There is no law set in stone saying that a pop song is bad when it's political or an "issue" song. Roger sang Masters Of War and while he did not sing it so convincingly as Eddie Vedder (for example), at least he cared enough to put it on record. In my very personal opinion Roger's anti-war attitude comes from his brain and logic rather than from the heart and therefore his political songs (Nazis!!) are not so great as they could be. "Old Friends" comes from the heart and is a great song. "Dear Mr. Murdoch" also came from personal emotion and it's a good song, too - too bad he forgot about it and collaborated with the SUN and American Idol. Anyway, I agree with Sir GH, we should wait until we hear the song and judge it after listening.
Great news about a Roger tour with Taylor Hawkins and a Queen tour cannot be really bad:-)
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Hi YV
Of course we have to wait to see how this turns out, and I'll definitely buy it as a download, but what would life be without a bit of speculation? :) Roger's past form with politics doesn't fill me with much hope that this will be something earth-shattering or important. The Roger/Foo thing sounds great, but I'll reserve judgment on a new Queen tour until I see the line up!
cmsdrums · Member since
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[b]Richard Orchard wrote: [/b]
Roger often likes to "court" controversy in his songs, in the hope that publicity will drive sales. e.g. Nazis, Surrender. Obviously, it hasn;'t worked so far....
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I don't think that's true. The record company were really against putting Nazis out as the lead single, and warned him that it wouldn't get airplay and would struggle to be heard, but Roger was adamant because he wanted his views on the subject known (even if to fewer people).
To be honest, it was banned purely because radio and TV completely misinterpreted the song and based purely on the title thought it was pro Nazi as opposed to anti Nazi; this was also around the time that Schindler's List was everywhere in the media and the song should really have been enjoying the same far minded treatment as that, as the content and message were of the same mind.
He even released a handwritten press release to explain the song, and why the lyrical line was repeated, and after reading this, the supposedly 'simple' lyrics took on a new depth when accounting for the intention and thought behind how they were delivered in the song.
I'm more than happy for the variety of topics touched on by Roger in his solo stuff - it has far more depth and breadth than Brian's - for every Nazis or Surrender, there's a Let's Get Crazy or a No More Fun.
A Word In Your Ear · Member since
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[b]YourValentine wrote: [/b]
There is no law set in stone saying that a pop song is bad when it's political or an "issue" song. Roger sang Masters Of War and while he did not sing it so convincingly as Eddie Vedder (for example), at least he cared enough to put it on record. In my very personal opinion Roger's anti-war attitude comes from his brain and logic rather than from the heart and therefore his political songs (Nazis!!) are not so great as they could be. "Old Friends" comes from the heart and is a great song. "Dear Mr. Murdoch" also came from personal emotion and it's a good song, too - too bad he forgot about it and collaborated with the SUN and American Idol. Anyway, I agree with Sir GH, we should wait until we hear the song and judge it after listening.
Great news about a Roger tour with Taylor Hawkins and a Queen tour cannot be really bad:-)[/QUOTE]
Well said, Barbara.
Just because it's a political song, does not say, it's going to be bad.
Hutchence · Member since
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[b]Thomas Tønnesen wrote: [/b]
http://www.oe24.at/kultur/Queen-planen-Tournee-0572922.ece[/QUOTE]
F.....g great news, can't wait...!
demonwolf · Member since
Using my rusty school German, I freely translated it to:
- Regarding Paul Rodgers, Roger says there will be no more tours or CD's with him. They are still friends, but he and Brian have some differences
- Roger's song will be released tomorrow thursday as an internet download
- There's an idea for a Queen tour with him and Brian singing, and with Freddie on video screen a couple of times a'la Q+PR
- In March, he'll go out on tour with Taylor Hawkins and they will play "from Queen to Led Zeppelin, everything that is loud and good"
Togg · Member since
Obviously completely guessing here but one could imagine Brian finding the rock up and lets play aspect of Paul difficult to deal with. I understand he didn't turn up to many soundchecks which is something Queen always do and always did.
