I, personally, know I would not.
And once again I refer to my words in the RT threat. The one where I mentioned the filosophie as based on my experiences with Tool and Fran Zappa forums. Which was not about collecting basically, but about improving the overal quality of this website.
I'm interested in your opinion on THAT, Barb! ;-)
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Mr. Scully wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Bob, I don't agree with you. You're basically saying that if you shared your recordings on QueenZone, Led Zep collectors won't trade with you. That's IMHO... not true at all, if I say it politely.[/QUOTE]
Noooo... that's not what I meant! What I'm saying is that these Zeppelin/Who etc collectors won't trade with any Queen fan because they are under the impression that their lossless recording will end up lossy here. It's got nothing to do with me personally. It's a mentality that is attributed to Queen collectors in general.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Nummer2 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]If there was a FLAC only policy on QZ, I doubt I would have more than 10 or 20 concerts yet – just because there would much less shares – but thanks to MP3 I have a lot more.[/QUOTE]
I disagree. Right now, the majority of people here see mp3 as the best format. If we had a "lossless only" policy, people would think FLAC as the best format. The amount of sharing would be about the same; only the mentality and quality of shares would be different.
[QUOTE]And: It's easier to change your own ways, not QZ.[/QUOTE]
But you must understand... they're not "my" ways. It's other people who have these quality standards that we must adhere to. If I (and the rest of us) don't play by their rules, there is no chance of them trading their rare Queen recordings with us. Yes, QZ has been the place for you to get your concert recordings, and of course that's great! But consider this: There are only 2 recordings from the US 76 tour commonly available at the moment. If this website had a "lossless only" policy, I 100% guarantee you, that number would be at least 3 right now. Wouldn't you be interested in knowing if they changed up the setlist again in early 76, like they did at the Milwaukee show with Hangman and Modern Times Rock 'n' Roll? If this website banned mp3s, and the mentality shifted from lossy to lossless, I could send that collector an email to show him how things have changed, and maybe he would finally change his mind too. But these are things that non-collectors (and even some Queen collectors) simply don't understand.
And besides... when throughout history has "adhering the wants of the majority" done anyone any good? It's always the outspoken voice in the minority that has prompted any kind of decent change. I'm thinking and speaking in everyone's best interests, and many people are cutting me to shreds as if I'm against them. Frank39 made the Don Quixote reference, and I see where he's coming from!
Noooo... that's not what I meant! What I'm saying is that these Zeppelin/Who etc collectors won't trade with any Queen fan because they are under the impression that their lossless recording will end up lossy here. It's got nothing to do with me personally. It's a mentality that is attributed to Queen collectors in general.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Nummer2 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]If there was a FLAC only policy on QZ, I doubt I would have more than 10 or 20 concerts yet – just because there would much less shares – but thanks to MP3 I have a lot more.[/QUOTE]
I disagree. Right now, the majority of people here see mp3 as the best format. If we had a "lossless only" policy, people would think FLAC as the best format. The amount of sharing would be about the same; only the mentality and quality of shares would be different.
[QUOTE]And: It's easier to change your own ways, not QZ.[/QUOTE]
But you must understand... they're not "my" ways. It's other people who have these quality standards that we must adhere to. If I (and the rest of us) don't play by their rules, there is no chance of them trading their rare Queen recordings with us. Yes, QZ has been the place for you to get your concert recordings, and of course that's great! But consider this: There are only 2 recordings from the US 76 tour commonly available at the moment. If this website had a "lossless only" policy, I 100% guarantee you, that number would be at least 3 right now. Wouldn't you be interested in knowing if they changed up the setlist again in early 76, like they did at the Milwaukee show with Hangman and Modern Times Rock 'n' Roll? If this website banned mp3s, and the mentality shifted from lossy to lossless, I could send that collector an email to show him how things have changed, and maybe he would finally change his mind too. But these are things that non-collectors (and even some Queen collectors) simply don't understand.
And besides... when throughout history has "adhering the wants of the majority" done anyone any good? It's always the outspoken voice in the minority that has prompted any kind of decent change. I'm thinking and speaking in everyone's best interests, and many people are cutting me to shreds as if I'm against them. Frank39 made the Don Quixote reference, and I see where he's coming from!
Your post in the RT thread, Jeroen:
"Agreed with barb. But we have been here before there was any sharing section on Queenzone.
In the beginning people shared shome MP3's, which was fine.
