Mooghead is SPOT ON in his critique of me.
I bring absolutely nothing to this board... except the Twice Baked Potato recipee a few years ago.
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Goodoldfashionedloverboy
What about the concert in Knewborth Park 1986? Will be whether this concert released officially?
Queen Archivist
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[b]community wrote: [/b]
What about the concert in Knewborth Park 1986? Will be whether this concert released officially?
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I would like to tell you, but I can't. I'm not allowed. Is this helpful?
I like microwave's comment above. Funny.
I'm funny as well you know. Oh yes. VERY amusing, me.
Did I tell you I was listening to a concert from 1976 we didn't know existed, last night, in the studio with Pete?
I can't tell you about it coz it's secret, but it was very very very very a lot very very exciting and rare. I really think you lot will hear it one day, but I can't swear to that. I have been told I'm a carrot-dangling brute who is very annoying. That cannot be right. Take it back.
[b]community wrote: [/b]
What about the concert in Knewborth Park 1986? Will be whether this concert released officially?
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I would like to tell you, but I can't. I'm not allowed. Is this helpful?
I like microwave's comment above. Funny.
I'm funny as well you know. Oh yes. VERY amusing, me.
Did I tell you I was listening to a concert from 1976 we didn't know existed, last night, in the studio with Pete?
I can't tell you about it coz it's secret, but it was very very very very a lot very very exciting and rare. I really think you lot will hear it one day, but I can't swear to that. I have been told I'm a carrot-dangling brute who is very annoying. That cannot be right. Take it back.
Mkls
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Did I tell you I was listening to a concert from 1976 we didn't know existed, last night, in the studio with Pete?
I can't tell you about it coz it's secret, but it was very very very very a lot very very exciting and rare. I really think you lot will hear it one day, but I can't swear to that. I have been told I'm a carrot-dangling brute who is very annoying. That cannot be right. Take it back."
Fortunately today, most of QZers will be listening to a concert from 1977 we didn't know existed.
Did I tell you I was listening to a concert from 1976 we didn't know existed, last night, in the studio with Pete?
I can't tell you about it coz it's secret, but it was very very very very a lot very very exciting and rare. I really think you lot will hear it one day, but I can't swear to that. I have been told I'm a carrot-dangling brute who is very annoying. That cannot be right. Take it back."
Fortunately today, most of QZers will be listening to a concert from 1977 we didn't know existed.
Micrówave
Actually, Greg, I OWN a complete, full length show from 1973 that I am listening to right now. Extremely raw, but extremely awesome.
It's nice that we all seem to have a lot of live shows. It would be even nicer to talk about the content sometime.
It's nice that we all seem to have a lot of live shows. It would be even nicer to talk about the content sometime.
lalaalalaa
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[b]Queen Archivist wrote: [/b]
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[b]community wrote: [/b]
What about the concert in Knewborth Park 1986? Will be whether this concert released officially?
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I would like to tell you, but I can't. I'm not allowed. Is this helpful?
I like microwave's comment above. Funny.
I'm funny as well you know. Oh yes. VERY amusing, me.
Did I tell you I was listening to a concert from 1976 we didn't know existed, last night, in the studio with Pete?
I can't tell you about it coz it's secret, but it was very very very very a lot very very exciting and rare. I really think you lot will hear it one day, but I can't swear to that. I have been told I'm a carrot-dangling brute who is very annoying. That cannot be right. Take it back.
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Are you allowed to tell us if Brian May really exists?
EDIT- What's the worst thing that could happen to you if you let some of this stuff "leak"?
[b]Queen Archivist wrote: [/b]
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[b]community wrote: [/b]
What about the concert in Knewborth Park 1986? Will be whether this concert released officially?
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I would like to tell you, but I can't. I'm not allowed. Is this helpful?
I like microwave's comment above. Funny.
I'm funny as well you know. Oh yes. VERY amusing, me.
Did I tell you I was listening to a concert from 1976 we didn't know existed, last night, in the studio with Pete?
I can't tell you about it coz it's secret, but it was very very very very a lot very very exciting and rare. I really think you lot will hear it one day, but I can't swear to that. I have been told I'm a carrot-dangling brute who is very annoying. That cannot be right. Take it back.
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Are you allowed to tell us if Brian May really exists?
EDIT- What's the worst thing that could happen to you if you let some of this stuff "leak"?
