ForFreddie. re:
>that was the way my gut was telling me, was right..... whether or not that letter is legitimate...
**facepalm**
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FunLovinCriminal
After a lot of soul-searching I came to the conclusion that Mary Austin actually loved Jim Hutton, because she was such a caring, loving good friend to Freddie that she always felt the need to support all of his former lovers, especially Jim. The same way that she encouraged Phoebe and Joe to stay in Garden Lodge for as long as they liked. Sometimes she feels like wanting to be supportive to all of us. That's why she is planning secretly sneaking into Goldman Sachs to re-arrange the whole global financial system in order to get each and everyone of us 1 million Euros in the coming days. That's how caring and loving she is. No wonder Freddie trusted her. I came to the conclusion that she is so fantastic that she must have written Bohemian Rhapsody all by herself, but being the caring one, she gave it to Freddie. All praise to the altruistic Mary Austin!
Maxmar50
Mary was the love of his life. I think Mary knew Jim was a leech and thats why she treated him as such. I read Jims book and its a poor me book he had no respect for Freddie in talking about him when he died. At least Mary hasnt wrote a tell all book.
ForFreddie
FunLovinCriminal........ GOOD ONE!!
Sweetandtenderhooligan
"Mary was the love of his life. I think Mary knew Jim was a leech and thats why she treated him as such. I read Jims book and its a poor me book he had no respect for Freddie in talking about him when he died. At least Mary hasnt wrote a tell all book. "
Funny how Jim is always called the leech, but Mary is the one who never had a job outside of Freddie after he hit it big. Jim insisted on working and wouldn't move to Munich unless he had a job there.
Mary was jealous he was gay and had gay friends and boyfriends. Period. Have you not heard the numerous interviews Mary has done, as well as inviting photographers into Garden Lodge so she could pose by furniture in a little white dress?
Funny how Jim is always called the leech, but Mary is the one who never had a job outside of Freddie after he hit it big. Jim insisted on working and wouldn't move to Munich unless he had a job there.
Mary was jealous he was gay and had gay friends and boyfriends. Period. Have you not heard the numerous interviews Mary has done, as well as inviting photographers into Garden Lodge so she could pose by furniture in a little white dress?
FreddieDearie
I'm sorry, butmits absolutely ridiculous to posit that Freddie didn't leave Jim the home because HIV.
He could've put it in his will that Jim have the house until he died at which point the home would revert back to the estate.
He could've put it in his will that Jim have the house until he died at which point the home would revert back to the estate.
FreddieDearie
I'm sorry, butmits absolutely ridiculous to posit that Freddie didn't leave Jim the home because HIV.
He could've put it in his will that Jim have the house until he died at which point the home would revert back to the estate.
He could've put it in his will that Jim have the house until he died at which point the home would revert back to the estate.
FreddieDearie
"Funny how Jim is always called the leech, but Mary is the one who never had a job outside of Freddie after he hit it big. Jim insisted on working and wouldn't move to Munich unless he had a job there"
Please stop quoting Huttons book as if it's gospel. Jim wouldn't move to Munich be cause ... job?
1) Hello, he was a barber, he could've gotten a job in Munich. They have hair too
2). Who says .... Jim?
3). Mary RAN Freddie's business. She was literally running a multi-million company and in charge of ALL the employees, including any accountants and lawyers they hired.
Why people have to downgrade her to a gofer when Freddie literally said she handled everything to such a degree all he had to do was "throw his carcass around the stage.". Quote , unquote.
Please stop quoting Huttons book as if it's gospel. Jim wouldn't move to Munich be cause ... job?
1) Hello, he was a barber, he could've gotten a job in Munich. They have hair too
2). Who says .... Jim?
3). Mary RAN Freddie's business. She was literally running a multi-million company and in charge of ALL the employees, including any accountants and lawyers they hired.
Why people have to downgrade her to a gofer when Freddie literally said she handled everything to such a degree all he had to do was "throw his carcass around the stage.". Quote , unquote.
