
To tgunn2760:
I really don't give a shit what you think. You've made it your personal mission to take time out of your day to attack me at a forum, and you're really not getting anywhere with it. Your monitoring of my activities at TTD along with your need to report them here is borderline stalking.
Soon enough you'll be eating your words when I seed plenty of recordings at TTD. You can keep throwing the insults all you want. Time will tell what happens.
I really don't give a shit what you think. You've made it your personal mission to take time out of your day to attack me at a forum, and you're really not getting anywhere with it. Your monitoring of my activities at TTD along with your need to report them here is borderline stalking.
Soon enough you'll be eating your words when I seed plenty of recordings at TTD. You can keep throwing the insults all you want. Time will tell what happens.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]tgunn2760 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
What I have been able to secure so far, and it is not much, has come from CASUAL fans, who share their music. Not hard core collectors and traders who stash it. That's my experience.
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I couldn´t say it better!
The casual fans are the ones who share because they enjoy to share. They don´t expect nothing in return!
The last Queen+Paul Rodgers was a great example, and i´m really thankfull for ALL the uploadings.
I live im Portugal, and Queen never toured this land with Freddie, so it´s obvious that we don´t have access to as many material as we would like.
Now, if you live in England, USA, Holand; Germany, Japan, you have access to almost everything Queen ever did!
I understand the discussion about mp3 and i think it´s reasonable to keep the Best Quality recording, but please don´t tell me that great collectors don´t share because they´re afraid of mp3!!
They don´t share simply because they don´t want to!!- It´s not in their blood and i respect it!
What i can´t understand is the fact that so many fans upload reports from around the world, and other TV stuff that even big collcetors don´t have, and still they guive us the finger!!
Take care
What I have been able to secure so far, and it is not much, has come from CASUAL fans, who share their music. Not hard core collectors and traders who stash it. That's my experience.
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I couldn´t say it better!
The casual fans are the ones who share because they enjoy to share. They don´t expect nothing in return!
The last Queen+Paul Rodgers was a great example, and i´m really thankfull for ALL the uploadings.
I live im Portugal, and Queen never toured this land with Freddie, so it´s obvious that we don´t have access to as many material as we would like.
Now, if you live in England, USA, Holand; Germany, Japan, you have access to almost everything Queen ever did!
I understand the discussion about mp3 and i think it´s reasonable to keep the Best Quality recording, but please don´t tell me that great collectors don´t share because they´re afraid of mp3!!
They don´t share simply because they don´t want to!!- It´s not in their blood and i respect it!
What i can´t understand is the fact that so many fans upload reports from around the world, and other TV stuff that even big collcetors don´t have, and still they guive us the finger!!
Take care
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Bobby_brown wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I understand the discussion about mp3 and i think it´s reasonable to keep the Best Quality recording, but please don´t tell me that great collectors don´t share because they´re afraid of mp3!!
They don´t share simply because they don´t want to!!- It´s not in their blood and i respect it![/QUOTE]
Don't let Mr Scully speak for the rest of us. I respect his honesty, but let's be aware that not all collectors think alike.
The last person who knows what goes on in a collector's mind and dealings is a non-collector, like you Bobby Brown, so don't put your two cents into a topic where you know nothing at all. All you know how to do is click and download. You can enjoy those mp3s from the Paris 79 DVD-rip for the umpteenth time, and we'll keep on trying to get recordings of other 79 shows you've never even heard of. But again, what am I talking about? These new recordings just drop down from the sky one day and magically end up on rapidshare for ignorant and ungrateful people like you to download.
They don´t share simply because they don´t want to!!- It´s not in their blood and i respect it![/QUOTE]
Don't let Mr Scully speak for the rest of us. I respect his honesty, but let's be aware that not all collectors think alike.
The last person who knows what goes on in a collector's mind and dealings is a non-collector, like you Bobby Brown, so don't put your two cents into a topic where you know nothing at all. All you know how to do is click and download. You can enjoy those mp3s from the Paris 79 DVD-rip for the umpteenth time, and we'll keep on trying to get recordings of other 79 shows you've never even heard of. But again, what am I talking about? These new recordings just drop down from the sky one day and magically end up on rapidshare for ignorant and ungrateful people like you to download.
"I really don't give a shit what you think. You've made it your personal mission to take time out of your day to attack me at a forum, and you're really not getting anywhere with it. Your monitoring of my activities at TTD along with your need to report them here is borderline stalking."
You seem to have a very selective memory Bob. You and Lenin started this. I am merely retaliating to your unprovoked attacks.
The line about borderline stalking is precious Bob, thank you for making me chuckle. Maybe you should take a valium, you sound borderline hysterical.
