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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=666600><b>Music Man wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=lime>KillerQueen840 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I considered going vegetarian...until my parents threatened to disown me. ;)[/QUOTE]
Does it bother you that your parents don't support your individual beliefs, to the point of considering disowning you?
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Do you see what happens when you take exaggeration too seriously, Sir GH!?[/QUOTE]
It doesn't seem like an exaggeration when I apply what he said into my own life. Because that's practically what my mom is doing to me everytime we have dinner, she disowns me. She literally starts soft with "Oh, Carol... If you ate meat again- just a tiny bit of it- I'd be the happiest mom in the world!" And when she sees I'm not giving in, she just goes into an angry speech about how influeceable I am and how I'm going to end up weak and die and that I'm becoming anorexic. And sometimes, she even tells me she can't wait 'til Paul McCartney is dead. Don't ask me why she brought him up to the conversation, I don't know it myself...
Does it bother you that your parents don't support your individual beliefs, to the point of considering disowning you?
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Do you see what happens when you take exaggeration too seriously, Sir GH!?[/QUOTE]
It doesn't seem like an exaggeration when I apply what he said into my own life. Because that's practically what my mom is doing to me everytime we have dinner, she disowns me. She literally starts soft with "Oh, Carol... If you ate meat again- just a tiny bit of it- I'd be the happiest mom in the world!" And when she sees I'm not giving in, she just goes into an angry speech about how influeceable I am and how I'm going to end up weak and die and that I'm becoming anorexic. And sometimes, she even tells me she can't wait 'til Paul McCartney is dead. Don't ask me why she brought him up to the conversation, I don't know it myself...
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=660066>Carol wrote: [/QUOTENAME]It doesn't seem like an exaggeration when I apply what he said into my own life. Because that's practically what my mom is doing to me everytime we have dinner, she disowns me. She literally starts soft with "Oh, Carol... If you ate meat again- just a tiny bit of it- I'd be the happiest mom in the world!" And when she sees I'm not giving in, she just goes into an angry speech about how influeceable I am and how I'm going to end up weak and die and that I'm becoming anorexic. And sometimes, she even tells me she can't wait 'til Paul McCartney is dead. Don't ask me why she brought him up to the conversation, I don't know it myself...[/QUOTE]
All I can say is... I'm glad you're sticking to your principles. As much as it hurts that your mother isn't even trying to understand your point of view, you still can seek companionship with people who do know what you're all about. I hope you already have.
All I can say is... I'm glad you're sticking to your principles. As much as it hurts that your mother isn't even trying to understand your point of view, you still can seek companionship with people who do know what you're all about. I hope you already have.
Im 15 & i've been veggie for over 3 years now. I was raised in a family that loves meat and eats it often, But the only meat i ever ate was chicken or turkey. I've never liked dairy products like cheese or butter or cream. I also dont eat fish/seafoods.
Going veggie was easier for me cos i didn't eat much meat in the first place, but it was also harder cos alot of veggie dishes consist of dairy, especially cheese. But my parents understand and they subsitute the meat with more vegetables. Im also lucky because i have an aunt whose veggie and she helps me out.
The hardest part of being a veggie is trying to find sweets that are vegetarian.. i cant eat most jelly sweets, marshmellows and some chewing gums.
Can i ask any other vegetarians why they do it ?
Going veggie was easier for me cos i didn't eat much meat in the first place, but it was also harder cos alot of veggie dishes consist of dairy, especially cheese. But my parents understand and they subsitute the meat with more vegetables. Im also lucky because i have an aunt whose veggie and she helps me out.
The hardest part of being a veggie is trying to find sweets that are vegetarian.. i cant eat most jelly sweets, marshmellows and some chewing gums.
Can i ask any other vegetarians why they do it ?
Because of the animals :)
I hat ethe fact I can't eat jelly sweets...I can't also eat normal cheese because there is 'Rennet' in it. That's some kind of enzym that comes from calf stomach...fortunately there is vegetarian cheese here!
I hat ethe fact I can't eat jelly sweets...I can't also eat normal cheese because there is 'Rennet' in it. That's some kind of enzym that comes from calf stomach...fortunately there is vegetarian cheese here!
My Mum just tells me stuff like, "You refuse to eat the meat? Good, more for rest of us!", "You don't like milk, you say? Tell me how you like being hunchback when you get old!", and lots of other things of that variety.
I don't suppose it's my fault that I don't like meat or milk, and that I'm just a bit disturbed when I actually think about what meat is. ¬_¬
I don't suppose it's my fault that I don't like meat or milk, and that I'm just a bit disturbed when I actually think about what meat is. ¬_¬
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=660066>Carol wrote: [/QUOTENAME]It doesn't seem like an exaggeration when I apply what he said into my own life. Because that's practically what my mom is doing to me everytime we have dinner, she disowns me. She literally starts soft with "Oh, Carol... If you ate meat again- just a tiny bit of it- I'd be the happiest mom in the world!" And when she sees I'm not giving in, she just goes into an angry speech about how influeceable I am and how I'm going to end up weak and die and that I'm becoming anorexic. And sometimes, she even tells me she can't wait 'til Paul McCartney is dead. Don't ask me why she brought him up to the conversation, I don't know it myself...[/QUOTE]
All I can say is... I'm glad you're sticking to your principles. As much as it hurts that your mother isn't even trying to understand your point of view, you still can seek companionship with people who do know what you're all about. I hope you already have.