Sweetandtenderhooligan
FreddieDearie- it’s clear you’re one of the Jim haters on Instagram. No real fan would spend so much of their time hating a man Freddie loved. Why don’t you hate the people who were actually horrible to him, like Bill Reid? Is it jealousy? Homophobia? Probably a little or both.
Jim didn’t get a job in Munich because he didn’t speak German. So he kept his job in London.
Mary didn’t run his company. She doesn’t have a college degree or any experience beyond being a shop girl. She was his secretary. His accountant and lawyer ran his company.
Your petty jealousy of Jim is pathetic.
Jim didn’t get a job in Munich because he didn’t speak German. So he kept his job in London.
Mary didn’t run his company. She doesn’t have a college degree or any experience beyond being a shop girl. She was his secretary. His accountant and lawyer ran his company.
Your petty jealousy of Jim is pathetic.
Terri557
Freddie spent practically his whole adult life hiding his homosexuality and his boyfriends from his family (which he never came out according to his mother) and the press and you think he’s going to leave his mansion or his fortune to a man who is HIV+ . That would not be possible. Freddie worked hard to help create a musical empire which would continue as his legacy and he wasn’t going to, maybe even wasn’t allowed to highlight Jim Hutton. The fact that he came out with the statement 24 hours before his death that indeed he had AIDS was a complete shock to both Peter Freestone and Jim Hutton. Freddie was being advised in his professional life by Jim Beach and 2 Queen employed public relations people (forget their names) to keep certain information out of the public and to fabricate an ongoing relationship with Mary Austin (even though both were dating other people and in Mary’s case pregnant with another mans baby). The men of Garden Lodge were homosexuals and at that time (and still today) this could have effected business. Also Joe Fanelli had full blown AIDS and frankly was tossed out by a man (Jim Beach) who would later help set up the Mercury Phoenix Trust to help people with AIDS and spread awareness, what a complete hypocrite. Jim Beach told the guys of Garden Lodge they had to leave in 3 months ON THE DAY OF Freddies funeral! Is he for real? Freddie made it public according to Peter Freestone that the guys could stay as long as feel they needed to before moving on. We’d like to think that each member of Queen have a lot of power but it is the business men behind the music that have it.
Anyway, people who knew Jim Hutton , only good things are said. Only some fans who have never met him have a problem with him. I will take Brian May’s words, Peter Freestones words and Terry Giddings words over any random hate filled fan.
Anyway, people who knew Jim Hutton , only good things are said. Only some fans who have never met him have a problem with him. I will take Brian May’s words, Peter Freestones words and Terry Giddings words over any random hate filled fan.
FreddieDearie
[QUOTE] [b]MisterCosmicc wrote:[/b]
Freddie: I have no friends, only Mary.
Freddie: I stopped having sex.
Don’t take Freddie’s dry sense of humor seriously. [/QUOTE]
Umm, why presume that’s a joke. It’s obvious that Freddie trusted Mary in a way he trusted NO ONE ELSE.
To him being able to trust someone = friend.
There wasn’t anyone else in his life he trusted implicitly.
Secondly. He was diagnosed with AIDS. He knew he was sick during the “Magic Tour”.
Why, would you think it unlikely he became celibate? Because Jim Hutton wrote a book telling the world they had ”Raunchy sex” and that Freddie was the one who typically took it up the ass until it became too painful for him?
Freddie: I have no friends, only Mary.
Freddie: I stopped having sex.
Don’t take Freddie’s dry sense of humor seriously. [/QUOTE]
Umm, why presume that’s a joke. It’s obvious that Freddie trusted Mary in a way he trusted NO ONE ELSE.
To him being able to trust someone = friend.
There wasn’t anyone else in his life he trusted implicitly.
Secondly. He was diagnosed with AIDS. He knew he was sick during the “Magic Tour”.
Why, would you think it unlikely he became celibate? Because Jim Hutton wrote a book telling the world they had ”Raunchy sex” and that Freddie was the one who typically took it up the ass until it became too painful for him?
