Queen I vs Led Zep I

My God...

Piper better than Obscured??

hahah..

And Division Bell is a great album with amazing songs on it: Coming back to life, Keep talking, Poles apart, What do you want from me (only take the middle eight and is better than anything on Piper), A GREAT DAY FOR FREEDOM.-

You´re deaf.

xD

p.s:

Queen didn´t have the freedom to record their first album in the way they wanted to.

May sound like an excuse, but it isn´t. Just look at Queen II, there are months between the 2 albums.

actually your dumb - I never said piper was better than momentary or division bell... i just implied they weren't as good as prime pink floyd.... Meddle, DSOTM, WYWH, Animals and that little ditty entitled the Wall.... these were evidence of Gilmour + Waters = Great Pink Floyd.

Division Bell is, however, FAR BETTER than Final Cut and better than Piper as well.
Also, Piper is never considered a great debut album - it's really just the best of Syd Barrett.... you can't rank that album anywhere notable.

I think Zeppelin was best from their 4th album on.

In many ways Zeppelin were the best band ever.  Queen were hugely influenced by them.

Having said that...Queen 1 is superior.

Remember, Queen released their debut after Zeppelin had 5 albums already under their belt.   I LOVE Queen's debut, and only *like* Zeppelin's debut.

p.p.s.

Queen WERE free to record whatever they wanted. However, they DIDN'T blow away record labels like Zeppelin did when they delivered their first set of songs. Led Zeppelin, at its time, was a breath of fresh air... it was diferent, ambitious, alive.
And I'm pretty sure there's an interview around where Freddie or Brian said they spent a lot of time perfecting their first album.

Led Zep I blows away Queen I.  Not even close.

re: Pink Floyd...  You're retarded cunts for leaving Rick Wright out of the equation.  That is all.

"BM: So that’s how that album was made. So although we had great technology around us we didn’t really have much freedom to use it. It really was grabbing little bits of time and we were regarded as sort of the new boys who didn’t really know anything and nobody really wanted to listen to the way we wanted to do things."

Brian May, 2011.

jpf...could you explain how "Led Zeppelin 1 blows away Queen1", please.

In terms of popularity, indeed it does.  But as far as performance and songwriting...I don't think so.

every song on led zeppelin I is a classic,there are maybe 3 classics on the 1st queen lp MAYBE!keep yourself alive being the standout track.that is why the 1st led zep album blows away the 1st queen album.

as far as debut lps go,that first VAN HALEN album was pretty damn good too!and the 1st BLACK SABBATH album also kicks ass!

"classic", "more famous" or "best selling" doesn´t mean that they are better in terms of musicality, perfomance, etc.

The first 5 songs in "Queen" are way better than almost everything Zepp have done.. in terms of musicality, complexity, and perfomance..

and..

Freddie Mercury sings on it.

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"Queen I had way more variety.  The only thing that Led Zeppelin I had
for it was that Plant was possibly a more honed singer at that point in
time"

LED ZEP is my fave group of all time,plant was a good singer in the 1970s,but in my humble opinion,freddy mercury is the greatest singer in the history of music!he was by far the greatest rock star that ever lived! he had such a gift that enabled him to sing and compose any type of music he choose too!he could take any song and make it his like he did when he sang that old budapest folk song in budapest in 1986.he sang it in their language,did'nt know what it meant,but when you hear him sing it,you'd think he'd sang it every day of his life! never seen anybody do that ever!

What other response did you expect on a Queen forum?

Let's get a dose of reality into the thread..

The fact remains, Led Zeppelin I is one of the most influential albums of all time... and arguably the most revered debut album of any band.  There are many great songs on Queen's debut album, but not a single track on that album is more innovative and influential than Dazed And Confused or How Many More Times.

Stylistically, Led Zeppelin I is all over the map.  Queen's sound didn't expand to include other genres of music until Sheer Heart Attack.

Zeppelin may not have written all their music, but that's because they were bluesmen.  It was common for bluesmen to build on the music that came before them.  It wasn't until copyright lawyers got involved in the 80s that this became an issue that anyone cared about.  LZ I reveals a band who are fusing blues with heavy metal (by 1968 standards) for the first time, and after LZ II came out, this launched them into being the biggest band of the 1970s.

At the end of the day, both bands were brilliant, both tackled many genres of music, and both were incredibly influential on those who came after them.  But regarding their debut albums, there is no contest, LZ is the winner.  Not that it should be a contest, anyway...