Is there a statement of Mary Austin about Jim Hutton´s death

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[b]Sir GH wrote:[/b]



[b]  The fact that Jim cashed in by writing a tell-all book where he bashes Mary says all we need to know about him.[/b]

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Mmm... I'm not saying I disagree, exactly, but that's a bit close minded.  There's a difference between fact and truth ...  the book may have been a "tell-all" but us in the public still don't know everything there is to know.  
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[/QUOTE]The book may have been in bad taste in our eyes, but ...  eh.  It wouldn't be entirely fair for any of us to assume the position of final arbiter over Hutton's motivations for what he did.




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She was in that time and really knows exactly was happened. She was with Mr. Mercury before was famous, a friend for long time, there must a reason he don't like Jim Hutton. When you died you give more to the person that deserve it.

Freddie said in an interview that he could never fall in love with a man the same way he did with Mary and Jim knew that and Freddie always took Mary to events where the press would be instead of Jim and Jim obviously resented that

Mary was there for freddie from before Queen were famous and she was the love of Freddies life, Freddie may have loved Jim but he was not in love with him

Her statement wasn't a written one but a video of her dancing on Jim's grave.

That bit above written by me saying I can't believe the awful things said about Jim etc., was written in January about things said which were much worse than what's been put above.  I don't know why it's suddenly been posted again.

Incidentally, the reason Freddie didn't leave Jim the house could be because both Freddie and Jim thought Jim would die soon. So there'd be no point.

freddiefan91 wrote: Freddie said in an interview that he could never fall in love with a man the same way he did with Mary and Jim knew that and Freddie always took Mary to events where the press would be instead of Jim and Jim obviously resented that

Mary was there for freddie from before Queen were famous and she was the love of Freddies life, Freddie may have loved Jim but he was not in love with him
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Wow how much wishful thinking is there in those comments ...

it just shows how everybody has a different opinion on Mary and JIm whether they are right or wrong the only people that really know what went on at that time are Mary and Jim and tbh im inclined to side with Mary on what went on

plumrach wrote: it just shows how everybody has a different opinion on Mary and JIm whether they are right or wrong the only people that really know what went on at that time are Mary and Jim and tbh im inclined to side with Mary on what went on
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Joe, Jim, and Peter took care of Freddie every single day while Freddie was seriously ill.
Joe and Jim were HIV + at this time and had to worry and deal with that during this same
time period.

The way that the three of them were treated by Mary (and Jim Beach) is sickening.

To me, from what I've read about Mary, she always came off as a bitch.

Karma is truly a bitch.  When the three of them were forced from Garden Lodge
they were no longer prisoners.  One a daily basis they weren't haunted by Freddie
by being in Freddie's house.  Mary is the one who became the prisoner.  She
got what she deserved.

From what ive heard Joe went to Freddie and said he was concerned about what might happen after Freddie died so bought Joe a house before he died so he wouldnt of been homeless whatever happened anyway and Jim was also having a house built partly paid for by Freddie and if Freddie really wanted them to stay at Garden Lodge he would of got something legally down on paper like Jim supposedly asked him to do but Freddie chose not to do that

Dont forget that all 3 of them were give half a mil each as well so its not like they were left with nothing and the fact that Jim got the same as the workers maybe says something about what Freddie really thought of Jim

Mary was well within her rights to give them notice to leave

Everyone is entitled to their own opionions on the subject i guess

Ok, so I just finished reading Hutton's "Mercury and Me". I was appauled by what Mary put him and the other residents of Garden Lodge through after Mr. Mercury's death at 6:48pm on November 24th, 1991. For those who aren't aware, Jim, as well as Joe Fanelli, Peter Freestone, etc. were forced to leave the home 3 months after Freddie's death- because there were no written documentation of Freddie saying that they could stay, although he did say that. So they were all forced to leave their home of many years, while Mary got to have the place all for herself. She also changed the house a little and didn't respect Jim or the others. She made them take any gifts they had given Freddie- she said or else she would sell them. They were no longer welcome for holidays at the lodge and they were forced to take many memories out of there safe spots. Jim once confronted her that he lost his man, him home, his things, and even his life. When he calmed down he apologized to Mary for exploding on her. She had no reaction. She never really contacted him again- even though Jim tried so hard to reach out to her- he even sent postcards to her from trips. From what I understand, Mary didn't like Jim- Jim said himself that it came as no surprise to him that she didn't like him. Based on these facts and other pretty rude and just plain mean acts she has pulled on Hutton, I personally don't think she had much of a reaction about his death- as sad as that may be. I always adored Mary for still loving Freddie as a friend after he had been gay throughout their relationship- but after the last few chapters of Hutton's book, all I can say is "Wow, I am shocked". Sorry this was sort of like a review rather than an answer, but oh well. (All credits on info to "Mercury and Me") Read it if you disagree with me ;)

