[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Atheist wrote: [/QUOTENAME]steve is skilled but brian is MUCH better guitarist and plays catchy good solos with MUCH more emotion to it. There are alot of guitarsts that are as good and better than steve vai,
check out this amazing Death Metal band who blow away steve vai with their talent. I know you probably will hate the vocals on this but just listen to the instruments, its the most intense thing ever created!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=LNQpLFns-CA[/QUOTE]you just don't get it, do you?
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That dude from Treasure Moment is the best guitarist ever. I'm sure if Queen weren't around they'd be the best band in the world.
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steve is an amazing guitar palyer, no doubt. he shows lots of emotion, and emotion is shown in different ways by different guitarists. brian and steve are in their own league.
btw i thought i should comment that steve has a beautiful guitar :)
(excuse the rant)
in general though, i dont like it when people claim that faster playing is better. they can claim that playing an instrument at high speed is dificult. when you try to replicate something impromtu, yes it difficult, because it was a one time, one shot thing, the play will be different the next time. when you play fast with emotion, thats one thing, but to think youre showing off a skill, anyone can play fast and messy honestly. it depends on how clean it is, and how much you can actually get into it, and if its played with a band, how well it fits with the rest of the band. just because a drummer has a double bass petal doesnt mean hes skilled at playing fast. therse plenty of tricks to show off with, but i say emotion is more important than the 'how fast i can play' skill.
btw i thought i should comment that steve has a beautiful guitar :)
(excuse the rant)
in general though, i dont like it when people claim that faster playing is better. they can claim that playing an instrument at high speed is dificult. when you try to replicate something impromtu, yes it difficult, because it was a one time, one shot thing, the play will be different the next time. when you play fast with emotion, thats one thing, but to think youre showing off a skill, anyone can play fast and messy honestly. it depends on how clean it is, and how much you can actually get into it, and if its played with a band, how well it fits with the rest of the band. just because a drummer has a double bass petal doesnt mean hes skilled at playing fast. therse plenty of tricks to show off with, but i say emotion is more important than the 'how fast i can play' skill.
See... threads like this baffle me. Music ought to be more of a collaboration than a competition.
All last week I was jamming with different guitarists, and as opposed to flooding the bands and making things awful - we were inventing pretty awesome stuff on the spot, and the beauty of it is that something different came out depending on which guitarist I was 'duelling' with.
One guy is a bluesy Hendrix wannabe... yet we made some unpredictable shit together. This other guy wants to be a shredder (he's well on his way... I told him that I was more of a 'splinter') and so when we were jamming we were just going *nuts* and doing harmonies... our lecturer was outside at the time and couldn't believe it was improv!
Guitar is such an interesting thing; and thats without pissing matches over who's better. People really ought to just have fun with it.
PS. The guy from Treasure Moment is better.
All last week I was jamming with different guitarists, and as opposed to flooding the bands and making things awful - we were inventing pretty awesome stuff on the spot, and the beauty of it is that something different came out depending on which guitarist I was 'duelling' with.
One guy is a bluesy Hendrix wannabe... yet we made some unpredictable shit together. This other guy wants to be a shredder (he's well on his way... I told him that I was more of a 'splinter') and so when we were jamming we were just going *nuts* and doing harmonies... our lecturer was outside at the time and couldn't believe it was improv!
Guitar is such an interesting thing; and thats without pissing matches over who's better. People really ought to just have fun with it.
PS. The guy from Treasure Moment is better.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Zebonka12 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]See... threads like this baffle me. Music ought to be more of a collaboration than a competition.
All last week I was jamming with different guitarists, and as opposed to flooding the bands and making things awful - we were inventing pretty awesome stuff on the spot, and the beauty of it is that something different came out depending on which guitarist I was 'duelling' with.
One guy is a bluesy Hendrix wannabe... yet we made some unpredictable shit together. This other guy wants to be a shredder (he's well on his way... I told him that I was more of a 'splinter') and so when we were jamming we were just going *nuts* and doing harmonies... our lecturer was outside at the time and couldn't believe it was improv!
Guitar is such an interesting thing; and thats without pissing matches over who's better. People really ought to just have fun with it.