But over time it has become pretty clear what the side-effects are of mp3's. People even started new websites for sharing Queen to keep everything seperated. Contramovement is that the amount of lossy formates being shared in here has gone up.
Logically.
Similar sites to Queenzone all have taken action on this. (Eg, I visit some Tool, Zappa sites for instance which all did an active boycot on mp3. Whenever I am on those websites I realy feel sorry for Queenzone. 'We' don't give a shit about quality - while on those other sites quality is their strong point - which DEFINATELY also shows, as a result, in the quality of people that visit and the quality of their discussions!!
ALSO as a result, expecially on that Tool website logically as they are still touring actively, is that more people appreciate bootlegs, take better care of the preservation of them AND get more motivated to create them themselves AND help eachother actively in making sure everybody comes up with the best possible results from a bootleg recording!!
In a way that website has become more like a taping-collective (HIGH QUALITY taping-collective!) more then a sharing-the-music-community.
(Though I have to admit that in general Tool and Frank Zappa attract a much much more 'intellectual' audience to begin with... They are having the exact same discussions -the serious ones- as we have, but their is SUCH a significant difference in how they approach the exact same problems. Problems with trading, with sharing, the NOT-sharing of specific items (!)... everything we in here have discussions about as well)
Actually the BAND-wensites that share mp3's are very very few. Websites that focus on a particular band and their collectors all have gone over to torrents, or lossless anyway.
If you want to share mp3's - leave them to the p2p sharing programms where every 'moderate' musicfan can download 'moderate' quality stuff by every artist.
But QZ is a specialised BAND-website, which you'd expect to have a higher standard for appreciation of the band.
Solution is very easy: do as so many websites have done before us, including the more serious trading-websites like Dime: DON'T ALLOW MP3 TO BE SHARED. It should be like this: If you want to share/download mp3 you go somewhere else. If you are looking for QUALITY you come to Queenzone.
It's a snowballing mentality thing.
If all of us cared about quality more it would surely benefit the quality of the whole website!"
Here is my opinion:
If there were such a Queen website I would surely visit there and I would like be a part of it. I registered to Pieter's trader forum but not much is happening there at the moment. If there were a chance to have a forum with a civilized discussion and people working together instead of bitching and fighting I would be thrilled to be there.
But Queenzone is not that way. The history of Queenzone sharing comes from the mp3 servers and they were meant to distribute as many concerts as possible to as many fans as possible. It was not about quality or completeness. As I already said in another thread: the BitTorrent forum was initially meant for flac and not mp3 and nobody thought that one innocent rapidshare link would lead to such extensive sharing via rapidshare and similar sites (which is great, btw). But Richard is just not the person who restricts anything as long as it is not illegal and people are happy with it.
Also, I just cannot imagine that on Queenzone shares would be deleted because the lineage is not specified completely in a text file or that ratios are enforced or a concert would be deleted because it was ripped off a CD-R and not a silver CD etc. It's the charm of Queenzone that its owner is maybe the most tolerant person I ever met in my life a
"Agreed with barb. But we have been here before there was any sharing section on Queenzone.
In the beginning people shared shome MP3's, which was fine.
But over time it has become pretty clear what the side-effects are of mp3's. People even started new websites for sharing Queen to keep everything seperated. Contramovement is that the amount of lossy formates being shared in here has gone up.
Logically.
Similar sites to Queenzone all have taken action on this. (Eg, I visit some Tool, Zappa sites for instance which all did an active boycot on mp3. Whenever I am on those websites I realy feel sorry for Queenzone. 'We' don't give a shit about quality - while on those other sites quality is their strong point - which DEFINATELY also shows, as a result, in the quality of people that visit and the quality of their discussions!!
ALSO as a result, expecially on that Tool website logically as they are still touring actively, is that more people appreciate bootlegs, take better care of the preservation of them AND get more motivated to create them themselves AND help eachother actively in making sure everybody comes up with the best possible results from a bootleg recording!!
In a way that website has become more like a taping-collective (HIGH QUALITY taping-collective!) more then a sharing-the-music-community.
(Though I have to admit that in general Tool and Frank Zappa attract a much much more 'intellectual' audience to begin with... They are having the exact same discussions -the serious ones- as we have, but their is SUCH a significant difference in how they approach the exact same problems. Problems with trading, with sharing, the NOT-sharing of specific items (!)... everything we in here have discussions about as well)
Actually the BAND-wensites that share mp3's are very very few. Websites that focus on a particular band and their collectors all have gone over to torrents, or lossless anyway.
