[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]928 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
Bob ,if you want to keep exactly what you've got.
Do the lot as 24bit & then author it as a DVD-A.
If one of the sources is 16 bit ,you wont lose anything by bloating that source but you will if you lower the 24bit.
As true DVD audio is 24bit it will play in standalones no prob.
You can swap the audio over from any original audio in authoring programs & then author it as a you would all other DVDs.. with chapters etc.
You could use a documentary,make a slide show or something just so there's something for the eyes while its playing,but that doesn't matter.
Just a suggestion to keep the integrity[/QUOTE]
You are not talking about an actual DVD-Audio, but you mean a Video DVD. 'True' DVD-A has a different structure, where the information is stored in the Audio_TS folder of the DVD and there is no video stream at all. The playback for these kind of DVDs is still rare, and they won't play in your standard DVD player.
However as you mentioned there is the possibility to author a Video DVD with 24 bit audio using a black screen, a slideshow or something like that as video stream. These discs will indeed play in most DVD players, but there is the problem again that most consumer players will dither the output to 16 bit (since most Video DVDs are 16 bit 48 khz, the industry obviously saw no reason to allow true 24 bit playback) and you'll get a lot of people bitching again that 24 bit was a waste of space.
Bob, I'd say create a patched version of the show using the original 24 bit files of the main source (the patch source needs to be uprendered to 24 bit in the process) and archive this version. Then dither this source compilation to 16 bit and re-torrent it.
Once there really is a demand for 24 bit files, you can post the original 24 bit compilation you made and since you archived the compilation you won't even have to redo the patch job then.
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]tilomagnet wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Are the postings completely out of order or am I doing something wrong?[/QUOTE]
Nah! Einstein explained time distortion. You´re just answering before SirGH even ask! ; )
Now seriously, sometimes the Queenzone board messes up the order of the replys. That´s what happened here.
Take care
Nah! Einstein explained time distortion. You´re just answering before SirGH even ask! ; )
Now seriously, sometimes the Queenzone board messes up the order of the replys. That´s what happened here.
Take care
When you do the mix, if you're editing out some of the presentor speeches (from one source or the other), what about adding them at the end of CD2 as "bonus"? At least to us brazilians they are very important!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Madman wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Any idea about second gig in Sao Paulo - did radio broadcasted full gig or only some very short part what we have ? Audience recording is so poor :(
Antonio do You know somethinks more about that ?[/QUOTE]
Radio broadcasted only that part, and I never located a better source. I had to copy it from someone (I wasn't at home to record the live broadcast, you know ;-).These live broadcasts are hard to find because almost everybody who would bother to record them from the radio were... at the stadium!
Antonio do You know somethinks more about that ?[/QUOTE]
Radio broadcasted only that part, and I never located a better source. I had to copy it from someone (I wasn't at home to record the live broadcast, you know ;-).These live broadcasts are hard to find because almost everybody who would bother to record them from the radio were... at the stadium!
Wait, wait...
Just finished the download, and listened a few bits.
My first impressions are:
1.It is not the true stereo source from JP2.That is easy to spot just listening the NIH intro. In fact, from the small bits I heard, it sounds flat mono to me.
2.The interviews at the end to my knowledge were never aired on radio, only on TV. That leads me to think that this source might be from... the TV broadcast...!?
Again, I just listened only a few minutes. If there is a presentor somewhere, please let me know and I will listen to that part to try to identify the broadcast source.
Just finished the download, and listened a few bits.
My first impressions are:
1.It is not the true stereo source from JP2.That is easy to spot just listening the NIH intro. In fact, from the small bits I heard, it sounds flat mono to me.
2.The interviews at the end to my knowledge were never aired on radio, only on TV. That leads me to think that this source might be from... the TV broadcast...!?
Again, I just listened only a few minutes. If there is a presentor somewhere, please let me know and I will listen to that part to try to identify the broadcast source.
'Radio dj' in some tracks (examples):
- STL 4:57
- Save Me 4:50
- Dragon Attack 3:29
- STL 4:57
- Save Me 4:50
- Dragon Attack 3:29
Thanks!
The source is the TV Bandeirantes Live Broadcast (mono).
That presentor was Hilton Gomes (who already passed away).He worked for Bandeirantes TV since the sixties and was the same man who interviewed the band backstage on TV.
This is the most complete video souce (full GDML for example, which is cut on all rebroadcasts).
The source is the TV Bandeirantes Live Broadcast (mono).
That presentor was Hilton Gomes (who already passed away).He worked for Bandeirantes TV since the sixties and was the same man who interviewed the band backstage on TV.
This is the most complete video souce (full GDML for example, which is cut on all rebroadcasts).