PS. The guy from Treasure Moment is better.[/QUOTE]
Did you ever try anything like "Bijou" with your guitar? Just wondering, that track is awesome.
All last week I was jamming with different guitarists, and as opposed to flooding the bands and making things awful - we were inventing pretty awesome stuff on the spot, and the beauty of it is that something different came out depending on which guitarist I was 'duelling' with.
One guy is a bluesy Hendrix wannabe... yet we made some unpredictable shit together. This other guy wants to be a shredder (he's well on his way... I told him that I was more of a 'splinter') and so when we were jamming we were just going *nuts* and doing harmonies... our lecturer was outside at the time and couldn't believe it was improv!
Guitar is such an interesting thing; and thats without pissing matches over who's better. People really ought to just have fun with it.
PS. The guy from Treasure Moment is better.[/QUOTE]
Did you ever try anything like "Bijou" with your guitar? Just wondering, that track is awesome.
Bijou is a very fun song to play :)
A bit knife edge for me because it's kinda easy to get the completely wrong impression out of the song... one must be so gentle while doing it!!
A bit knife edge for me because it's kinda easy to get the completely wrong impression out of the song... one must be so gentle while doing it!!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Zebonka12 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]PS. The guy from Treasure Moment is better.[/QUOTE]I laughed SO friggin hard when I read that
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sebastian wrote: [/QUOTENAME]So it's not because of the Red Special, the sixpence, the treble booster or the modified echoplex, it's because of him.[/QUOTE]
Fully agree. It's a guitarist's touch that creates his sound, not his gear.
Fully agree. It's a guitarist's touch that creates his sound, not his gear.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Valensian Sky Surveillance wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Zebonka12 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]PS. The guy from Treasure Moment is better.[/QUOTE]I laughed SO friggin hard when I read that
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Did you miss my post? Hehe, because I said the same thing even earlier. =P
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Did you miss my post? Hehe, because I said the same thing even earlier. =P
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]ok.computer wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I won't get into a who's better who's best competition slanging match, but I will say this: you never saw Steve Vai in the Top 10 too much back in the day...[/QUOTE]
Sorry, but that argument has no merit. Most lists are popularity contests, being as they have little to no criteria.[/QUOTE]
And yet, what are we doing here, but debating what ultimately will become nothing more than a list...?
Sorry but my argument is as valid as anyone else's.
Sorry, but that argument has no merit. Most lists are popularity contests, being as they have little to no criteria.[/QUOTE]
And yet, what are we doing here, but debating what ultimately will become nothing more than a list...?
Sorry but my argument is as valid as anyone else's.
No, it is not. You're an idiot.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]ok.computer wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]ok.computer wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I won't get into a who's better who's best competition slanging match, but I will say this: you never saw Steve Vai in the Top 10 too much back in the day...[/QUOTE]
Sorry, but that argument has no merit. Most lists are popularity contests, being as they have little to no criteria.[/QUOTE]
And yet, what are we doing here, but debating what ultimately will become nothing more than a list...?
Sorry but my argument is as valid as anyone else's.[/QUOTE]
Absolutely. But the difference between this discussion and lists is that here we can actually provide reasons for our choices, whereas lists usually don't have criteria, and continue to say that Page and Hendrix were the greatest players ever.
Sorry, but that argument has no merit. Most lists are popularity contests, being as they have little to no criteria.[/QUOTE]
And yet, what are we doing here, but debating what ultimately will become nothing more than a list...?
Sorry but my argument is as valid as anyone else's.[/QUOTE]
Absolutely. But the difference between this discussion and lists is that here we can actually provide reasons for our choices, whereas lists usually don't have criteria, and continue to say that Page and Hendrix were the greatest players ever.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Valensian Sky Surveillance wrote: [/QUOTENAME]No, it is not. You're an idiot.[/QUOTE]
If that's all you have to add to the discussion, then really, you are an awful waste of ones and zeros....
If that's all you have to add to the discussion, then really, you are an awful waste of ones and zeros....
It's some kind of giveaway to the human mind that no guitarist thread can go for very long without turning into a low-brow kind of slanging match...
Let's start a thread about drummers instead!
Let's start a thread about drummers instead!