FreddieDearie
[QUOTE] [b]Terri557 wrote:[/b]
Freddie spent practically his whole adult life hiding his homosexuality and his boyfriends from his family (which he never came out according to his mother) and the press and you think he’s going to leave his mansion or his fortune to a man who is HIV+ . That would not be possible. Freddie worked hard to help create a musical empire which would continue as his legacy and he wasn’t going to, maybe even wasn’t allowed to highlight Jim Hutton. The fact that he came out with the statement 24 hours before his death that indeed he had AIDS was a complete shock to both Peter Freestone and Jim Hutton. Freddie was being advised in his professional life by Jim Beach and 2 Queen employed public relations people (forget their names) to keep certain information out of the public and to fabricate an ongoing relationship with Mary Austin (even though both were dating other people and in Mary’s case pregnant with another mans baby). The men of Garden Lodge were homosexuals and at that time (and still today) this could have effected business. Also Joe Fanelli had full blown AIDS and frankly was tossed out by a man (Jim Beach) who would later help set up the Mercury Phoenix Trust to help people with AIDS and spread awareness, what a complete hypocrite. Jim Beach told the guys of Garden Lodge they had to leave in 3 months ON THE DAY OF Freddies funeral! Is he for real? Freddie made it public according to Peter Freestone that the guys could stay as long as feel they needed to before moving on. We’d like to think that each member of Queen have a lot of power but it is the business men behind the music that have it.
Anyway, people who knew Jim Hutton , only good things are said. Only some fans who have never met him have a problem with him. I will take Brian May’s words, Peter Freestones words and Terry Giddings words over any random hate filled fan.[/QUOTE]
Freddie spent practically his whole adult life hiding his homosexuality and his boyfriends from his family (which he never came out according to his mother) and the press and you think he’s going to leave his mansion or his fortune to a man who is HIV+ . That would not be possible. Freddie worked hard to help create a musical empire which would continue as his legacy and he wasn’t going to, maybe even wasn’t allowed to highlight Jim Hutton. The fact that he came out with the statement 24 hours before his death that indeed he had AIDS was a complete shock to both Peter Freestone and Jim Hutton. Freddie was being advised in his professional life by Jim Beach and 2 Queen employed public relations people (forget their names) to keep certain information out of the public and to fabricate an ongoing relationship with Mary Austin (even though both were dating other people and in Mary’s case pregnant with another mans baby). The men of Garden Lodge were homosexuals and at that time (and still today) this could have effected business. Also Joe Fanelli had full blown AIDS and frankly was tossed out by a man (Jim Beach) who would later help set up the Mercury Phoenix Trust to help people with AIDS and spread awareness, what a complete hypocrite. Jim Beach told the guys of Garden Lodge they had to leave in 3 months ON THE DAY OF Freddies funeral! Is he for real? Freddie made it public according to Peter Freestone that the guys could stay as long as feel they needed to before moving on. We’d like to think that each member of Queen have a lot of power but it is the business men behind the music that have it.
Anyway, people who knew Jim Hutton , only good things are said. Only some fans who have never met him have a problem with him. I will take Brian May’s words, Peter Freestones words and Terry Giddings words over any random hate filled fan.[/QUOTE]
FreddieDearie
[QUOTE] [b]Terri557 wrote:[/b]
Freddie made it public according to Peter Freestone that the guys could stay as long as feel they needed to before moving on. [/QUOTE]
Phoebe never said that. Peter never said he heard Freddie make that claim. He said he was told Freddie said it. Probably by Hutton, and Hutton was a liar.
SERIOUSLY? You actually buy into the claim that Freddie expected a heavily pregnant Mary, who was taking care of a toddler and running his businesses and finances.,,
TO ADOPT 3 MIDDLE-AGED MEN CONTINUING TO PROVIDE THEM FREE ROOM AND BOARD AND EMPLOY THEM IN JOBS SHE DIDNT NEED THEM FOR?.
Seriously people. Use your brains for DISCERNEMENT!
[QUOTE] [b]Terri557 wrote:[/b]
We’d like to think that each member of Queen have a lot of power but it is the business men behind the music that have it. [/QUOTE]
What does that have to do with anything? Jim beach has no power over Brian, Joh and Rogers’s portions of Queen.