If you want to share mp3's - leave them to the p2p sharing programms where every 'moderate' musicfan can download 'moderate' quality stuff by every artist.
But QZ is a specialised BAND-website, which you'd expect to have a higher standard for appreciation of the band.
Solution is very easy: do as so many websites have done before us, including the more serious trading-websites like Dime: DON'T ALLOW MP3 TO BE SHARED. It should be like this: If you want to share/download mp3 you go somewhere else. If you are looking for QUALITY you come to Queenzone.
It's a snowballing mentality thing.
If all of us cared about quality more it would surely benefit the quality of the whole website!"
Here is my opinion:
If there were such a Queen website I would surely visit there and I would like be a part of it. I registered to Pieter's trader forum but not much is happening there at the moment. If there were a chance to have a forum with a civilized discussion and people working together instead of bitching and fighting I would be thrilled to be there.
But Queenzone is not that way. The history of Queenzone sharing comes from the mp3 servers and they were meant to distribute as many concerts as possible to as many fans as possible. It was not about quality or completeness. As I already said in another thread: the BitTorrent forum was initially meant for flac and not mp3 and nobody thought that one innocent rapidshare link would lead to such extensive sharing via rapidshare and similar sites (which is great, btw). But Richard is just not the person who restricts anything as long as it is not illegal and people are happy with it.
Also, I just cannot imagine that on Queenzone shares would be deleted because the lineage is not specified completely in a text file or that ratios are enforced or a concert would be deleted because it was ripped off a CD-R and not a silver CD etc. It's the charm of Queenzone that its owner is maybe the most tolerant person I ever met in my life a
I agree that is better to 'encourage' lossless sharing rather to ban lossy sharing.
don't get me wrong i do like mp3's but i am amazed at what as turned up the past day or 2...many quality shows and i think today no moaning.lol.i have downloaded more today and yesterday from here than what i have downloaded in the past month so let's all keep it going and have a happy queenzone.i'm currently going through my tapes to see what i can find i have found a few that due to poor storage that are no good anymore but also some i forgot i had so i will just add them as and when i find them,hope that is ok with everybody.
Just DON'T convert your mp3's to Flac or other lossless formats & try to pass them off.
We will know......there are proggy's that tell us!!
We will know......there are proggy's that tell us!!
i have mp3's.and i have a large collection of tapes which most of were aquired not long after the shows from dealers from all over the world... possibly before you were born before mp3's and cd's when there was only reel to reel tapes and the new cassette format c60/c90/c120 of that time.i am not converting my mp3's to flac.all my recording now that say they are flac are flac and direct from my original (tapes etc)recordings i have.and not converted from my mp3's so anybody is welcome to check them out
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]andy1962 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]i have mp3's.and i have a large collection of tapes which most of were aquired not long after the shows from dealers from all over the world... possibly before you were born before mp3's and cd's when there was only reel to reel tapes and the new cassette format c60/c90/c120 of that time.i am not converting my mp3's to flac.all my recording now that say they are flac are flac and direct from my original (tapes etc)recordings i have.and not converted from my mp3's so anybody is welcome to check them out[/QUOTE]
Awesome, Andy... we're looking forward to whatever else you have to offer. We'll keep them coming as well.
Awesome, Andy... we're looking forward to whatever else you have to offer. We'll keep them coming as well.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]andy1962 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]i have mp3's.and i have a large collection of tapes which most of were aquired not long after the shows from dealers from all over the world... possibly before you were born before mp3's and cd's when there was only reel to reel tapes and the new cassette format c60/c90/c120 of that time.i am not converting my mp3's to flac.all my recording now that say they are flac are flac and direct from my original (tapes etc)recordings i have.and not converted from my mp3's so anybody is welcome to check them out[/QUOTE]thank you.this is the way it should be.it's gonna take ages to go through everything i have,found tapes out of cases and been playing them trying to remember which show it was,tapes the kids have taped over,damaged tapes.spoke to my mother today and she has some more at her house from when i lived there it's just never ending...i think i had better find some of those famous dauwfs that every one keeps talking about.lol.....