And those bashing Jim/ Mary- honestly, I don't think it's right. They are both good people I think and even if they had beef between eachother I firmly believe that they were always respectful and loving towards Freddie and that's all that matters. He adored them both and I think they both were the only real relationships in Freddie's life (love wise) In that Freddie and Jim did refer to eachother as "husbands" and they had wedding bands, while I think if Freddie wasn't gay or bisexual he would have married Mary- in that they did move in together and lasted 6 loving years. Just my opinion- and yess I do realize I sort of bashed Mary in my post above, but that was kind of in the heat of the moment just after finishing my book, and when it comes to Freddie I think she was an amazing friend and lover for him and I think she taught him a lot.

I spoke to Peter Freestone about this briefly in 2010:

"Hey Peter,
I'm a big fan of Freddies and recently purchased the late Jim Hutton's book 'Mercury & Me'. It was a very interesting read and gave a rather special insight into the life of Freddie. However, the ending where he discusses Mary Austin's behaviour was a little troubling. It seemed awfully harsh and completely the opposite of how Freddie would have wanted his closest friends to continue. In some ways it may have been a blessing in disguise to have been kicked out of Garden Lodge so soon, so you Jim and Joe weren't surrounded by the house you shared with Freddie, allowing you to maybe move on slightly easier. However, I can also imagine it to be an unnecessary and unfair inconvenience. What if you didn't want to move on yet? What if you felt in March 1992, it wasn't time, not yet, you weren't ready?

It's a shame as when you watch documentaries about Freddie, Mary always comes across as the adorable girlfriend who stood by her man, and allowed him his freedom. So I've always had an admiration for her. However, her behaviour after Freddie passed on sounds like a nightmare. So I was wondering if her attitudes have changed since the early nineties and did she warm to Jim at all before he died?

Thankyou

Luke"

"As far as I am aware Mary's feelings never changed. Saying that, she was in a very uncomfortable position after Freddie died. Mary was a beneficiary of Freddie's will and the executors had control of everything and to let his will progress through probate, it was felt that Garden Lodge could not have tenants living there.

Things are very rarely 'black and white'. Life continues through many shades of grey!!
I hope this helps.

Take care
Peter"

[QUOTE] [b]LittleSilhouetto wrote:[/b]
That bit above written by me saying I can't believe the awful things said about Jim etc., was written in January about things said which were much worse than what's been put above.  I don't know why it's suddenly been posted again.Incidentally, the reason Freddie didn't leave Jim the house could be because both Freddie and Jim thought Jim would die soon. So there'd be no point.[/QUOTE]

Very good point, that would make sense. Who knows the real side it's all how each person perceived it. Whether there were any ulterior motives by any of them. Jim didn't seem like a free-loading gold diggin kind of guy. Freddie chose to be with him. Don't know why Mary had anomosity toward him, she knew she was getting the house and more way before hand. I respect that she was always quiet, but I don't knock Jim for writing a book. As a fan whatever Freddie's feelings were for them and whomever he chose to bestow his fortune I have to respect.

she paraphrased freddie from what i heard. she said:

"hey-hey-hey, hey-ho, now most of you know that i was bequeathed some of Freddie's property in the last week...for what it's worth i'm gonna be doing a bit of redocorating, in the dark black dulux category - whatever you call it. that doesn't mean i've lost all my pastel shades, ok? i mean, it's only a bloody mansion house. people get so excited about these things"

She said "Yeah, that's right. I've still got those original lyrics of Freddie's to Bohemian Rhapsody that he gave to Jim that I refused to give back after I tossed Jim's ass out of here. So?? Wanna make something of it???"

Or something along those lines - I can't remember exactly...