The Real Wizard
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[b]Micrówave wrote: [/b]
Jimi Hendrix supposedly has nearly 300 unfinished demos. Jimi Hendrix was/is/and will always be in more demand than Queen. So why hasn't someone capitalized on that? It's taken 35 years to get ONE track out. [/QUOTE]
Are you sure that's accurate? There have been 5 posthumous Hendrix albums with new studio material released in the last 35 years, and another one is due out next month.
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Jimi Hendrix supposedly has nearly 300 unfinished demos. Jimi Hendrix was/is/and will always be in more demand than Queen. So why hasn't someone capitalized on that? It's taken 35 years to get ONE track out. [/QUOTE]
Are you sure that's accurate? There have been 5 posthumous Hendrix albums with new studio material released in the last 35 years, and another one is due out next month.
Lisser :)
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I have been here for lots of years and microwave is one of those who talks a lot but has nothing to say... like he wants to get his thread count up because it is all he has in his life.
Ignorance is bliss.
He loves it when you bite.
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I've been on QZ going on 7 years and I honestly have no clue who you are or that you even existed on this site. I've never seen you contribute anything at all except for calling Michael Jackson a twisted pedo. Michael Jackson wrote music, wrote lyrics, performed, directed, produced, pioneered, was named the greatest entertainer by Guiness, etc., Even if he were a twisted pedo, which he was not according to the U.S. Court system, does that not mean he wasn't exceptionally talented and that his music was not worthy of listening to? Is it right for you to hush people and say "who cares about Freddie and some twisted pedo singing together?" I don't think it is right for you to say that. I think that is ignorance.
If you like music, like the music, listen to it, enjoy it. There is no need for name calling and false accusations. Michael Jackson was found not guilty. There is no doubt he was exceptional but we did not "know" him, it's not for any of us to say and who cares if he's odd anyway? He's still the biggest star we will all ever see in our lifetime. The fans have the music and that's we should go by. All of this paparazzi stalker shit is ludicrous.
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I have been here for lots of years and microwave is one of those who talks a lot but has nothing to say... like he wants to get his thread count up because it is all he has in his life.
Ignorance is bliss.
He loves it when you bite.
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I've been on QZ going on 7 years and I honestly have no clue who you are or that you even existed on this site. I've never seen you contribute anything at all except for calling Michael Jackson a twisted pedo. Michael Jackson wrote music, wrote lyrics, performed, directed, produced, pioneered, was named the greatest entertainer by Guiness, etc., Even if he were a twisted pedo, which he was not according to the U.S. Court system, does that not mean he wasn't exceptionally talented and that his music was not worthy of listening to? Is it right for you to hush people and say "who cares about Freddie and some twisted pedo singing together?" I don't think it is right for you to say that. I think that is ignorance.
If you like music, like the music, listen to it, enjoy it. There is no need for name calling and false accusations. Michael Jackson was found not guilty. There is no doubt he was exceptional but we did not "know" him, it's not for any of us to say and who cares if he's odd anyway? He's still the biggest star we will all ever see in our lifetime. The fans have the music and that's we should go by. All of this paparazzi stalker shit is ludicrous.
Sebastian
Lisser: In some ways I agree. While I don't think a person found 'not guilty' is necessarily 'not guilty' (especially if that person's got enough money to [i]buy[/i] that 'not guilty'), watch the second minute of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0h0qZCjR_k
Now, a person who didn't know Sheldon (a fictitious character of course, but for the sake of argument) and witnessed only that minute, would instantly think of him as a twisted paedo. However, those who know him are more than aware that molesting children would not be the last thing in his mind: it's not even in his mind! Let's say Leonard didn't interrupt him and Sheldon ended up inviting that girl to his flat and after watching a Curious George cartoon they fell asleep in his couch (he's far too obsessive to sleep anywhere but in a bed but again for the sake of argument....). Again, nothing would happen, but people would suspect otherwise.
Maybe that's (at least partly) what happened to MJ: sharing a bed with some kids, while extremely unusual from a statistical POV (even many parents tend not to share beds with their children after they reach certain age), is not necessarily 'sick' or 'twisted' if Michael hadn't got any obscure intention. We'll never know as we can't read minds.
At the end of the day, he may have been innocent and just paid a very high price for his (weird but totally harmless) eccentricities, [i]or[/i] he may have been guilty and bought his freedom, [i]or[/i] a bit of both, etc.
But I agree with your main point: wonderful musician, and deeply missed.