Awesome, Andy... we're looking forward to whatever else you have to offer. We'll keep them coming as well.[/QUOTE]
Awesome, Andy... we're looking forward to whatever else you have to offer. We'll keep them coming as well.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]andy1962 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]i have mp3's.and i have a large collection of tapes which most of were aquired not long after the shows from dealers from all over the world... possibly before you were born before mp3's and cd's when there was only reel to reel tapes and the new cassette format c60/c90/c120 of that time.i am not converting my mp3's to flac.all my recording now that say they are flac are flac and direct from my original (tapes etc)recordings i have.and not converted from my mp3's so anybody is welcome to check them out[/QUOTE]
I never said you did Andy m8.
But i also know that some people on QZ with none or little knowledge of audio algarythms will think that if they convert "a file" and it now has a lossless extention ,such as flac ,then they will think that it now is lossless.
As you know ,this is not the case.
It was just a statement of general knowledge and aimed at all...not any individual.
I like the before i was born crap though.I'm not far behind Fred's Birthday.
Yes we remember 78's...lol
I never said you did Andy m8.
But i also know that some people on QZ with none or little knowledge of audio algarythms will think that if they convert "a file" and it now has a lossless extention ,such as flac ,then they will think that it now is lossless.
As you know ,this is not the case.
It was just a statement of general knowledge and aimed at all...not any individual.
I like the before i was born crap though.I'm not far behind Fred's Birthday.
Yes we remember 78's...lol
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]tgunn2760 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]"Right Sir GH, -:)))
stand up for your rights,... to paarty!!!
Burn all the mp3 on a huge vitual fire on QZ, so from then on all the world will feel proud and delighted whenever they enter QZ.
You are a kind of Don Quichote, fighting against windmills, my dear."
LOL...Or maybe his whole rant is just a ruse so he doesn't share his STASH.
[/QUOTE]
If you nitwits would browse back through the Announce forum over the past couple of years, you'd see everything that Sir GH *has* shared. A fair number of low-generation, lossless recordings, to say the least, and he's always released them with the simple request that they not be converted to lossy formats. That simple request was ignored time and time again--hell, I'd quit sharing too!
I listen to MP3s for personal use. 320kbps sounds good enough for me--any lower and I can hear the difference. That said, I never share the MP3s with anyone, and I never seed the MP3s on a torrent program. The shows I do continue to seed after downloading are ones that I've kept the FLACs for.
Sharing MP3s is like taking a dump in the pool. Ban the sharing of lossy files here, and maybe some of those collectors who have hoarded recordings won't see this as such a sh*tty place.
stand up for your rights,... to paarty!!!
Burn all the mp3 on a huge vitual fire on QZ, so from then on all the world will feel proud and delighted whenever they enter QZ.
You are a kind of Don Quichote, fighting against windmills, my dear."
LOL...Or maybe his whole rant is just a ruse so he doesn't share his STASH.
[/QUOTE]
If you nitwits would browse back through the Announce forum over the past couple of years, you'd see everything that Sir GH *has* shared. A fair number of low-generation, lossless recordings, to say the least, and he's always released them with the simple request that they not be converted to lossy formats. That simple request was ignored time and time again--hell, I'd quit sharing too!
I listen to MP3s for personal use. 320kbps sounds good enough for me--any lower and I can hear the difference. That said, I never share the MP3s with anyone, and I never seed the MP3s on a torrent program. The shows I do continue to seed after downloading are ones that I've kept the FLACs for.
Sharing MP3s is like taking a dump in the pool. Ban the sharing of lossy files here, and maybe some of those collectors who have hoarded recordings won't see this as such a sh*tty place.
Hello everybody,
It seems that Queenzone now have a lot of people talking to each other with being insultant, or so, and it's very constructive.
I agree with some points here and there.
I think wa can't say Mp3 is better quality than Flac, obviously it's not, the terms "lossy" and "lossless" are quite explicit words.
I also think that the collectors who have gems here don't wat to let them go, that's a shame everybody can't benefit from these files but what can we sat about that ? Being the best collector in the world is having somrbody doesn't have, no ? So, I think it will stay as it is.
I don't know the reputation of Queen collectors in the "outter world", so I rely on Bob' opinion. I think he's one the experienced collectors we can trust (but not the ony one !).
So, what about flac being transformed into MP3's ? No problem with that. Only id it is for personal use. I would be quite upset to get a Mp3 gig because I think it's the only way to have this gig, whereas the concert is already shared in flac elsewhere !!! For the shapring point of view, let's have the best quality available, and everybody can transform it into Mp3 if he likes, but then the rule must be that it cannot be traded wityh anyone then. It is a simple rule, so it must be the case, right ?