It was sheer coincidence that I found your name in TTD. I had joined a few days earlier, and when you made some claims in this forum about your activities there, I used your stats to refute your claims. THAT'S ALL.
And I am not against traders and collectors per se. I have no issue with people collecting Queen files, or trading them. I do have an issue with traders and collectors:
A. asking for a return for something they got for free;
B. asking for a return for something from casual Queen fans who don't have anything to trade.
If there are rare items out there and collectors want to trade each other for them, I see no probem. But the things most casual fans ask for, are widely available.
Another thing about you that irritates me and others, is that you are trying to change this forum to suit your desires. TTD allows only lossless files. This forum does not. You belong to both, so you can have the best of both worlds. Queenzoners do not go to TTD and ask them to change their policy. But you come here and expect to change this one. And on top of that, you are trying to tell people what they can and cannot do with their files. No matter how good your intentions are, or how good YOU THINK your intentions are, people will resent your attitude because no one likes to be told what to do.
"Soon enough you'll be eating your words when I seed plenty of recordings at TTD. You can keep throwing the insults all you want. Time will tell what happens."
Yes, time will tell. But based on what I have seen from you this far, I really doubt that you will. I think you love your collection far too much to share it with anyone.
Not that I care personally. I have said before that I do not care for bootleg audio recordings,lossy or lossless. No matter how rare they are.
On a final note, now that some sharing is taking place here, I hope that the people who are now downloading some files will make them available when others come to this forum and request them.
You seem to have a very selective memory Bob. You and Lenin started this. I am merely retaliating to your unprovoked attacks.
The line about borderline stalking is precious Bob, thank you for making me chuckle. Maybe you should take a valium, you sound borderline hysterical.
It was sheer coincidence that I found your name in TTD. I had joined a few days earlier, and when you made some claims in this forum about your activities there, I used your stats to refute your claims. THAT'S ALL.
And I am not against traders and collectors per se. I have no issue with people collecting Queen files, or trading them. I do have an issue with traders and collectors:
A. asking for a return for something they got for free;
B. asking for a return for something from casual Queen fans who don't have anything to trade.
If there are rare items out there and collectors want to trade each other for them, I see no probem. But the things most casual fans ask for, are widely available.
Another thing about you that irritates me and others, is that you are trying to change this forum to suit your desires. TTD allows only lossless files. This forum does not. You belong to both, so you can have the best of both worlds. Queenzoners do not go to TTD and ask them to change their policy. But you come here and expect to change this one. And on top of that, you are trying to tell people what they can and cannot do with their files. No matter how good your intentions are, or how good YOU THINK your intentions are, people will resent your attitude because no one likes to be told what to do.
"Soon enough you'll be eating your words when I seed plenty of recordings at TTD. You can keep throwing the insults all you want. Time will tell what happens."
Yes, time will tell. But based on what I have seen from you this far, I really doubt that you will. I think you love your collection far too much to share it with anyone.
Not that I care personally. I have said before that I do not care for bootleg audio recordings,lossy or lossless. No matter how rare they are.
On a final note, now that some sharing is taking place here, I hope that the people who are now downloading some files will make them available when others come to this forum and request them.
"I really don't give a shit what you think. You've made it your personal mission to take time out of your day to attack me at a forum, and you're really not getting anywhere with it. Your monitoring of my activities at TTD along with your need to report them here is borderline stalking."
You seem to have a very selective memory Bob. You and Lenin started this. I am merely retaliating to your unprovoked attacks.
The line about borderline stalking is precious Bob, thank you for making me chuckle. Maybe you should take a valium, you sound borderline hysterical.
It was sheer coincidence that I found your name in TTD. I had joined a few days earlier, and when you made some claims in this forum about your activities there, I used your stats to refute your claims. THAT'S ALL.
And I am not against traders and collectors per se. I have no issue with people collecting Queen files, or trading them. I do have an issue with traders and collectors:
A. asking for a return for something they got for free;
B. asking for a return for something from casual Queen fans who don't have anything to trade.
If there are rare items out there and collectors want to trade each other for them, I see no probem. But the things most casual fans ask for, are widely available.
Another thing about you that irritates me and others, is that you are trying to change this forum to suit your desires. TTD allows only lossless files. This forum does not. You belong to both, so you can have the best of both worlds. Queenzoners do not go to TTD and ask them to change their policy. But you come here and expect to change this one. And on top of that, you are trying to tell people what they can and cannot do with their files. No matter how good your intentions are, or how good YOU THINK your intentions are, people will resent your attitude because no one likes to be told what to do.
"Soon enough you'll be eating your words when I seed plenty of recordings at TTD. You can keep throwing the insults all you want. Time will tell what happens."