Now, a person who didn't know Sheldon (a fictitious character of course, but for the sake of argument) and witnessed only that minute, would instantly think of him as a twisted paedo. However, those who know him are more than aware that molesting children would not be the last thing in his mind: it's not even in his mind! Let's say Leonard didn't interrupt him and Sheldon ended up inviting that girl to his flat and after watching a Curious George cartoon they fell asleep in his couch (he's far too obsessive to sleep anywhere but in a bed but again for the sake of argument....). Again, nothing would happen, but people would suspect otherwise.
Maybe that's (at least partly) what happened to MJ: sharing a bed with some kids, while extremely unusual from a statistical POV (even many parents tend not to share beds with their children after they reach certain age), is not necessarily 'sick' or 'twisted' if Michael hadn't got any obscure intention. We'll never know as we can't read minds.
At the end of the day, he may have been innocent and just paid a very high price for his (weird but totally harmless) eccentricities, [i]or[/i] he may have been guilty and bought his freedom, [i]or[/i] a bit of both, etc.
But I agree with your main point: wonderful musician, and deeply missed.
Lisser
Seb, I'll have to watch that at home. I can't watch youtube videos at work since they are blocked. Thanks in advance for it.
To add a few comments to anyone who wants to listen:
I do not disagree that sharing a bed with children who aren't your close relatives (niece, nephew), or your own children is odd and just not a good idea to do however it has no bearing on whether or not I like Michael Jackson's music. This is my main stressor. While I do like to point out that he was found not guilty, bc he was, I do that in the hopes that people might think before they say the usual "whacko jacko pedofile" stuff. It's over and he was proven not guilty of the accusations. Of course it's also over bc he's dead, which thank you pittrek for pointing that out in another thread, I know that quite well. I'm also aware that everyday innocent people are proven guilty and guilty people are proven innocent. I am not the judge or jury in any of those cases so I can't do anything about that. No system is perfect, the fact remains that he was found not guilty.
I agree there were more things that were odd about Michael Jackson than there were "normal." But if you are the most famous person on earth and you sell more records than anyone else has ever done, if you do the things and accomplish the things that Michael Jackson was able to do that no one else that walks the earth has done, you're alone, you're isolated and probably not many people will be able to relate to you or share your feelings on things. This is how I think I would feel if I were to put myself in the shoes of someone as accomplished as Michael Jackson. I can only pretend to act like I might know.
Regardless, whatever he did in his personal life would never change the fact that I love listening to his music and watching him perform. I'm a fan, not his friend, not his judge. I don't think anyone on this board is anything more than a fan, if even that either so no one has a right to pass judgement. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and I respect that right very much, but I would also like to express my opinions too.
If everyone let their personal beliefs/morals dictate which people they liked musically or to watch on film, there would be no one left to entertain. Who is perfect and shares all of your same values? People listen to the music that they prefer and that they like. If you don't agree with homosexuality, do you not listen to Queen bc Freddie liked men?
To add a few comments to anyone who wants to listen:
I do not disagree that sharing a bed with children who aren't your close relatives (niece, nephew), or your own children is odd and just not a good idea to do however it has no bearing on whether or not I like Michael Jackson's music. This is my main stressor. While I do like to point out that he was found not guilty, bc he was, I do that in the hopes that people might think before they say the usual "whacko jacko pedofile" stuff. It's over and he was proven not guilty of the accusations. Of course it's also over bc he's dead, which thank you pittrek for pointing that out in another thread, I know that quite well. I'm also aware that everyday innocent people are proven guilty and guilty people are proven innocent. I am not the judge or jury in any of those cases so I can't do anything about that. No system is perfect, the fact remains that he was found not guilty.
I agree there were more things that were odd about Michael Jackson than there were "normal." But if you are the most famous person on earth and you sell more records than anyone else has ever done, if you do the things and accomplish the things that Michael Jackson was able to do that no one else that walks the earth has done, you're alone, you're isolated and probably not many people will be able to relate to you or share your feelings on things. This is how I think I would feel if I were to put myself in the shoes of someone as accomplished as Michael Jackson. I can only pretend to act like I might know.
Regardless, whatever he did in his personal life would never change the fact that I love listening to his music and watching him perform. I'm a fan, not his friend, not his judge. I don't think anyone on this board is anything more than a fan, if even that either so no one has a right to pass judgement. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and I respect that right very much, but I would also like to express my opinions too.