And to finish new Mp3 gigs to come in here, and start only viewing flac files on Queenzone, why not presenting now all the Mp3 gigs available, once for good, so that eveybody interested in Mp3 could download them and this forum could be more flac-oriented or new gigs-oriented ?
What do you think about it, Bob and everybody here ? Relisting all the mp3 gigs catalogue for a start, then why not making torrents to those files, or a website that could host ALL the gigs in MP3 format ?
And then I think Queenzone would be more flac-oriented, no ? It would be the last thing to share here, unless new gigs pop up here and there.
Well, that's a theory of course, but... why not ?
Thanks a lot.
Regards,
Olivier.
It seems that Queenzone now have a lot of people talking to each other with being insultant, or so, and it's very constructive.
I agree with some points here and there.
I think wa can't say Mp3 is better quality than Flac, obviously it's not, the terms "lossy" and "lossless" are quite explicit words.
I also think that the collectors who have gems here don't wat to let them go, that's a shame everybody can't benefit from these files but what can we sat about that ? Being the best collector in the world is having somrbody doesn't have, no ? So, I think it will stay as it is.
I don't know the reputation of Queen collectors in the "outter world", so I rely on Bob' opinion. I think he's one the experienced collectors we can trust (but not the ony one !).
So, what about flac being transformed into MP3's ? No problem with that. Only id it is for personal use. I would be quite upset to get a Mp3 gig because I think it's the only way to have this gig, whereas the concert is already shared in flac elsewhere !!! For the shapring point of view, let's have the best quality available, and everybody can transform it into Mp3 if he likes, but then the rule must be that it cannot be traded wityh anyone then. It is a simple rule, so it must be the case, right ?
And to finish new Mp3 gigs to come in here, and start only viewing flac files on Queenzone, why not presenting now all the Mp3 gigs available, once for good, so that eveybody interested in Mp3 could download them and this forum could be more flac-oriented or new gigs-oriented ?
What do you think about it, Bob and everybody here ? Relisting all the mp3 gigs catalogue for a start, then why not making torrents to those files, or a website that could host ALL the gigs in MP3 format ?
And then I think Queenzone would be more flac-oriented, no ? It would be the last thing to share here, unless new gigs pop up here and there.
Well, that's a theory of course, but... why not ?
Thanks a lot.
Regards,
Olivier.
We should all visit a site like The traders' den. Queenzone should become a site like that one but then of course for Queen recordings only. I love Led Zeppelin very much and on that site there are lots of great recordings from Led Zeppelin(and many many other bands). People over there know what they're doing. They label their recordings and when they share something they give all the information so it is easy to identify which version it is. Lossy sharing is indeed totally forbidden!!And indeed, a collector will not be taken seriously when he defends mp3 sharing. I read complains on that site about Queen collectors several times. 'They never share anything'. I have to agree with every word sir GH says.
I don't want to insult anyone but Queen fans sometimes forget there's a world outside Queen!
I don't want to insult anyone but Queen fans sometimes forget there's a world outside Queen!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Maxxbono wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]YourValentine wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Bob, when I read what you write about the LedZep traders who refuse to swap with you - how weird is that? And how stupid? They do not know you, they don't even know if you visit Queenzone. How can they hold you responsible for the files that are shared on QZ?
You cannot seriously expect that Queenzone changes its sharing policy just to please a couple of crazy LedZep collectors? The internet is much too big, you cannot avoid re-encoding of files that appear anywhere on the net. No compromise would make a difference to such people - no matter how many forums Richard creates. And we are talking about a small minority of people who apparently send death threats (!) to each other - sorry but these people cannot set the rules for a website like Queenzone.
What really makes me sad is the hostility and lack of tolerance I see on both ends of the spectrum. This forum is for people who share the passion for Queen music but I feel like I am in an ideological war. Nobody must share anything here, it's exactly as Martin said: it's a free world and if you don't want to share, you don't need a reason. But you cannot expect a website that is used by thousands of fans to submit to your rules. Queenzone was never a trader forum, it was always a fan forum and it's great when experienced collectors help fans with advice about encoding and various formats. Maybe that is the contribution that is most needed on Queenzone. Fights don't help at all.[/QUOTE]
Absolutely right.