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Thank you very much for the support, Sir GH. :)
I'm part of an online vegetarian community, but I'm yet to find anyone whom I am in contact with that is veggie... I know there must be someone, I just need to look harder!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Raststätte-Knödel wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Because of the animals :)
I hat ethe fact I can't eat jelly sweets...I can't also eat normal cheese because there is 'Rennet' in it. That's some kind of enzym that comes from calf stomach...fortunately there is vegetarian cheese here! [/QUOTE]
You mean animals are slaughtered just the same to produce cheese?! I didn't know about that practice or about jelly candies... Thanks lots for bringing that up ( Rockit, too ). But what is done to the sweets that in non-vegetarian? :O
And to answer Rockit's question, I also do it for the animals. :)
All I can say is... I'm glad you're sticking to your principles. As much as it hurts that your mother isn't even trying to understand your point of view, you still can seek companionship with people who do know what you're all about. I hope you already have.
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Thank you very much for the support, Sir GH. :)
I'm part of an online vegetarian community, but I'm yet to find anyone whom I am in contact with that is veggie... I know there must be someone, I just need to look harder!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Raststätte-Knödel wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Because of the animals :)
I hat ethe fact I can't eat jelly sweets...I can't also eat normal cheese because there is 'Rennet' in it. That's some kind of enzym that comes from calf stomach...fortunately there is vegetarian cheese here! [/QUOTE]
You mean animals are slaughtered just the same to produce cheese?! I didn't know about that practice or about jelly candies... Thanks lots for bringing that up ( Rockit, too ). But what is done to the sweets that in non-vegetarian? :O
And to answer Rockit's question, I also do it for the animals. :)
I never knew it, until I once read 'vegetarian cheese' on some product...so that made me wonder. The calves aren't really slaughtered for it, the enzym is more of a byproduct of the veal industry. In sweets there's Gelatin, some kind of protein that comes from cooked skins and bones of pigs and cows I never knew about that either
gov'm'nt cheese?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: [/QUOTENAME]It didn't seem like an exaggeration to me!
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Sorry, it was indeed a slight exaggeration. I can see how you would take it otherwise, since the internet sucks when you can't hear the tone of a person's voice...
I used to want to go vegetarian, my mum would get pissed because she'd think that I was trying to lose weight or just doing it because my cousin did. I try to eat pretty healthy so I get accused of skipping meals and not eating much from her sometimes, although that couldn't be more far from the truth. Just because I once used to be a super health freak, she automatically assumes I'm still like that, although times have since changed.
I love soy products. Soy nuggets, bocca burgers, tofu...I seriously cannot get sick of those.
However, I have also realized that I LOVE chicken. Especially my dad's spicy shredded Thai basil chicken. My mouth waters when I think of it.
Maybe for kicks I'll try going vegetarian next year when I'm in college since my parents won't need to know. However, til then, I'm going to enjoy what food is around the house.
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Sorry, it was indeed a slight exaggeration. I can see how you would take it otherwise, since the internet sucks when you can't hear the tone of a person's voice...
I used to want to go vegetarian, my mum would get pissed because she'd think that I was trying to lose weight or just doing it because my cousin did. I try to eat pretty healthy so I get accused of skipping meals and not eating much from her sometimes, although that couldn't be more far from the truth. Just because I once used to be a super health freak, she automatically assumes I'm still like that, although times have since changed.
I love soy products. Soy nuggets, bocca burgers, tofu...I seriously cannot get sick of those.
However, I have also realized that I LOVE chicken. Especially my dad's spicy shredded Thai basil chicken. My mouth waters when I think of it.
Maybe for kicks I'll try going vegetarian next year when I'm in college since my parents won't need to know. However, til then, I'm going to enjoy what food is around the house.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=teal>Cookies?<h6>A Scientist wrote: [/QUOTENAME]My Mum just tells me stuff like, "You refuse to eat the meat? Good, more for rest of us!", "You don't like milk, you say? Tell me how you like being hunchback when you get old!", and lots of other things of that variety.
I don't suppose it's my fault that I don't like meat or milk, and that I'm just a bit disturbed when I actually think about what meat is. ¬_¬[/QUOTE]
Ah, how ignorance is bliss. It's a fact that people who don't eat meat live longer, as long as they find alternative ways to get their nutrients.