Paul I suspect takes a much more relaxed attitude to live and studio work, where as Brian is totally obsessed with making everything perfect (in his eyes)
Might be way off, but would love to know for sure
john bodega · Member since
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[b]demonwolf wrote:[/b]
- There's an idea for a Queen tour with him and Brian singing, and with Freddie on video screen a couple of times a'la Q+PR
[/QUOTE] They should've done that ten years ago .... and stuck with it.
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Makka · Member since
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[b]cmsdrums wrote: [/b]
[b]Holly2003 wrote: [/b]
Hopefully, six and half minutes of this will be a drum solo, and the other 30 seconds, Roger trying to rhyme something with Afghanistan.
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"Ha ha! My money is on a typical Roger line of "you've got Afghanistan going down the pan"
Remember, you heard it here first!!"
Naw, probably fucken Desperate Dan again or some silly bollocks!
Benn Kempster · Member since
The really sad thing is that Roger's solo material is actually the best output of ANY of the members of Queen. Rythmically and musically, he's outstripped Brian and Freddie. However, what really stopped him in his tracks was the fact that he just couldn;t help getting involved in political issues.
What he fails to understand is that, by beingso anti. he's ended up vicariously forcing his listeners into having to agree with him. No one wants to have this shit forced down their throats any more - it's not the 1960s and the age of the protest song is long gone. People want, now, more than ever, the disposable pop / rock song - hence the popularity of that rubbish X-Factor and others of its ilk. Freddie would have been in his absolute element these days.
However, if it IS a good song, then fantastic, but I fear another Nazis 1994 coming.....and what a pile of SHIT that little ditty was.
PauloPanucci · Member since
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[b]david (galashiels) wrote: [/b]
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[i]man, it's a signal that "HALF-QUEEN" can be alive! better just roger, or Brian playing and singing than no one![/i]
mike hunt · Member since
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[b]Togg wrote: [/b]
Personally I prefer most of Roger's solo work to Brian's I find it much more exciting and pushes the boundaries more.
I aways smile a little at his political, views and views on religion,(many of which I share) but somehow he always makes me chuckle
So big thumbs up for a new track, can't wait to see him Live and also another Queen tour in whatever form is great news.
I am extremley interested in what split Brian and Paul? I hope we hear more about that. When and where is the full interview going to be printed? on Thomas's website I guess at somepoint but I assume it was commissioned for a mag?
Which one?
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I'm no big fan of rogers solo stuff, but at least he tries different things and is somewhat interesting. Brian does the same things over and over. Only in rogers dreams could he write and perform like Mr. mercury did on the barcelona album. A totally diiferent league.
john bodega · Member since
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[b]mike hunt wrote:[/b]
Only in rogers dreams could he write and perform like Mr. mercury did on the barcelona album.
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You keep saying "only in X's dreams could Y perform like X on Z album" or things to that effect. [/QUOTE] [/QUOTE]I don't know why Roger Taylor would dream about making something like Barcelona. There's some beautiful writing on there (Guide Me Home *sans* How Can I Go On) and tremendous singing (Barcelona, The Golden Boy) but like ... on top of all that, there's horrid synths when there should be a real orchestra ... in fact it's among the most upsetting instrumentation I've ever heard (especially on "How Can I Go On", it has a somewhat pretty melody but it's drenched in mid-80's click sounds and other atrocities).
I really wish someone would take the Barcelona album, strip it down, and put proper backing tracks to all of the songs. I don't blame Freddie : it was the 80's, everyone was doing it.[/QUOTE]
mike hunt · Member since
ok, only in rogers dreams would he be able to write a song like bo rhap, MOTBQ, ECT.
FriedChicken · Member since
And what makes you think Roger would have aspirations doing so?
Freddie couldn't have written a proper symphony, but does that mean he isn't a good composer?
john bodega · Member since
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[b]mike hunt wrote: [/b]
ok, only in rogers dreams would he be able to write a song like bo rhap, MOTBQ, ECT.[/QUOTE]
But why would any grown human being dream about writing someone else's songs, other than for maybe monetary reasons?? I think those are marvelous songs but I don't wish I'd written them. Why the hell would I want to write like Freddie? So I can become like Valensia? (ie. tribute act). [/QUOTE] [/QUOTE]No thanks!
