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Here's a movie I'd love to see:
CASPAR: Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Netherlands
CASPAR: Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Netherlands
Don't you think I'd have something better to do? Like counting grains of sugar?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Don't you think I'd have something better to do? Like counting grains of sugar?[/QUOTE]
That's what I'm doing right now...
...3465
3466
3467
3468
3469...
That's what I'm doing right now...
...3465
3466
3467
3468
3469...
I think you doubled one around 1265 or 1266. So that means starting over yet again.
there you go again...
dont like my post decide what and who i am by a few words.. you do that alot around here
talk about pompus, self-centered, misguided arrogance!
oh wait i forgot...its my problem not yours...
it must be very difficult to be so young and so perfect at the same time
dont like my post decide what and who i am by a few words.. you do that alot around here
talk about pompus, self-centered, misguided arrogance!
oh wait i forgot...its my problem not yours...
it must be very difficult to be so young and so perfect at the same time
Caspar, it's not up to us to change the law...the federal law doesn't say that. It's the state of Georgia that needs to change the law, and only citizens of the state can vote to change it. The most we can do is apply outside national pressure, which this story on the national news is effectively doing. Other than that, everyone outside of Georgia's hands are tied.
Besides, laws don't get changed over night. You can't just snap your fingers and fix things.
On a side note...I realize you may not think you do, but you do come off as very anti-American based on the way that you say things. You never seem to point out when any other country does anything wrong...and don't hide behind the "US is a superpower" thing, because we aren't anymore since the troops are bogged down...China is the only superpower now.
Maybe if you started pointing out inconsistancies in other countries...perhaps even your own...you might come across as more unbiased. Just a thought.
Besides, laws don't get changed over night. You can't just snap your fingers and fix things.
On a side note...I realize you may not think you do, but you do come off as very anti-American based on the way that you say things. You never seem to point out when any other country does anything wrong...and don't hide behind the "US is a superpower" thing, because we aren't anymore since the troops are bogged down...China is the only superpower now.
Maybe if you started pointing out inconsistancies in other countries...perhaps even your own...you might come across as more unbiased. Just a thought.
I'll let you in on a little secret: I spend quite a lot of my time on pointing out the problems in my country. The only difference being: they are of no interest to those on an international forum, as my country doesn't have nukes and a problem with international restraint; neo-nazis growing in numbers and government corruption exceeding novelists' wildest dreams are of no interest when they occur in Holland.
But rest assured that I spend far more time on the problems here than on the US. Heck, it's landed me a file with the secret service just for being in a protest.
But rest assured that I spend far more time on the problems here than on the US. Heck, it's landed me a file with the secret service just for being in a protest.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote: [/QUOTENAME]You've got a hell of a lot to learn about how changes happen, MM.[/QUOTE]
How changes tend to happen and how they should happen are two entirely different things.
How changes tend to happen and how they should happen are two entirely different things.
CMU girl, I think I brought up the "super power" thing (and I am sure the USA is still so much stronger than China). I only wanted to point out why things happening in the USA are so much more important to the rest of the Western world than vice versa. In fact, nobody here disagreed that the verdict about the young boy in question is wrong, the whole argument was about off-topic issues. I understand that none of you Americans here like the raging attacks by TQ, I do not like them, either.
I am not happy to be blamed for all the injustices that happen in my own country, either. I am used to it, I am blamed for the atrocities that happened before I was born. In my country we are brought up to live with the collective guilt. I have often wondered what would have happened if only one out of 10 Germans had stood up against the Nuernberg laws that deprived the Jews of all rights. Would the Nazis have been able to enforce these laws if 8 million people had protested in Berlin? Most likely not. It was dangerous to do, it was a dictatorship and I am NOT comparing the Nazis with the USA or the Nuernberg laws with US sex offender laws. However, I am truly convinced that we are guilty of all the injustices and human rights violations comitted in our countries if we just watch and do not raise our voices. It's not dangerous today, it's only an email to send or a membership fee to pay or a phone call to make. When we do not get involved and do not tell our congress members or whoever is in charge that we disapprove, we are guilty. If only one out of ten citizens sends one single email of protest each week in cases of injustice - imagine the difference.
