[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]magicalfreddiemercury wrote: [/QUOTENAME]My father was a wholesale butcher so we grew up on meat. Now, the only 'meat' I eat is fish. My vegetarian dishes aren't elaborate but then, I'm of Italian descent, so I've been trained in the art of pasta. :-)
Several ethnic cookbooks offer vegetarian recipes and, honestly, when it's done right, you wouldn't feel like you're missing anything. I cook a lot of Chinese and Indian as well as Italian, and we never feel cheated.
If you're interested, there's an organization dedicated to rescuing downed farm animals. I have a standing monthly donation to them and receive their newsletters. They offer vegan cookbooks (which are much more strict than vegetarian) and proceeds go to supporting the animals they rescue.
http://www.farmsanctuary.org/
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Farmsanctuary looks like such a great organization! I want to adopt a turkey they are so cute!!
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color="green"><b> chickenlicious! wrote: [/QUOTENAME]since vegans don't eat meat, how do they get proteins without the use of vitamin supplements? we all know that meat's the greatest source for protein.
just curious. :)[/QUOTE]
The proteins and omega-3 fatty acids and such are in soja and maybe more things I don't know. I eat soya burgers almost every day. i don't take supplements...
Oh I just say Freya already posted something about it.
You're right foie gras should be banned. It's the very worst.
just curious. :)[/QUOTE]
The proteins and omega-3 fatty acids and such are in soja and maybe more things I don't know. I eat soya burgers almost every day. i don't take supplements...
Oh I just say Freya already posted something about it.
You're right foie gras should be banned. It's the very worst.
I've never considered going vegetarian to be honest...because I don't like enough vegetables to survive if I did. I mean, I'm big into pasta and fruits and things and there are a lot of times when I'll got for a few days without eating any meat at all.
Just remember to watch your cholesterol if you do go vegetarian, Dan. I cannot tell you how many people my mom has seen in the ER because they had heart attacks and they were totally confused about it because they were vegetarians. You've got to eat the eggs and beans and stuff for the protein, but they are also very high in bad cholesterol.
Just remember to watch your cholesterol if you do go vegetarian, Dan. I cannot tell you how many people my mom has seen in the ER because they had heart attacks and they were totally confused about it because they were vegetarians. You've got to eat the eggs and beans and stuff for the protein, but they are also very high in bad cholesterol.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color="#FF00FF">its_a_hard_life wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I've been brought up where everyone around me eats meat. I'm not aware of anyone in my family that are vegetarians. But myself, I don't know how I could quit and be a vegetarian.[/QUOTE]
Easily! You can do the research, and make the decision for yourself. Just because they're family doesn't mean they're infallible and that everything they brought you up with is correct on every level.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Haystacks Calhounski wrote: [/QUOTENAME]How about the pain that these poor plants feel when they are cut down in the prime of life? Does anyone ever give a moment's thought to that? The suffering? How do we know that these plants aren't scared shitless?[/QUOTE]
As much as you're joking, there are people who do think like that. They're called fruitarians. They only eat fruit, with the belief that the fruit and only the fruit naturally fell off the tree for us to eat.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color="green"><b> chickenlicious! wrote: [/QUOTENAME]since vegans don't eat meat, how do they get proteins without the use of vitamin supplements? we all know that meat's the greatest source for protein.
just curious. :)[/QUOTE]
http://www.abbottnorthwestern.com/ac/transcript.nsf/alltopics/FoodsProtein
There you go... there are plenty of alternatives!
Easily! You can do the research, and make the decision for yourself. Just because they're family doesn't mean they're infallible and that everything they brought you up with is correct on every level.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Haystacks Calhounski wrote: [/QUOTENAME]How about the pain that these poor plants feel when they are cut down in the prime of life? Does anyone ever give a moment's thought to that? The suffering? How do we know that these plants aren't scared shitless?[/QUOTE]
As much as you're joking, there are people who do think like that. They're called fruitarians. They only eat fruit, with the belief that the fruit and only the fruit naturally fell off the tree for us to eat.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color="green"><b> chickenlicious! wrote: [/QUOTENAME]since vegans don't eat meat, how do they get proteins without the use of vitamin supplements? we all know that meat's the greatest source for protein.
just curious. :)[/QUOTE]
http://www.abbottnorthwestern.com/ac/transcript.nsf/alltopics/FoodsProtein
There you go... there are plenty of alternatives!
those 'fruitarians' are quite extreme lol!! Plants don't even have a nerve system and brain, so how can they feel pain? I never knew there was something like a fruitarian lol
I am a little of a vegetarian (I am trying, but have yet to succeed in giving up in chicken, turkey, or fish). Vegetarians, as far as I know, get proteins from nuts, which might be a healthier alternative for people with high cholesterol.
It is rather difficult to go vegetarian, but I suppose, in the long run, it's a good way to build self-control, live a healthier lifestyle, and save lives of some animals.
Also, another reason to go vegetarian: meat factories are the biggest contributors to global warming, if you believe in that hypothesis.
On the other hand...
I do not recommend going vegan unless you have a ton of weight to lose and you want to live off of iceberg lettuce and celery sticks. You can't eat anything with eggs, milk, or honey that way, which severely limits your diet.