Just want you all to know that if it wasn't for Queenzone and all the fantastic ppl who share in here, I would't have the change to listen to all those great shows I have. It is magical to me, to listen those concerts that I wouldn't be able to get anywhere else, and been a Queen fan for over 30 yrs, I just gotta say: Thanks to the Queenzone administrators and the fan community!!!
[/QUOTE]Yeah, but if we can make it even better, why hesitate? What bob tries to say: we don(t win anything by sharing lossy, we would win by sharing lossless. It's easy as that.
You cannot seriously expect that Queenzone changes its sharing policy just to please a couple of crazy LedZep collectors? The internet is much too big, you cannot avoid re-encoding of files that appear anywhere on the net. No compromise would make a difference to such people - no matter how many forums Richard creates. And we are talking about a small minority of people who apparently send death threats (!) to each other - sorry but these people cannot set the rules for a website like Queenzone.
What really makes me sad is the hostility and lack of tolerance I see on both ends of the spectrum. This forum is for people who share the passion for Queen music but I feel like I am in an ideological war. Nobody must share anything here, it's exactly as Martin said: it's a free world and if you don't want to share, you don't need a reason. But you cannot expect a website that is used by thousands of fans to submit to your rules. Queenzone was never a trader forum, it was always a fan forum and it's great when experienced collectors help fans with advice about encoding and various formats. Maybe that is the contribution that is most needed on Queenzone. Fights don't help at all.[/QUOTE]
Absolutely right.
Just want you all to know that if it wasn't for Queenzone and all the fantastic ppl who share in here, I would't have the change to listen to all those great shows I have. It is magical to me, to listen those concerts that I wouldn't be able to get anywhere else, and been a Queen fan for over 30 yrs, I just gotta say: Thanks to the Queenzone administrators and the fan community!!!
[/QUOTE]Yeah, but if we can make it even better, why hesitate? What bob tries to say: we don(t win anything by sharing lossy, we would win by sharing lossless. It's easy as that.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Nummer2 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]SirGH, in all respect, but you're talking from the view of a trader.
I'm a Queen fan since 1977, and only Queenzone made it possible for me to listen to their live shows. Before I found QZ I only knew the official stuff.
I can't describe how happy I am to have the possibility to download all the great stuff for free, without having to trade something in return (which I never would be able to). If there was a FLAC only policy on QZ, I doubt I would have more than 10 or 20 concerts yet – just because there would much less shares – but thanks to MP3 I have a lot more. And what's more important: I can give something in return by again sharing all those shows (almost) continuously to help spreading them.
Of course I prefer FLAC files over MP3. But I doubt that all the people who share MP3 stuff just out of convenience or lack of knowledge (those are the vast majority, no doubt) would share everything in FLAC if MP3 sharing was banned. And to rely on the few traders would be ridiculously silly. I can do without some 5 or 6 rare shows that stay withheld. I am lucky with what I have already thanks to MP3.
I can understand that you traders are interested in those rare shows that haven't been shared yet, but ... sorry, but ... you should have stayed away from QZ ;-)
And: It's easier to change your own ways, not QZ.[/QUOTE]If all traders would be like bob, this site would be a paradise full of wonderful lossless Queen recordings. I'm absolutely sure about that.
I'm a Queen fan since 1977, and only Queenzone made it possible for me to listen to their live shows. Before I found QZ I only knew the official stuff.
I can't describe how happy I am to have the possibility to download all the great stuff for free, without having to trade something in return (which I never would be able to). If there was a FLAC only policy on QZ, I doubt I would have more than 10 or 20 concerts yet – just because there would much less shares – but thanks to MP3 I have a lot more. And what's more important: I can give something in return by again sharing all those shows (almost) continuously to help spreading them.
Of course I prefer FLAC files over MP3. But I doubt that all the people who share MP3 stuff just out of convenience or lack of knowledge (those are the vast majority, no doubt) would share everything in FLAC if MP3 sharing was banned. And to rely on the few traders would be ridiculously silly. I can do without some 5 or 6 rare shows that stay withheld. I am lucky with what I have already thanks to MP3.
I can understand that you traders are interested in those rare shows that haven't been shared yet, but ... sorry, but ... you should have stayed away from QZ ;-)
And: It's easier to change your own ways, not QZ.[/QUOTE]If all traders would be like bob, this site would be a paradise full of wonderful lossless Queen recordings. I'm absolutely sure about that.