I am not happy to be blamed for all the injustices that happen in my own country, either. I am used to it, I am blamed for the atrocities that happened before I was born. In my country we are brought up to live with the collective guilt. I have often wondered what would have happened if only one out of 10 Germans had stood up against the Nuernberg laws that deprived the Jews of all rights. Would the Nazis have been able to enforce these laws if 8 million people had protested in Berlin? Most likely not. It was dangerous to do, it was a dictatorship and I am NOT comparing the Nazis with the USA or the Nuernberg laws with US sex offender laws. However, I am truly convinced that we are guilty of all the injustices and human rights violations comitted in our countries if we just watch and do not raise our voices. It's not dangerous today, it's only an email to send or a membership fee to pay or a phone call to make. When we do not get involved and do not tell our congress members or whoever is in charge that we disapprove, we are guilty. If only one out of ten citizens sends one single email of protest each week in cases of injustice - imagine the difference.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Serry... wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Crezchi wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Yes this is totally fucked up. But TQ, quit talking shit about 'us', we as people are NOT responsible for everything that happens, ok? You sound like Osama! Just because we live here, does not mean we agree. Good day bro.[/QUOTE]
No way, bro. For the last 80 years all Russians are responsible for invasion of Afghanistan, for communism, for the black holes in the outer space.... Now it's your turn, guys, enjoy![/QUOTE]
LOL That made no sense what so ever.
No way, bro. For the last 80 years all Russians are responsible for invasion of Afghanistan, for communism, for the black holes in the outer space.... Now it's your turn, guys, enjoy![/QUOTE]
LOL That made no sense what so ever.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Crezchi wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Yes this is totally fucked up. But TQ, quit talking shit about 'us', we as people are NOT responsible for everything that happens, ok? You sound like Osama! Just because we live here, does not mean we agree. Good day bro.[/QUOTE]
If I refer to the US and not to "the people of the US" that means I am speaking of THE GOVERNMENT. YES? If I say "The Netherlands" and not "The Dutch" I mean our GOVERNMENT? Is that so difficult to comprehend?!![/QUOTE]
Is it so difficult to comprehend that you have already made such accusations about the whole US? Come on dude, i am just sick of people labeling everyone and NOT the government! When your say "The US is so fucking stupid", that statement means, everyone who lives there. Learn the english language, and specify, i expected better from you, since you are usually precise on your ignorant rants.
If I refer to the US and not to "the people of the US" that means I am speaking of THE GOVERNMENT. YES? If I say "The Netherlands" and not "The Dutch" I mean our GOVERNMENT? Is that so difficult to comprehend?!![/QUOTE]
Is it so difficult to comprehend that you have already made such accusations about the whole US? Come on dude, i am just sick of people labeling everyone and NOT the government! When your say "The US is so fucking stupid", that statement means, everyone who lives there. Learn the english language, and specify, i expected better from you, since you are usually precise on your ignorant rants.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]YourValentine wrote: [/QUOTENAME]CMU girl, I think I brought up the "super power" thing (and I am sure the USA is still so much stronger than China). I only wanted to point out why things happening in the USA are so much more important to the rest of the Western world than vice versa. In fact, nobody here disagreed that the verdict about the young boy in question is wrong, the whole argument was about off-topic issues. I understand that none of you Americans here like the raging attacks by TQ, I do not like them, either.