[QUOTE] [b]Terri557 wrote:[/b]
Anyway, people who knew Jim Hutton , only good things are said. Only some fans who have never met him have a problem with him.[/QUOTE]
Not true.
From Mercury and Me':
.
"All the time Freddie and I had our loving friendship I lived with certain people [plural, Joe and Phoebe] dismissed me as 'JUS T THE GARDENER..
.
[We] always looked on you as 'just the gardener'..,WE NEVER THOUGHTOF YOU AS FREDDIE'S BOYFRIEND.” — Joe Fanelli [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE] [b]Terri557 wrote:[/b]
I will take Brian May’s words, Peter Freestones words and Terry Giddings words over any random hate filled fan.[/QUOTE]
I’ll take the word from the people who LIVED with Hutton and Freddie and saw how they ACTUALLY lived and related, instead of someone trying to make money off the “fantasy”.
Freddie did not socialize with Brian or Roger or John. He purposely compartmentalized his private life and kept it from the band. Brian was not very privy to Freddie’s relationships.
“Jimmy used to get drunk and embarrass everybody and that’s why HE WAS NEVER PRESENT at a lot of the things he claimed to be. ~ Mike Moran
“...Several of Freddie’s friends have a question some of Hutton‘s more over the top anecdotes one said “I’m surprised Jimmy could have stayed sober long enough to have remembered some of those things he did with Freddie.” David Brett Freddie Mercury an intimate biography
”Jim...drank like a fish and when drunk, he was an ugly drunk.' ~ Jacky Gunn [Head of Queen Fan Club
“Jim was particularly embarrassing. He would say all sorts of dirty things in front of little girls... He started screaming and there was almost a fight. He was very nasty. ”~ Jim Jenkins Official Queen Archivist
[/QUOTE]
Freddie made it public according to Peter Freestone that the guys could stay as long as feel they needed to before moving on. [/QUOTE]
Phoebe never said that. Peter never said he heard Freddie make that claim. He said he was told Freddie said it. Probably by Hutton, and Hutton was a liar.
SERIOUSLY? You actually buy into the claim that Freddie expected a heavily pregnant Mary, who was taking care of a toddler and running his businesses and finances.,,
TO ADOPT 3 MIDDLE-AGED MEN CONTINUING TO PROVIDE THEM FREE ROOM AND BOARD AND EMPLOY THEM IN JOBS SHE DIDNT NEED THEM FOR?.
Seriously people. Use your brains for DISCERNEMENT!
[QUOTE] [b]Terri557 wrote:[/b]
We’d like to think that each member of Queen have a lot of power but it is the business men behind the music that have it. [/QUOTE]
What does that have to do with anything? Jim beach has no power over Brian, Joh and Rogers’s portions of Queen.
[QUOTE] [b]Terri557 wrote:[/b]
Anyway, people who knew Jim Hutton , only good things are said. Only some fans who have never met him have a problem with him.[/QUOTE]
Not true.
From Mercury and Me':
.
"All the time Freddie and I had our loving friendship I lived with certain people [plural, Joe and Phoebe] dismissed me as 'JUS T THE GARDENER..
.
[We] always looked on you as 'just the gardener'..,WE NEVER THOUGHTOF YOU AS FREDDIE'S BOYFRIEND.” — Joe Fanelli [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE] [b]Terri557 wrote:[/b]
I will take Brian May’s words, Peter Freestones words and Terry Giddings words over any random hate filled fan.[/QUOTE]
I’ll take the word from the people who LIVED with Hutton and Freddie and saw how they ACTUALLY lived and related, instead of someone trying to make money off the “fantasy”.
Freddie did not socialize with Brian or Roger or John. He purposely compartmentalized his private life and kept it from the band. Brian was not very privy to Freddie’s relationships.