Yes, time will tell. But based on what I have seen from you this far, I really doubt that you will. I think you love your collection far too much to share it with anyone.
Not that I care personally. I have said before that I do not care for bootleg audio recordings,lossy or lossless. No matter how rare they are.
On a final note, now that some sharing is taking place here, I hope that the people who are now downloading some files will make them available when others come to this forum and request them.
You seem to have a very selective memory Bob. You and Lenin started this. I am merely retaliating to your unprovoked attacks.
The line about borderline stalking is precious Bob, thank you for making me chuckle. Maybe you should take a valium, you sound borderline hysterical.
It was sheer coincidence that I found your name in TTD. I had joined a few days earlier, and when you made some claims in this forum about your activities there, I used your stats to refute your claims. THAT'S ALL.
And I am not against traders and collectors per se. I have no issue with people collecting Queen files, or trading them. I do have an issue with traders and collectors:
A. asking for a return for something they got for free;
B. asking for a return for something from casual Queen fans who don't have anything to trade.
If there are rare items out there and collectors want to trade each other for them, I see no probem. But the things most casual fans ask for, are widely available.
Another thing about you that irritates me and others, is that you are trying to change this forum to suit your desires. TTD allows only lossless files. This forum does not. You belong to both, so you can have the best of both worlds. Queenzoners do not go to TTD and ask them to change their policy. But you come here and expect to change this one. And on top of that, you are trying to tell people what they can and cannot do with their files. No matter how good your intentions are, or how good YOU THINK your intentions are, people will resent your attitude because no one likes to be told what to do.
"Soon enough you'll be eating your words when I seed plenty of recordings at TTD. You can keep throwing the insults all you want. Time will tell what happens."
Yes, time will tell. But based on what I have seen from you this far, I really doubt that you will. I think you love your collection far too much to share it with anyone.
Not that I care personally. I have said before that I do not care for bootleg audio recordings,lossy or lossless. No matter how rare they are.
On a final note, now that some sharing is taking place here, I hope that the people who are now downloading some files will make them available when others come to this forum and request them.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]tgunn2760 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Yes, time will tell. But based on what I have seen from you this far, I really doubt that you will. I think you love your collection far too much to share it with anyone.[/QUOTE]
If you'd like to check out the recent share of the second generation Vienna 78 recording, allow me to be the first to prove you wrong.
I don't want to waste any more time on you. For someone who isn't that interested in bootlegs, you surely are opinionated, and might I say, drastically wrong the majority of the time. If you're not a collector, then you have no clue about the way things work in the collecting world - even though I have outlined everything perfectly in a few topics on this forum. Mind your own business, please.
If you want to download anything that's shared, then feel free to do so. Just keep in mind that if it wasn't for the person doing the sharing, the recording wouldn't be available in the first place, so respecting the conditions as laid out by the sharer is saying "thank you".
If you'd like to check out the recent share of the second generation Vienna 78 recording, allow me to be the first to prove you wrong.
I don't want to waste any more time on you. For someone who isn't that interested in bootlegs, you surely are opinionated, and might I say, drastically wrong the majority of the time. If you're not a collector, then you have no clue about the way things work in the collecting world - even though I have outlined everything perfectly in a few topics on this forum. Mind your own business, please.
If you want to download anything that's shared, then feel free to do so. Just keep in mind that if it wasn't for the person doing the sharing, the recording wouldn't be available in the first place, so respecting the conditions as laid out by the sharer is saying "thank you".
You are right Bob, I don't know how things work in the trading world. Others made the same point, that the "rules and regulations" were there, they didn't make them, they are simply playing by them the way they found them etc. My opinion is, just because it was so, doesn't make it right.
As for voicing my opinion, it is my right to do so, and I will continue to express it. I don't have anything personal against you, I don't KNOW you at all.
I also admit that you have proven me wrong, so far, but after all this nastiness I see that the forum is now functioning in the manner it should have been functioning in the first place.
Once again, I do not care for audio bootlegs, so it's not like I got into this argument in order to get you all to share these for my benefit. And I wouldn't know a rare Queen recording if you beat me over the head with it.
In case you or anyone thinks I may be downloading some of these, my IP address is 65.95.232.30, and the server IP address is 64.230.197.203, Bell Sympatico.
I came to Queenzone looking for two concert videos only, I may later discover that I like others: the two I was looking for are Earl's Court, and a better quality of Houston if there is one available. When and if they are posted, I will certainly download them, and will not forget to write "thank you".
As for voicing my opinion, it is my right to do so, and I will continue to express it. I don't have anything personal against you, I don't KNOW you at all.
I also admit that you have proven me wrong, so far, but after all this nastiness I see that the forum is now functioning in the manner it should have been functioning in the first place.