I am not happy to be blamed for all the injustices that happen in my own country, either. I am used to it, I am blamed for the atrocities that happened before I was born. In my country we are brought up to live with the collective guilt. I have often wondered what would have happened if only one out of 10 Germans had stood up against the Nuernberg laws that deprived the Jews of all rights. Would the Nazis have been able to enforce these laws if 8 million people had protested in Berlin? Most likely not. It was dangerous to do, it was a dictatorship and I am NOT comparing the Nazis with the USA or the Nuernberg laws with US sex offender laws. However, I am truly convinced that we are guilty of all the injustices and human rights violations comitted in our countries if we just watch and do not raise our voices. It's not dangerous today, it's only an email to send or a membership fee to pay or a phone call to make. When we do not get involved and do not tell our congress members or whoever is in charge that we disapprove, we are guilty. If only one out of ten citizens sends one single email of protest each week in cases of injustice - imagine the difference.
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Great post Barb!
I am not happy to be blamed for all the injustices that happen in my own country, either. I am used to it, I am blamed for the atrocities that happened before I was born. In my country we are brought up to live with the collective guilt. I have often wondered what would have happened if only one out of 10 Germans had stood up against the Nuernberg laws that deprived the Jews of all rights. Would the Nazis have been able to enforce these laws if 8 million people had protested in Berlin? Most likely not. It was dangerous to do, it was a dictatorship and I am NOT comparing the Nazis with the USA or the Nuernberg laws with US sex offender laws. However, I am truly convinced that we are guilty of all the injustices and human rights violations comitted in our countries if we just watch and do not raise our voices. It's not dangerous today, it's only an email to send or a membership fee to pay or a phone call to make. When we do not get involved and do not tell our congress members or whoever is in charge that we disapprove, we are guilty. If only one out of ten citizens sends one single email of protest each week in cases of injustice - imagine the difference.
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Great post Barb!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Serry... wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Crezchi wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Yes this is totally fucked up. But TQ, quit talking shit about 'us', we as people are NOT responsible for everything that happens, ok? You sound like Osama! Just because we live here, does not mean we agree. Good day bro.[/QUOTE]
No way, bro. For the last 80 years all Russians are responsible for invasion of Afghanistan, for communism, for the black holes in the outer space.... Now it's your turn, guys, enjoy![/QUOTE]
But that's unfair!!!!!!!!
I'll still blame Russia for Comunism :P
No way, bro. For the last 80 years all Russians are responsible for invasion of Afghanistan, for communism, for the black holes in the outer space.... Now it's your turn, guys, enjoy![/QUOTE]
But that's unfair!!!!!!!!
I'll still blame Russia for Comunism :P
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]YourValentine wrote: [/QUOTENAME]CMU girl, I think I brought up the "super power" thing (and I am sure the USA is still so much stronger than China). I only wanted to point out why things happening in the USA are so much more important to the rest of the Western world than vice versa. In fact, nobody here disagreed that the verdict about the young boy in question is wrong, the whole argument was about off-topic issues. I understand that none of you Americans here like the raging attacks by TQ, I do not like them, either.
I am not happy to be blamed for all the injustices that happen in my own country, either. I am used to it, I am blamed for the atrocities that happened before I was born. In my country we are brought up to live with the collective guilt. I have often wondered what would have happened if only one out of 10 Germans had stood up against the Nuernberg laws that deprived the Jews of all rights. Would the Nazis have been able to enforce these laws if 8 million people had protested in Berlin? Most likely not. It was dangerous to do, it was a dictatorship and I am NOT comparing the Nazis with the USA or the Nuernberg laws with US sex offender laws. However, I am truly convinced that we are guilty of all the injustices and human rights violations comitted in our countries if we just watch and do not raise our voices. It's not dangerous today, it's only an email to send or a membership fee to pay or a phone call to make. When we do not get involved and do not tell our congress members or whoever is in charge that we disapprove, we are guilty. If only one out of ten citizens sends one single email of protest each week in cases of injustice - imagine the difference.
