Freddie knew he had HIV in 1984?

notimeforlosers wrote: Gregsynth wrote: Well someone said that he looked fat and out of shape because he got infected with HIV. I'm like "that's BS."

That photo was to prove that he wasn't fat or out of shape!

Well, if you've watched Live in Rio you will notice Freddie was indees a bit fatty.
He had a belly well in development by that time (january 1985), as well as in the
other gigs from early '85. Then suddenly in july by the time of Live Aid, he was
totally in shape. Like this picture from this article:

http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/ilustrada/854676-queen-ganha-exposicao-filmes-e-reedicao-de-toda-a-sua-obra-em-nova-gravadora.shtml

But I don't think this has something to do with his illness. And if I'm going to give
an opinion, he was infected by 81-83. It was a time when he was massively going
into clubs having unsafe sex with everyone that crossed his way. I have read 
Lesley-Ann Jones biography (an excellent one, best I've read by the way) and once
you read it you're sure that this was the exactly period. But that doesn't mean he knew
it. I think he could suppose he did, but was not sure at all. The confirmation test was
really in early '87 when he was already developing full blown AIDS.
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I'm almost positive that Freddie was just out of shape because of not touring (he also had parties during christmas and stuff--probably packed on a few pounds)!

As for the test, the only one I was aware was the spring of 1987 (when it said he had AIDS). I'm putting my money on 1984 being the year he got infected (that Russian guy, Kenny Everret, etc), but Freddie didn't get a test until 1986/7 (because he thought it wouldn't happen to him--but when his friends started dying, he started questioning himself).

new one wrote: I too have read Jims book and found it to be an interesting read. I'm not sure Freddie would have wanted the world to know of his last words etc but who knows.

With regards the who infected who thing i guess we can only take Jim Huttons word for it. I think the reason people are suspicious of Jim is the fact that he is still alive today and never developed full blown aids. I realise that this is something genetic with jim which means he will not develop full bllown aids. It is mildly suspicious that Jim waited to so long to be tested after Freddie was diagnosed given that they were lovers and did not practice safe sex. Was it because he knew he was already HIV positive and had perhaps infected Freddie himself? We will never know but I think the suspicion will always be there rightly or wrongly.

Err... Jim Hutton died last year.

Bigfish wrote: new one wrote: I too have read Jims book and found it to be an interesting read. I'm not sure Freddie would have wanted the world to know of his last words etc but who knows.

With regards the who infected who thing i guess we can only take Jim Huttons word for it. I think the reason people are suspicious of Jim is the fact that he is still alive today and never developed full blown aids. I realise that this is something genetic with jim which means he will not develop full bllown aids. It is mildly suspicious that Jim waited to so long to be tested after Freddie was diagnosed given that they were lovers and did not practice safe sex. Was it because he knew he was already HIV positive and had perhaps infected Freddie himself? We will never know but I think the suspicion will always be there rightly or wrongly.

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Err... Jim Hutton died last year...

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I think you didn't see the date of new one's post.
He wrote back in 2009 when Jim was still sound and safe in Carlow, Ireland.

Freddie did not have AIDS until the summer of 1987.

It was not until that time when President Ronald Reagan uttered the term 'AIDS'.

Therefore, it did not exist until then,  Therefore, Freddie did not have the disease until that time.

According to some people, Reagan was gawd.  Gawd spoke.  And gawd spoke that it did not exist until 1987.  Before that year, it was still GRIDS.  Actually, according to gawd, GRIDS didn't exist at all.  Because gawd never said GRIDS.

Case closed.

for those wanting to know when aids first started read take a look at the following link, that will give your answer

http://www.avert.org/aids-timeline.htm

I don't know why this topic is still going.  Freddie was a very private man, and only he knew.  He told his friends at various times, but that has nothing to do with when he contracted the disease nor when he learned he had it.  All we know is he most likely was aware in 1986, and perhaps earlier.

"Err... Jim Hutton died last year. "

Not a moment too soon!

Zebonka12 wrote: "Err... Jim Hutton died last year. "

Not a moment too soon!
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It should have been Mary.

I just found a pic on Tumblr of Freddie at Live Aid.....anyone notice the "bruises" or marks on his arm?! *sigh* I wish he was still here :/

Hoenstly freddie has to be infected from 1980-1983. He had karposi sarcoma in 86-87 (full blown aids).

You dont get infected and have full blown aids in a year, sorry. He had full blown aids in 87 (karposi sarcoma is an AIDS symptom), he had to have had it for year to go from hiv to aids. I am guessing he was infected between 1980-1983, when nobody knew much about it, and gay men didnt learn to safe sex until it was too late. (freddies case)

I wouldn't be at all if he dd have it in 1984. He also probably would have had an increasingly good idea that he had it, even if he did actually take the test a fair bit later than 84-85.
If people you know and used to be in the same circle as started coming down with it, you'd be increasingly concerned that you'd also have it, so I think Freddie probably had a fairly good idea by say 1985, though it may not hae been confirmed at that stage.

Radiogugu, you can have what they call rapid progress, where in you can be DEAD from AIDS within a year of first catching HIV. You'd unlucky but its just as possible to get that as it is to survive 15-20 years and not have it become AIDS.

What a horrible thing to say, Zebonka. You should be ashamed of yourself. You come across as a pathetic little person.

Barbara valentine never had HIV or AIDS did she? They shagged plenty apparently...

[QUOTE] [b]Day dop wrote:[/b]
Barbara valentine never had HIV or AIDS did she? They shagged plenty apparently...[/QUOTE]
That sounds lame.

"That sounds lame."

That's like... comment of the year or something.