If everyone let their personal beliefs/morals dictate which people they liked musically or to watch on film, there would be no one left to entertain. Who is perfect and shares all of your same values? People listen to the music that they prefer and that they like. If you don't agree with homosexuality, do you not listen to Queen bc Freddie liked men?
lalaalalaa
Let's try to think about how hard Michael's childhood was like. He took a lot of crap from his father. It's hard to be a normal person when your parents aren't good examples.
Sebastian
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Let's try to think about how hard Michael's childhood was like. He took a lot of crap from his father. It's hard to be a normal person when your parents aren't good examples.[/QUOTE]
I disagree: now, I don't, can't and am not interested to know whether Michael was a child molester or not, but if he were, should we excuse him because of his childhood?
If so, we should forgive every criminal, because they all had traumas and had 'reasons' (good or not) to do what they did. Everybody should be allow to kill, rape, steal, yell, hit, abuse, defraud, cheat, etc. because all of us, for some extent, have faced traumatic events.
Paraphrasing the Eagles, 'the world doesn't owe you a thing, get over it!'
[b]lalaalalaa wrote: [/b]
Let's try to think about how hard Michael's childhood was like. He took a lot of crap from his father. It's hard to be a normal person when your parents aren't good examples.[/QUOTE]
I disagree: now, I don't, can't and am not interested to know whether Michael was a child molester or not, but if he were, should we excuse him because of his childhood?
If so, we should forgive every criminal, because they all had traumas and had 'reasons' (good or not) to do what they did. Everybody should be allow to kill, rape, steal, yell, hit, abuse, defraud, cheat, etc. because all of us, for some extent, have faced traumatic events.
Paraphrasing the Eagles, 'the world doesn't owe you a thing, get over it!'
The Real Wizard
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[b]Sebastian wrote: [/b]
If so, we should forgive every criminal, because they all had traumas and had 'reasons' (good or not) to do what they did. Everybody should be allow to kill, rape, steal, yell, hit, abuse, defraud, cheat, etc. because all of us, for some extent, have faced traumatic events.
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That's correct, for criminals. Michael Jackson wasn't a criminal.
[b]Sebastian wrote: [/b]
If so, we should forgive every criminal, because they all had traumas and had 'reasons' (good or not) to do what they did. Everybody should be allow to kill, rape, steal, yell, hit, abuse, defraud, cheat, etc. because all of us, for some extent, have faced traumatic events.
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That's correct, for criminals. Michael Jackson wasn't a criminal.
lalaalalaa
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[b]Sebastian wrote: [/b]
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[b]lalaalalaa wrote: [/b]
Let's try to think about how hard Michael's childhood was like. He took a lot of crap from his father. It's hard to be a normal person when your parents aren't good examples.
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I disagree: now, I don't, can't and am not interested to know whether Michael was a child molester or not, but if he were, should we excuse him because of his childhood?
If so, we should forgive every criminal, because they all had traumas and had 'reasons' (good or not) to do what they did. Everybody should be allow to kill, rape, steal, yell, hit, abuse, defraud, cheat, etc. because all of us, for some extent, have faced traumatic events.
Paraphrasing the Eagles, 'the world doesn't owe you a thing, get over it!'
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I'm not saying we should excuse this behavior. We should try to help these people understand better.
[b]Sebastian wrote: [/b]
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[b]lalaalalaa wrote: [/b]
Let's try to think about how hard Michael's childhood was like. He took a lot of crap from his father. It's hard to be a normal person when your parents aren't good examples.
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I disagree: now, I don't, can't and am not interested to know whether Michael was a child molester or not, but if he were, should we excuse him because of his childhood?
If so, we should forgive every criminal, because they all had traumas and had 'reasons' (good or not) to do what they did. Everybody should be allow to kill, rape, steal, yell, hit, abuse, defraud, cheat, etc. because all of us, for some extent, have faced traumatic events.
Paraphrasing the Eagles, 'the world doesn't owe you a thing, get over it!'
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I'm not saying we should excuse this behavior. We should try to help these people understand better.
The Real Wizard
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[b]lalaalalaa wrote: [/b]
I'm not saying we should excuse this behavior. We should try to help these people understand better.
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How about we show some empathy for them and understand THEM better?
Getting to the roots of crime is how you solve it, not by demonizing them and simply telling them to be more like us.
[b]lalaalalaa wrote: [/b]
I'm not saying we should excuse this behavior. We should try to help these people understand better.
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How about we show some empathy for them and understand THEM better?
Getting to the roots of crime is how you solve it, not by demonizing them and simply telling them to be more like us.