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]tilomagnet wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Bob, I'd say create a patched version of the show using the original 24 bit files of the main source (the patch source needs to be uprendered to 24 bit in the process) and archive this version. Then dither this source compilation to 16 bit and re-torrent it.
Once there really is a demand for 24 bit files, you can post the original 24 bit compilation you made and since you archived the compilation you won't even have to redo the patch job then.[/QUOTE]
Excellent suggestion. That's exactly what I'll do... :)
It actually turns out that the 1984 radio re-broadcast sounds a bit better. One of the channels was weak (but it's a mono recording, anyway), so I copied the right channel over to the left, and suddenly it sounded much better! So, the re-broadcast will be the primary source, and I will use this TV source to fill in the many gaps.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Queenland wrote: [/QUOTENAME]When you do the mix, if you're editing out some of the presentor speeches (from one source or the other), what about adding them at the end of CD2 as "bonus"? At least to us brazilians they are very important![/QUOTE]
No, I definitely won't edit it out! It'll run in real time.
[QUOTE]The source is the TV Bandeirantes Live Broadcast (mono).
That presentor was Hilton Gomes (who already passed away).He worked for Bandeirantes TV since the sixties and was the same man who interviewed the band backstage on TV.
This is the most complete video souce (full GDML for example, which is cut on all rebroadcasts).[/QUOTE]
Perfect.
Thanks everyone for the info and help!
Once there really is a demand for 24 bit files, you can post the original 24 bit compilation you made and since you archived the compilation you won't even have to redo the patch job then.[/QUOTE]
Excellent suggestion. That's exactly what I'll do... :)
It actually turns out that the 1984 radio re-broadcast sounds a bit better. One of the channels was weak (but it's a mono recording, anyway), so I copied the right channel over to the left, and suddenly it sounded much better! So, the re-broadcast will be the primary source, and I will use this TV source to fill in the many gaps.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Queenland wrote: [/QUOTENAME]When you do the mix, if you're editing out some of the presentor speeches (from one source or the other), what about adding them at the end of CD2 as "bonus"? At least to us brazilians they are very important![/QUOTE]
No, I definitely won't edit it out! It'll run in real time.
[QUOTE]The source is the TV Bandeirantes Live Broadcast (mono).
That presentor was Hilton Gomes (who already passed away).He worked for Bandeirantes TV since the sixties and was the same man who interviewed the band backstage on TV.
This is the most complete video souce (full GDML for example, which is cut on all rebroadcasts).[/QUOTE]
Perfect.
Thanks everyone for the info and help!
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It actually turns out that the 1984 radio re-broadcast sounds a bit better. One of the channels was weak (but it's a mono recording, anyway), so I copied the right channel over to the left,
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Hmmmm... I'm not sure if you should do that. The TV source is definitely mono, but I think that the 1984 radio broadcast has slightly different right/left channels. A spatial effect or something. Not a true stereo sound as JP2 source, but I think it's not a flat mono recording.
It actually turns out that the 1984 radio re-broadcast sounds a bit better. One of the channels was weak (but it's a mono recording, anyway), so I copied the right channel over to the left,
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Hmmmm... I'm not sure if you should do that. The TV source is definitely mono, but I think that the 1984 radio broadcast has slightly different right/left channels. A spatial effect or something. Not a true stereo sound as JP2 source, but I think it's not a flat mono recording.
Honestly, I think it's a lot better when you remove the left channel. It's a bit harsh on the ears otherwise... even if it's not a fully mono recording.
I have located a person who still have a tape of the true stereo JP2 source and he has sent me a sample.
His copy is unfortunately not a master recorded directly from the radio but here it is his sample, just to give you an idea of what I'm talking about:
http://rapidshare.com/files/24677639/Now_I_m_Here.wav.html
His copy is unfortunately not a master recorded directly from the radio but here it is his sample, just to give you an idea of what I'm talking about:
http://rapidshare.com/files/24677639/Now_I_m_Here.wav.html
Queenland - is this guy will be wanted to share with us this recording ?
I suppose quality isn't will be so so so good but I personally collecting every stuff - from different sources (even in worser quality)
I suppose quality isn't will be so so so good but I personally collecting every stuff - from different sources (even in worser quality)
Unfortunately no, he needs something for this recording that I also do not have.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Queenland wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Unfortunately no, he needs something for this recording that I also do not have.[/QUOTE]
Forget it then. Great, we know the recording exists. It's stereo, but it's still inferior. I'm much happier to have the excellent mono recording from someone who shared it out of generosity, anyway.
Forget it then. Great, we know the recording exists. It's stereo, but it's still inferior. I'm much happier to have the excellent mono recording from someone who shared it out of generosity, anyway.