[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]mike hunt wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I don't have a problem with brian and roger working with paul. I have a lot of respect for him as a singer/musician, just don't call it queen, how can you name a band queen without freddie mercury?....who say's people who don't like queen + paul are living in the past?....I can easily turn that around and say it's brian and roger and their stefords who are living in the past. How can brian and roger sink so low![/QUOTE]
EXCELLENT POINT, Mike!
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]M a t i a s M a y<h6><i>QZ's Rainmaker wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Tannya wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]M a t i a s M a y<h6><i>QZ's Rainmaker wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Tannya wrote: [/QUOTENAME]OK, then you should build your own website called ROGER TAYLOR AND BRIAN MAY + EVERYONE and create your own Forum. Let the real QUEEN FANS on QUEENZONE ok?.
Q-U-E-E-N Z-O-N-E
QUEEN = Freddie Mercury (yes FREDDIE MERCURY!), Roger Taylor, Brian May and John Deacon (YES JOHN DEACON!).
Sorry, but this is a place where QUEEN FANS can share things about THE BAND and we love it with Freddie. Please don´t tell me what to do.
Thank You![/QUOTE]NO
PUTA[/QUOTE]
OK You should be a little more intelligent and don´t ofense people. Shame on you!!!!!
[/QUOTE]puta infeliz!!
me cago en tu pecho[/QUOTE]
NEVERMIND...
Q-U-E-E-N Z-O-N-E
QUEEN = Freddie Mercury (yes FREDDIE MERCURY!), Roger Taylor, Brian May and John Deacon (YES JOHN DEACON!).
Sorry, but this is a place where QUEEN FANS can share things about THE BAND and we love it with Freddie. Please don´t tell me what to do.
Thank You![/QUOTE]NO
PUTA[/QUOTE]
OK You should be a little more intelligent and don´t ofense people. Shame on you!!!!!
[/QUOTE]puta infeliz!!
me cago en tu pecho[/QUOTE]
NEVERMIND...
I wasn't born until 2 months and a week before Freddie died so I never got to see them live Queen+PR is all I've got so while they aren't QUEEN as it was originally meant to be I am thankful that I can at least have them since I couldn't have Freddie
this is kinda sad...
why are we doing this? what's the point? what's left of Queen (Bri and Rog) will be Queen. you all act like Freddie was Queen end of discussion. sure, he gave the name, but say Freddie hadnt died and Brian left. then it wouldnt be Queen. say Roger left instead. then it wouldnt be Queen. even Johnny! say he left instead! THEN IT STILL WOULDNT BE QUEEN. Queen isnt Freddie. Queen is Freddie, Brian, Roger and John. sure i like Freddie a little bit more than the rest (like, 10% more) but i dont go bounding around pouting saying "Paul will never be Freddie!" i dont expect Paul to fill Freddie's shoes. no one should. 'sides, no ones making you listen to Q+PR. you can go off and listen to the 1973-1991 stuff. theres nothing wrong with that.
but we're left with Brian and Roger, and they want to be called Queen. so in this instance, i say that brian and roger ARE Queen.
and yes, John DID leave. can you blame him? he's got two kids still in school as far as i know. his 4 other children he had to miss out on cos of his music career. he wants to be a dad now. so let him be.
and if Brian and Roger want to still be called Queen, then let them. they have the right to. cos they ARE Queen, they're just missing a few pieces.
sheesh...
why are we doing this? what's the point? what's left of Queen (Bri and Rog) will be Queen. you all act like Freddie was Queen end of discussion. sure, he gave the name, but say Freddie hadnt died and Brian left. then it wouldnt be Queen. say Roger left instead. then it wouldnt be Queen. even Johnny! say he left instead! THEN IT STILL WOULDNT BE QUEEN. Queen isnt Freddie. Queen is Freddie, Brian, Roger and John. sure i like Freddie a little bit more than the rest (like, 10% more) but i dont go bounding around pouting saying "Paul will never be Freddie!" i dont expect Paul to fill Freddie's shoes. no one should. 'sides, no ones making you listen to Q+PR. you can go off and listen to the 1973-1991 stuff. theres nothing wrong with that.
but we're left with Brian and Roger, and they want to be called Queen. so in this instance, i say that brian and roger ARE Queen.
and yes, John DID leave. can you blame him? he's got two kids still in school as far as i know. his 4 other children he had to miss out on cos of his music career. he wants to be a dad now. so let him be.
and if Brian and Roger want to still be called Queen, then let them. they have the right to. cos they ARE Queen, they're just missing a few pieces.
sheesh...