And the other thing on the other hand...
Your going vegetarian is not going to severely impact meat sales, considering there is a great number of people who still buy and eat meat regularly. If your intent is to stop meat companies all together, there is very little a chance going vegetarian by yourself is going to do much of anything.
Overall, being a "half-of-a-vegetarian," as I refer to myself as, I recommend it.
It is rather difficult to go vegetarian, but I suppose, in the long run, it's a good way to build self-control, live a healthier lifestyle, and save lives of some animals.
Also, another reason to go vegetarian: meat factories are the biggest contributors to global warming, if you believe in that hypothesis.
On the other hand...
I do not recommend going vegan unless you have a ton of weight to lose and you want to live off of iceberg lettuce and celery sticks. You can't eat anything with eggs, milk, or honey that way, which severely limits your diet.
And the other thing on the other hand...
Your going vegetarian is not going to severely impact meat sales, considering there is a great number of people who still buy and eat meat regularly. If your intent is to stop meat companies all together, there is very little a chance going vegetarian by yourself is going to do much of anything.
Overall, being a "half-of-a-vegetarian," as I refer to myself as, I recommend it.
@ Sir GH
Okay, let me put this straight. I like what I eat. I don't want to be a vegetarian. See? I've already made up my mind without any research. :-)
Okay, let me put this straight. I like what I eat. I don't want to be a vegetarian. See? I've already made up my mind without any research. :-)
I been one for the last 3 months, due to high cholesterol. I don't think it is so hard, so many veggie products out there, some of that Morning star burgers taste like Micky D's.
I lost about 27 pounds as well from being a vegetarian, I still eat fish, so I'm not a 100% veggie. If you love Pasta you'll be OK, as there is so many kinds of pasta, and veggis meatballs taste like the real kind, and you can get Boca's fake ground hamburger you'll never know the difference if you wanna make say tacos, or whatever.
I lost about 27 pounds as well from being a vegetarian, I still eat fish, so I'm not a 100% veggie. If you love Pasta you'll be OK, as there is so many kinds of pasta, and veggis meatballs taste like the real kind, and you can get Boca's fake ground hamburger you'll never know the difference if you wanna make say tacos, or whatever.
I hear Tim Curry "really loves" eating meat. *Ahem* ¬_¬
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Raststätte-Knödel wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME].DeaconJohn. wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]MR wrote: [/QUOTENAME]It would be a great thing if you'd become a vegetarian, not only for the animals, but also for your health. It's much healthier than eating meat. [/QUOTE]
- Is this actually true?[/QUOTE]
Vegetarians are at lower risk from heart diseases, cancer, for example. They have lower cholesterol levels in their blood etc. Eating a lot of meat isn't good for you (I'm not saying eating meat once in a while is bad, I don't know about that but it still is healthier not to eat meat, at least when you get all the nutrients you need)..there's a lot of cholesterol in it etc. you will get fat faster.
http://goveg.com/healthConcerns.asp
If you consider still eating meat, then eat organic meat. Those animals had at least somewhat better lives than the ones from factory farms.
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who cares? Cancer, heart diseases, aids, mad cow disease? Whats the big deal?! Take a fucking chance once in a while, we all need to take more risks once in a while. I like a little cancer in my food and water, it keeps you strong when you build up immunities. When its your time to go, its your time to go.
- Is this actually true?[/QUOTE]
Vegetarians are at lower risk from heart diseases, cancer, for example. They have lower cholesterol levels in their blood etc. Eating a lot of meat isn't good for you (I'm not saying eating meat once in a while is bad, I don't know about that but it still is healthier not to eat meat, at least when you get all the nutrients you need)..there's a lot of cholesterol in it etc. you will get fat faster.
http://goveg.com/healthConcerns.asp
If you consider still eating meat, then eat organic meat. Those animals had at least somewhat better lives than the ones from factory farms.
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who cares? Cancer, heart diseases, aids, mad cow disease? Whats the big deal?! Take a fucking chance once in a while, we all need to take more risks once in a while. I like a little cancer in my food and water, it keeps you strong when you build up immunities. When its your time to go, its your time to go.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]kingarthur wrote: [/QUOTENAME] When its your time to go, its your time to go.[/QUOTE]
Any idea when your time will be?
Any idea when your time will be?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]kingarthur wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Raststätte-Knödel wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME].DeaconJohn. wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]MR wrote: [/QUOTENAME]It would be a great thing if you'd become a vegetarian, not only for the animals, but also for your health. It's much healthier than eating meat. [/QUOTE]
- Is this actually true?[/QUOTE]
Vegetarians are at lower risk from heart diseases, cancer, for example. They have lower cholesterol levels in their blood etc. Eating a lot of meat isn't good for you (I'm not saying eating meat once in a while is bad, I don't know about that but it still is healthier not to eat meat, at least when you get all the nutrients you need)..there's a lot of cholesterol in it etc. you will get fat faster.
http://goveg.com/healthConcerns.asp
If you consider still eating meat, then eat organic meat. Those animals had at least somewhat better lives than the ones from factory farms.