Proteins, as I posted above: http://www.abbottnorthwestern.com/ac/transcript.nsf/alltopics/FoodsProtein
Calcium: http://www.bchealthguide.org/healthfiles/hfile68e.stm
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=660066>Carol wrote: [/QUOTENAME] Thank you very much for the support, Sir GH. :)
I'm part of an online vegetarian community, but I'm yet to find anyone whom I am in contact with that is veggie... I know there must be someone, I just need to look harder![/QUOTE]
Any time. :)
As time goes on, you'll find more and more people who get you. They're out there!
I don't suppose it's my fault that I don't like meat or milk, and that I'm just a bit disturbed when I actually think about what meat is. ¬_¬[/QUOTE]
Ah, how ignorance is bliss. It's a fact that people who don't eat meat live longer, as long as they find alternative ways to get their nutrients.
Proteins, as I posted above: http://www.abbottnorthwestern.com/ac/transcript.nsf/alltopics/FoodsProtein
Calcium: http://www.bchealthguide.org/healthfiles/hfile68e.stm
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=660066>Carol wrote: [/QUOTENAME] Thank you very much for the support, Sir GH. :)
I'm part of an online vegetarian community, but I'm yet to find anyone whom I am in contact with that is veggie... I know there must be someone, I just need to look harder![/QUOTE]
Any time. :)
As time goes on, you'll find more and more people who get you. They're out there!
I think a big reason why people who don't eat meat tend to live longer is that they must thoroughly research the nutritional value of foods, due to the irregularity of the diet. They also tend to build up a decent level of self-control due to the dietary parameters they set for themselves. Another thing to note is the vastness of healthy choices for vegetarians vs. the vastness of unhealthy choices for non-vegetarians.
These behavioral characteristics in vegetarians are obviously a good thing, but I'm only pointing out that a person who regularly eats meat would probably fare just as well if he were to set such dietary measures. Basically, what I'm trying to say, is that vegetarianism isn't intrinsically healthier than non-vegetarianism.
Either way, if you are approximately the size of a twig, that is a strong message that you are probably not receiving adequate nutrition, and you should seek to remedy that - through your own dietary parameters, of course.
These behavioral characteristics in vegetarians are obviously a good thing, but I'm only pointing out that a person who regularly eats meat would probably fare just as well if he were to set such dietary measures. Basically, what I'm trying to say, is that vegetarianism isn't intrinsically healthier than non-vegetarianism.
Either way, if you are approximately the size of a twig, that is a strong message that you are probably not receiving adequate nutrition, and you should seek to remedy that - through your own dietary parameters, of course.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: [/QUOTENAME]It didn't seem like an exaggeration to me!
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Don't take seriously posts that end with a ;-) or a ;)
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Don't take seriously posts that end with a ;-) or a ;)
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=666600><b>Music Man wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
2) The websites and videos we see are highly exaggerated, the situation is not nearly as bad as it is portrayed, and/or the presented situations are very rare or short-lived, or even outdated. Hence, propaganda.[/QUOTE]
Images and videos don't lie, and this one is without a doubt part of a process that happens on a day to day basis. When it comes to promoting animal rights, that could not be considered propaganda.
However, when it comes to pushing people to become vegetarians by making them watch one of these videos, that could be considered propaganda.
Let's face it, the whole human race has been omnivore since the beginning of time, and no matter what Peta or any other organizations do to convince people to turn vegetarian, the majority of us won't go veg.
I do believe that at least there should be some tougher enforcement on laws protecting animals against cruelty. If we are going to use animals for our own consumption, at least we should be concerned about giving them better treatment, and not make them suffer so much in the process before being slaughtered.
2) The websites and videos we see are highly exaggerated, the situation is not nearly as bad as it is portrayed, and/or the presented situations are very rare or short-lived, or even outdated. Hence, propaganda.[/QUOTE]
Images and videos don't lie, and this one is without a doubt part of a process that happens on a day to day basis. When it comes to promoting animal rights, that could not be considered propaganda.
However, when it comes to pushing people to become vegetarians by making them watch one of these videos, that could be considered propaganda.
Let's face it, the whole human race has been omnivore since the beginning of time, and no matter what Peta or any other organizations do to convince people to turn vegetarian, the majority of us won't go veg.
I do believe that at least there should be some tougher enforcement on laws protecting animals against cruelty. If we are going to use animals for our own consumption, at least we should be concerned about giving them better treatment, and not make them suffer so much in the process before being slaughtered.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Mr.Jingles wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
If we are going to use animals for our own consumption, at least we should be concerned about giving them better treatment, and not make them suffer so much in the process before being slaughtered. [/QUOTE]
I'm in absolute agreement. Can't imagine why anyone wouldn't be, but, sadly, there are many.
If we are going to use animals for our own consumption, at least we should be concerned about giving them better treatment, and not make them suffer so much in the process before being slaughtered. [/QUOTE]
I'm in absolute agreement. Can't imagine why anyone wouldn't be, but, sadly, there are many.