"[/QUOTE]I guess your not into the innuendo album, freddie wrote most of the material on that album. The song innuendo was mostly his, slightly mad, the hitman and a winter's tale from made in heaven. Some of my all time fav tracks were in his last days. "Roger" is easily the worst songwriter in queen in my opinion.[/QUOTE]"
Hehe. When it comes to Innuendo I think its a perfect example on how good Brian May and Roger Taylor were. The best songs in there was made by them. These are the days of our lives and The Show must go on are the highlights for me. Songs like Delilah and The Hitman does nothing for me. I'm going slighly mad is a good song though. When it comes to Innuendo its more Roger Taylor than Freddie Mercury. Taylor even did the first vocals for that one. Freddie made that section in the middle, but it was a Roger Taylor idea, and mainly his song.
Hehe. When it comes to Innuendo I think its a perfect example on how good Brian May and Roger Taylor were. The best songs in there was made by them. These are the days of our lives and The Show must go on are the highlights for me. Songs like Delilah and The Hitman does nothing for me. I'm going slighly mad is a good song though. When it comes to Innuendo its more Roger Taylor than Freddie Mercury. Taylor even did the first vocals for that one. Freddie made that section in the middle, but it was a Roger Taylor idea, and mainly his song.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Another Roger (re) wrote: [/QUOTENAME]"[/QUOTE]I guess your not into the innuendo album, freddie wrote most of the material on that album. The song innuendo was mostly his, slightly mad, the hitman and a winter's tale from made in heaven. Some of my all time fav tracks were in his last days. "Roger" is easily the worst songwriter in queen in my opinion.[/QUOTE]"
Hehe. When it comes to Innuendo I think its a perfect example on how good Brian May and Roger Taylor were. The best songs in there was made by them. These are the days of our lives and The Show must go on are the highlights for me. Songs like Delilah and The Hitman does nothing for me. I'm going slighly mad is a good song though. When it comes to Innuendo its more Roger Taylor than Freddie Mercury. Taylor even did the first vocals for that one. Freddie made that section in the middle, but it was a Roger Taylor idea, and mainly his song.
[/QUOTE] Innuendo musically was almost all freddie, but the lyrics were started by freddie and finished by roger. It doesn't take a genious to figure out who wrote the music for innuendo. If you know freddie and rogers history it should be obvious who wrote most of the song. Sorry to break the news to you!....
Hehe. When it comes to Innuendo I think its a perfect example on how good Brian May and Roger Taylor were. The best songs in there was made by them. These are the days of our lives and The Show must go on are the highlights for me. Songs like Delilah and The Hitman does nothing for me. I'm going slighly mad is a good song though. When it comes to Innuendo its more Roger Taylor than Freddie Mercury. Taylor even did the first vocals for that one. Freddie made that section in the middle, but it was a Roger Taylor idea, and mainly his song.
[/QUOTE] Innuendo musically was almost all freddie, but the lyrics were started by freddie and finished by roger. It doesn't take a genious to figure out who wrote the music for innuendo. If you know freddie and rogers history it should be obvious who wrote most of the song. Sorry to break the news to you!....
Roger Taylor came up with the idea for that song. He wrote the verses of the song. Unless you can show me FACTS that it wasnt Roger Taylors work I wont change my mind.
I heard (not 100% sure, but I'll throw it in) that Roger wrote the main core of Innuendo - that is the 3 "verses" ("While the sun hangs....", "While we live according....." and "If there's a god....")
Freddie wrote the "You can be anything...." bit, which was going to be another song, but he was too ill or out of ideas to finish it so he suggested to Roger to try it in the middle of his song, in a similar way to what he did with Bo Rhap. The guitar bit was Brian's idea.
So if you are going by "old Queen" rules, where the person who writes the lyrics gets the credit, then I guess it would be Taylor/Mercury.
Also, I was under the impression that Don't Try So Hard was written by John and The Hitman by Brian.
Going back to topic and an earlier point made saying that if a member of your family dies you don't replace them, well that is true, but families change and if a family member dies, do you then change your name? In fact, wouldn't it be considered disrespectful to change the family name?