Once again, I do not care for audio bootlegs, so it's not like I got into this argument in order to get you all to share these for my benefit. And I wouldn't know a rare Queen recording if you beat me over the head with it.
In case you or anyone thinks I may be downloading some of these, my IP address is 65.95.232.30, and the server IP address is 64.230.197.203, Bell Sympatico.
I came to Queenzone looking for two concert videos only, I may later discover that I like others: the two I was looking for are Earl's Court, and a better quality of Houston if there is one available. When and if they are posted, I will certainly download them, and will not forget to write "thank you".
Well, I'm glad we're on better terms then.
The Earls Court DVD will come. I have a great video source, but I still need a better audio source. When the better audio source comes, I'll synch it to the video, fix the repeat during the RnR medley, and then share it here via BitTorrent.
Just be patient. It will come! I'm looking forward to it as much as you are.
The Earls Court DVD will come. I have a great video source, but I still need a better audio source. When the better audio source comes, I'll synch it to the video, fix the repeat during the RnR medley, and then share it here via BitTorrent.
Just be patient. It will come! I'm looking forward to it as much as you are.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> drop down from the sky one day and magically end up on rapidshare for ignorant and ungrateful people like you to download.
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For a guy who declares that spends months negotiating a simple trade (let me say it again- TRADE), this is a very ironic answer to my reply!
My words weren´t directed to you in particular, but for some reason you felt offended.
Next time, try to search for better words to express your feelings without trying to offend other people. I try not to be disrespectfull to anyone, and i would like to have the same treatment.
I understand your reaction, because you were being attacked in various topics and you just lost it, but i don´t deserve to be call those names, O.K?
Of course i only click and download, did i ever said i´m a great uploader?
I already explained that to Don Geraldo, and according to your reaction to me, you remember that discussion!
But i try to be totally honest. If a collector says he doesn´t share, it´s up to you if you believe it or not!- I mean, there are people saying they don´t share because of Greg Brooks!!!!
But even if i don´t upload (i only spend money collecting official items), i think i can point what i think it´s bad behaviour from even the great collectors.
Andy has been sharing his collection to everybody (and boy, what a collection!), but i don´t doubt this:
1- Even big collectors may not have some of the items he´s sharing;
2- If he asks for a real rare gem (like "Face it alone"-just an example), i´m certain that no one will share it - they will probably trade it!!
3- He has lost his negotiation power, if he wants to trade in the future;
This is why i say what i say.
And yes, i´m gratefull for your recent uploads too, so thanks for that. Keep´em coming!!
Take care
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For a guy who declares that spends months negotiating a simple trade (let me say it again- TRADE), this is a very ironic answer to my reply!
My words weren´t directed to you in particular, but for some reason you felt offended.
Next time, try to search for better words to express your feelings without trying to offend other people. I try not to be disrespectfull to anyone, and i would like to have the same treatment.
I understand your reaction, because you were being attacked in various topics and you just lost it, but i don´t deserve to be call those names, O.K?
Of course i only click and download, did i ever said i´m a great uploader?
I already explained that to Don Geraldo, and according to your reaction to me, you remember that discussion!
But i try to be totally honest. If a collector says he doesn´t share, it´s up to you if you believe it or not!- I mean, there are people saying they don´t share because of Greg Brooks!!!!
But even if i don´t upload (i only spend money collecting official items), i think i can point what i think it´s bad behaviour from even the great collectors.
Andy has been sharing his collection to everybody (and boy, what a collection!), but i don´t doubt this:
1- Even big collectors may not have some of the items he´s sharing;
2- If he asks for a real rare gem (like "Face it alone"-just an example), i´m certain that no one will share it - they will probably trade it!!
3- He has lost his negotiation power, if he wants to trade in the future;
This is why i say what i say.
And yes, i´m gratefull for your recent uploads too, so thanks for that. Keep´em coming!!
Take care
I think the flurry of activity of the last couple of days is a pretty good indication that if people share what they have freely, others are much more likely to follow suit.
I noticed a thread in TTD where someone uploaded a Dire Straits DVD. A downloader then said that he had another, and asked if people wanted his as well. And then another offered his, and there are now three or four Dire Straits DVDs available on TTD.
One can also upload some of his rare items on QZ, and in the same thread ask if someone has some of the files he's looking for. I'm sure if the downloaders have one or more, they would be happy to share them.
I noticed a thread in TTD where someone uploaded a Dire Straits DVD. A downloader then said that he had another, and asked if people wanted his as well. And then another offered his, and there are now three or four Dire Straits DVDs available on TTD.
One can also upload some of his rare items on QZ, and in the same thread ask if someone has some of the files he's looking for. I'm sure if the downloaders have one or more, they would be happy to share them.