“Jimmy used to get drunk and embarrass everybody and that’s why HE WAS NEVER PRESENT at a lot of the things he claimed to be. ~ Mike Moran
“...Several of Freddie’s friends have a question some of Hutton‘s more over the top anecdotes one said “I’m surprised Jimmy could have stayed sober long enough to have remembered some of those things he did with Freddie.” David Brett Freddie Mercury an intimate biography
”Jim...drank like a fish and when drunk, he was an ugly drunk.' ~ Jacky Gunn [Head of Queen Fan Club
“Jim was particularly embarrassing. He would say all sorts of dirty things in front of little girls... He started screaming and there was almost a fight. He was very nasty. ”~ Jim Jenkins Official Queen Archivist
[/QUOTE]
FreddieDearie
[QUOTE] [b]Sweetandtenderhooligan wrote:[/b]
FreddieDearie- it’s clear you’re one of the Jim haters on Instagram. No real fan would spend so much of their time hating a man Freddie loved. Why don’t you hate the people who were actually horrible to him, like Bill Reid? [/QUOTE]
Hutton assaulted Freddie, Assault is not love.
When you start turning Bill Reid or any of other of Freddie’s abusive boyfriends into your Lord and Savior the way you have have Hutton, I promise to fight back in that too.
However I HAVE ”hated” on his other abusers many times,
[QUOTE] [b]Sweetandtenderhooligan wrote:[/b]
Jim didn’t get a job in Munich because he didn’t speak German. So he kept his job in London. [/QUOTE]
What is your point?
[QUOTE] [b]Sweetandtenderhooligan wrote:[/b]
Mary didn’t run his company. She doesn’t have a college degree or any experience beyond being a shop girl. She was his secretary. His accountant and lawyer ran his company. [/QUOTE]
No, Sweetie, look it up. He made her ”Company Secretary” that is DIFFERENT from an admin. Asst. Type secretary.
He made her an OFFICER of his companies, And she functioned as his coo/cfo.
Freddie made Mary an officer of his companies. She RAN his companies for him. To the point that Freddie said: ”All I have to do is throw my carcass around on stage...”
[QUOTE] [b]ThunderGod wrote:[/b]
Freddie left most of the business stuff to...MARY” [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE] [b]Freddie Mercury said:
[Mary] works in my organisation and looks after my money side and all my possessions. She's in charge of the chauffeurs, maids, gardeners, accountants and lawyers. [/b][/QUOTE]
While Freddie was sick he could count on Mary to keep things running for him. She managed all his finances so he wouldn't have to worry about running out of money for his private medical care.
[QUOTE] [b]David Evans Said:[/b]
Freddie never had much idea of money. Mary always took care of that. Always. Indeed as late as 1991, he confided to me that he was very worried about running short of money as his medical treatments appeared prohibitively expensive. I assured him that even without studying his bank balances, he had absolutely no need to be concerned and that Mary would have told him if he was at all a candidate for penury." [/QUOTE]
She also managed his multi million dollar Art collection.
[QUOTE] [b]ThunderGod wrote:[/b] Artwork was more Mary’s realm. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE] [b]Sweetandtenderhooligan wrote:[/b]
Your petty jealousy of Jim is pathetic. [/QUOTE]
Your ignorance on these topics is pathetic.
[QUOTE] [b]Freddie Mercury Said:
"Sometimes a good friend is much more valuable than a lover. Apart from Mary I don’t have any real friends.
We look after each other and that's a wonderful form of love. I might have all the problems in the world, but I have Mary and that gets me through.
Our love affair ended in tears but a deep bond grew out of it, and that's something nobody can take away from us. It's unreachable.
All my lovers asked me why they couldn’t replace Mary, but it’s simply impossible. To me, it was a marriage.
Mary is one of my closest friends in the world. Ours is a pure friendship and a friendship of the highest standard. It’s an instinctive thing. I have built up an immense bond with
Mary. We love each other very much and look after each other. I don't want anybody else.
I open up to her more than anybody else. We have gone through a lot of ups and downs in our time together, but that has made our relationship all the stronger. I know a lot of people find it hard to understand our relationship. Other people who come into our lives just have to accept it.
I think Mary has gone through just about everything with me. She's about the only person I can think of. She has the depth and the quah‘ties to adapt to me and talk to me about very serious things. Even if we are not together at the time, I talk to her a lot on the phone.