Freddie wrote the "You can be anything...." bit, which was going to be another song, but he was too ill or out of ideas to finish it so he suggested to Roger to try it in the middle of his song, in a similar way to what he did with Bo Rhap. The guitar bit was Brian's idea.
So if you are going by "old Queen" rules, where the person who writes the lyrics gets the credit, then I guess it would be Taylor/Mercury.
Also, I was under the impression that Don't Try So Hard was written by John and The Hitman by Brian.
Going back to topic and an earlier point made saying that if a member of your family dies you don't replace them, well that is true, but families change and if a family member dies, do you then change your name? In fact, wouldn't it be considered disrespectful to change the family name?
The Hitman was Freddie's song, with Brian's input.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Mr Debauchery wrote: [/QUOTENAME]The guitar bit was Brian's idea.[/QUOTE]
Definitely not. They were written by Freddie. As stated above, Steve Howe said how Freddie had the guitar parts written out for him, note for note. Perhaps it was Brian's idea to reprise the guitar part with electric guitar, but he can hardly take creative credit for that.
Definitely not. They were written by Freddie. As stated above, Steve Howe said how Freddie had the guitar parts written out for him, note for note. Perhaps it was Brian's idea to reprise the guitar part with electric guitar, but he can hardly take creative credit for that.
Hmmm.
Considering everyone in Queen (and Dave Richards) have always said Innuendo was mostly Freddie's.... I fail to see why I should listen to some bumpkin say it was Roger's song.
Group effort, sure, but it's Mercury through and through. One cannot claim that it's Roger's song because it has lots of drums in it. What, so he wrote Princes of the Universe as well?
Ha-ha.
Considering everyone in Queen (and Dave Richards) have always said Innuendo was mostly Freddie's.... I fail to see why I should listen to some bumpkin say it was Roger's song.
Group effort, sure, but it's Mercury through and through. One cannot claim that it's Roger's song because it has lots of drums in it. What, so he wrote Princes of the Universe as well?
Ha-ha.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Zebonka12 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Hmmm.
Considering everyone in Queen (and Dave Richards) have always said Innuendo was mostly Freddie's.... I fail to see why I should listen to some bumpkin say it was Roger's song.
Group effort, sure, but it's Mercury through and through. One cannot claim that it's Roger's song because it has lots of drums in it. What, so he wrote Princes of the Universe as well?
Ha-ha.[/QUOTE] That's why there's so much disagreement about who was the main composer of Innuendo. We don't have any real proof of who wrote exactly what. What we do know for the most part is that freddie wrote the guitar part in the middle along with the operatic part "you can be anything you want to be" but the rest of the song is still up for debate. I still think it's mostly freddie, but roger might have done enough to get partial credit for the lryics.
Considering everyone in Queen (and Dave Richards) have always said Innuendo was mostly Freddie's.... I fail to see why I should listen to some bumpkin say it was Roger's song.
Group effort, sure, but it's Mercury through and through. One cannot claim that it's Roger's song because it has lots of drums in it. What, so he wrote Princes of the Universe as well?
Ha-ha.[/QUOTE] That's why there's so much disagreement about who was the main composer of Innuendo. We don't have any real proof of who wrote exactly what. What we do know for the most part is that freddie wrote the guitar part in the middle along with the operatic part "you can be anything you want to be" but the rest of the song is still up for debate. I still think it's mostly freddie, but roger might have done enough to get partial credit for the lryics.
I,ve been a Queen fan since 1973 & I think I,ve earned the right to say what I think. I went to Manchester to watch the Queen + PR gig with several friends but I just didn't think the formula worked well at all. I t wasn't that I don't like Paul as I have been a fan of his for even longer than I,ve been a Queen fan. He sounded great singing Free & Bad Company songs but his voice just didn't suit the Queen material they played. However, I have nothing against them playing & recording together if they wish. That IS their business. But as for them using the Queen name then I think we have the right to say no as this is NOT and never will be the Queen we know & love.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Drowse1 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]...But as for them using the Queen name then I think we have the right to say no as this is NOT and never will be the Queen we know & love.[/QUOTE]
We certainly have the right to express our opinions but in the end it's entirely up to them whether they use the name Queen or not.
I personally like the sound of Paul Rodgers singing many Queen songs but that said it's not the same as with Freddie.
We certainly have the right to express our opinions but in the end it's entirely up to them whether they use the name Queen or not.
I personally like the sound of Paul Rodgers singing many Queen songs but that said it's not the same as with Freddie.