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Yeah, Barb, I did bring up the Superpower thing. And I'm not saying the US isn't a superpower anymore...but we are definately on the decline. We may still have impact on the world stage militarily, but other countries with access to things like nukes (Russia, Israel and India for example) are beginning to be in a better position to make an impact, especially since they have the troops to spare if they needed, and we don't. Economically, China has surpassed the US as being a superpower, if for no other reason than for the US budget deficit, which keeps balloning every day. Culturally, well, that's a different can of worms. Suffice to say that the US used to be the example of how to behave in the world (not that we were ever particularly good at that to begin with) but now the view has changed worldwide, with that you can't disagree. It's gone from, "Let's follow the US policies are far as we can" to "See what they are doing? Let's not do that...ever". Honestly, even as an American I can say that I really don't care about TQ's attacks on the US...most of the time there is a grain of truth down there somewhere which I agree with. I'm not a very nationalistic person, and to be honest most of the time I'm downright embarassed that I am an American because of the reputation that will proceed me everywhere I go.
I was just pointing out that the process of change looks like it has begun from the article (the lawyer working pro-bono and with legislators and such) and there isn't anything the rest of us can do beyond that point, besides draw attention to and condem the issue, which the national media has now done. We can't vote on whether Georgia passes a law that will free this young man...only Georgians can do that. Even if the federal court gets involved (and someone earlier said it was going to) our hands are tied, because the people have NO control over the judiciary, who are picked by the president with the sole purpose of interpreting the law passed by legislators. We may have a smidgen of control over the legislators, but not a whole lot.
Brilliant post though, Barb. In fact, that's the subject of a book written by a professor from my history department...well, kind of. The book
I am not happy to be blamed for all the injustices that happen in my own country, either. I am used to it, I am blamed for the atrocities that happened before I was born. In my country we are brought up to live with the collective guilt. I have often wondered what would have happened if only one out of 10 Germans had stood up against the Nuernberg laws that deprived the Jews of all rights. Would the Nazis have been able to enforce these laws if 8 million people had protested in Berlin? Most likely not. It was dangerous to do, it was a dictatorship and I am NOT comparing the Nazis with the USA or the Nuernberg laws with US sex offender laws. However, I am truly convinced that we are guilty of all the injustices and human rights violations comitted in our countries if we just watch and do not raise our voices. It's not dangerous today, it's only an email to send or a membership fee to pay or a phone call to make. When we do not get involved and do not tell our congress members or whoever is in charge that we disapprove, we are guilty. If only one out of ten citizens sends one single email of protest each week in cases of injustice - imagine the difference.
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Yeah, Barb, I did bring up the Superpower thing. And I'm not saying the US isn't a superpower anymore...but we are definately on the decline. We may still have impact on the world stage militarily, but other countries with access to things like nukes (Russia, Israel and India for example) are beginning to be in a better position to make an impact, especially since they have the troops to spare if they needed, and we don't. Economically, China has surpassed the US as being a superpower, if for no other reason than for the US budget deficit, which keeps balloning every day. Culturally, well, that's a different can of worms. Suffice to say that the US used to be the example of how to behave in the world (not that we were ever particularly good at that to begin with) but now the view has changed worldwide, with that you can't disagree. It's gone from, "Let's follow the US policies are far as we can" to "See what they are doing? Let's not do that...ever". Honestly, even as an American I can say that I really don't care about TQ's attacks on the US...most of the time there is a grain of truth down there somewhere which I agree with. I'm not a very nationalistic person, and to be honest most of the time I'm downright embarassed that I am an American because of the reputation that will proceed me everywhere I go.
I was just pointing out that the process of change looks like it has begun from the article (the lawyer working pro-bono and with legislators and such) and there isn't anything the rest of us can do beyond that point, besides draw attention to and condem the issue, which the national media has now done. We can't vote on whether Georgia passes a law that will free this young man...only Georgians can do that. Even if the federal court gets involved (and someone earlier said it was going to) our hands are tied, because the people have NO control over the judiciary, who are picked by the president with the sole purpose of interpreting the law passed by legislators. We may have a smidgen of control over the legislators, but not a whole lot.
Brilliant post though, Barb. In fact, that's the subject of a book written by a professor from my history department...well, kind of. The book