I treat Mary as my common-law wife and we’re getting on ?ne. It's where the heart is that matters. We're happy with each other and it doesn't matter what other people think.
It's a God given situation. Nobody should tell us what to do. We believe in each other, so fuck everybody else. [/b][/QUOTE]
FreddieDearie- it’s clear you’re one of the Jim haters on Instagram. No real fan would spend so much of their time hating a man Freddie loved. Why don’t you hate the people who were actually horrible to him, like Bill Reid? [/QUOTE]
Hutton assaulted Freddie, Assault is not love.
When you start turning Bill Reid or any of other of Freddie’s abusive boyfriends into your Lord and Savior the way you have have Hutton, I promise to fight back in that too.
However I HAVE ”hated” on his other abusers many times,
[QUOTE] [b]Sweetandtenderhooligan wrote:[/b]
Jim didn’t get a job in Munich because he didn’t speak German. So he kept his job in London. [/QUOTE]
What is your point?
[QUOTE] [b]Sweetandtenderhooligan wrote:[/b]
Mary didn’t run his company. She doesn’t have a college degree or any experience beyond being a shop girl. She was his secretary. His accountant and lawyer ran his company. [/QUOTE]
No, Sweetie, look it up. He made her ”Company Secretary” that is DIFFERENT from an admin. Asst. Type secretary.
He made her an OFFICER of his companies, And she functioned as his coo/cfo.
Freddie made Mary an officer of his companies. She RAN his companies for him. To the point that Freddie said: ”All I have to do is throw my carcass around on stage...”
[QUOTE] [b]ThunderGod wrote:[/b]
Freddie left most of the business stuff to...MARY” [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE] [b]Freddie Mercury said:
[Mary] works in my organisation and looks after my money side and all my possessions. She's in charge of the chauffeurs, maids, gardeners, accountants and lawyers. [/b][/QUOTE]
While Freddie was sick he could count on Mary to keep things running for him. She managed all his finances so he wouldn't have to worry about running out of money for his private medical care.
[QUOTE] [b]David Evans Said:[/b]
Freddie never had much idea of money. Mary always took care of that. Always. Indeed as late as 1991, he confided to me that he was very worried about running short of money as his medical treatments appeared prohibitively expensive. I assured him that even without studying his bank balances, he had absolutely no need to be concerned and that Mary would have told him if he was at all a candidate for penury." [/QUOTE]
She also managed his multi million dollar Art collection.
[QUOTE] [b]ThunderGod wrote:[/b] Artwork was more Mary’s realm. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE] [b]Sweetandtenderhooligan wrote:[/b]
Your petty jealousy of Jim is pathetic. [/QUOTE]
Your ignorance on these topics is pathetic.
[QUOTE] [b]Freddie Mercury Said:
"Sometimes a good friend is much more valuable than a lover. Apart from Mary I don’t have any real friends.
We look after each other and that's a wonderful form of love. I might have all the problems in the world, but I have Mary and that gets me through.
Our love affair ended in tears but a deep bond grew out of it, and that's something nobody can take away from us. It's unreachable.
All my lovers asked me why they couldn’t replace Mary, but it’s simply impossible. To me, it was a marriage.
Mary is one of my closest friends in the world. Ours is a pure friendship and a friendship of the highest standard. It’s an instinctive thing. I have built up an immense bond with
Mary. We love each other very much and look after each other. I don't want anybody else.
I open up to her more than anybody else. We have gone through a lot of ups and downs in our time together, but that has made our relationship all the stronger. I know a lot of people find it hard to understand our relationship. Other people who come into our lives just have to accept it.
I think Mary has gone through just about everything with me. She's about the only person I can think of. She has the depth and the quah‘ties to adapt to me and talk to me about very serious things. Even if we are not together at the time, I talk to her a lot on the phone.
I treat Mary as my common-law wife and we’re getting on ?ne. It's where the heart is that matters. We're happy with each other and it doesn't matter what other people think.
It's a God given situation. Nobody should tell us what to do. We believe in each other, so fuck everybody else. [/b][/QUOTE]
thomasquinn 32989
You need to seek help from a mental health professional. That's not a slur, that's serious advice.