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who cares? Cancer, heart diseases, aids, mad cow disease? Whats the big deal?! Take a fucking chance once in a while, we all need to take more risks once in a while. I like a little cancer in my food and water, it keeps you strong when you build up immunities. When its your time to go, its your time to go.[/QUOTE]
You're a bit like Freddie hmm :) he liked to take risks too lol
- Is this actually true?[/QUOTE]
Vegetarians are at lower risk from heart diseases, cancer, for example. They have lower cholesterol levels in their blood etc. Eating a lot of meat isn't good for you (I'm not saying eating meat once in a while is bad, I don't know about that but it still is healthier not to eat meat, at least when you get all the nutrients you need)..there's a lot of cholesterol in it etc. you will get fat faster.
http://goveg.com/healthConcerns.asp
If you consider still eating meat, then eat organic meat. Those animals had at least somewhat better lives than the ones from factory farms.
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who cares? Cancer, heart diseases, aids, mad cow disease? Whats the big deal?! Take a fucking chance once in a while, we all need to take more risks once in a while. I like a little cancer in my food and water, it keeps you strong when you build up immunities. When its your time to go, its your time to go.[/QUOTE]
You're a bit like Freddie hmm :) he liked to take risks too lol
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Raststätte-Knödel wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME].DeaconJohn. wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]MR wrote: [/QUOTENAME]It would be a great thing if you'd become a vegetarian, not only for the animals, but also for your health. It's much healthier than eating meat. [/QUOTE]
- Is this actually true?[/QUOTE]
Vegetarians are at lower risk from heart diseases, cancer, for example. They have lower cholesterol levels in their blood etc. Eating a lot of meat isn't good for you (I'm not saying eating meat once in a while is bad, I don't know about that but it still is healthier not to eat meat, at least when you get all the nutrients you need)..there's a lot of cholesterol in it etc. you will get fat faster.
http://goveg.com/healthConcerns.asp
If you consider still eating meat, then eat organic meat. Those animals had at least somewhat better lives than the ones from factory farms.
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My point was that you seemed to be saying in your first post that meat was bad for you. I eat mostly chicken and fish, and also plenty of fruit and vegetables, and I don't think I would be any more healthy if I went on a vegetarian diet.
- Is this actually true?[/QUOTE]
Vegetarians are at lower risk from heart diseases, cancer, for example. They have lower cholesterol levels in their blood etc. Eating a lot of meat isn't good for you (I'm not saying eating meat once in a while is bad, I don't know about that but it still is healthier not to eat meat, at least when you get all the nutrients you need)..there's a lot of cholesterol in it etc. you will get fat faster.
http://goveg.com/healthConcerns.asp
If you consider still eating meat, then eat organic meat. Those animals had at least somewhat better lives than the ones from factory farms.
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My point was that you seemed to be saying in your first post that meat was bad for you. I eat mostly chicken and fish, and also plenty of fruit and vegetables, and I don't think I would be any more healthy if I went on a vegetarian diet.
fruits are actually plant ovaries :) YOU'RE EATING A TREE'S BABY!!! XD
to answer the question, i was brought up by a hunter, and if a lion should eat meat, and an antelope eat a plant because oftheir teeth types, omnivores (people) have the choice to eat both. so why not? our teeth basically say we need certain foods, we need both, in moderation.
however i was brought up never to take an animals body for granted. they once had a soul, a life, feeling and emotion. to never let a part of their body go to waste, and if you are hunting, one must kill the animal as quickly and cleanly as possible so that they feel no pain.
i know it cannot be helped, i dont know how animals are processed, but i would like to think they are killed as painlessly possible.
i cant become a vegetarian, i like meat too much, and i was brought up to know that i didnt get to the top of the food chain to let veggies control my life :) i enjoy both.
to answer the question, i was brought up by a hunter, and if a lion should eat meat, and an antelope eat a plant because oftheir teeth types, omnivores (people) have the choice to eat both. so why not? our teeth basically say we need certain foods, we need both, in moderation.
however i was brought up never to take an animals body for granted. they once had a soul, a life, feeling and emotion. to never let a part of their body go to waste, and if you are hunting, one must kill the animal as quickly and cleanly as possible so that they feel no pain.
i know it cannot be helped, i dont know how animals are processed, but i would like to think they are killed as painlessly possible.
i cant become a vegetarian, i like meat too much, and i was brought up to know that i didnt get to the top of the food chain to let veggies control my life :) i enjoy both.
I don't really have anything against eating meat, just the way the animals are treated nowadays to produce it. Native people also hunt animals, but they really need it to survive and use every part of it. The animal didn't have a bad life etc, so I don't have a problem with it. Eating other animals is natural I guess, but what we are doing today..put them into tiny cages and make them fat as fast as possible..that's just really wrong. Besides, there are people who eat just too much meat. I don't think that's healthy. If an animal had a good life and was killed 'humanely', I don't have much against it really. That just doesn't happen today. On one of the sites posted here, I read they aren't even stunned properly sometimes, so they are still fully councious when their throats are slit and are even skinned alive sometimes. That's just horrible.