Queen I vs Led Zep I

You cannot compare these albums at all. Cause their impact or it's failure has a lot to do with the time when they were released. 
When Led Zeppelin started in 1969 their were pioneers of hard rock. And they were an absolute live attraction. You find no two concerts that are identic, they re-invented their songs every night on stage. And by 1971 they had defined that hardrock genre with the album IV (or however it is called).
Queen were influenced heavily by Led Zeppelin. And when they finally appeared in 1973 most people and the press thought they were part of the Glam-Rock scene. A kind of the next "Sweet". And the "Larry Lurex" single in England did not help either..... And that glam-scene with bands like Sweet and T.Rex was not taken seriously by the music press for whatever reasons.

"only did about a minute of it"

And with good reason!!

You can list all the "classic" songs you want off of Led Zeppelin 1...it's a bluesy, boring album in my estimation...and Zeppelin is my 2nd favorite band, btw.

I love every song on Queen 1...in fact,  I'll take "Mad The Swine"(which was left off the album) over ANYTHING on Zeppelin 1.  For all of you talking about Zeppelin 1 "blowing away" Queen1, I'll go even further..."My Fairy King" blows away anything on Zeppelin 1.  Go ahead with your snooty snickers.

I LOVE 4, Houses Of The Holy, Physical Graffiti, Prescence and In Through The Out Door.  LZ 1 has alays bored me, and I rarely play it.

My Fairy King blows away anything on any Led Zeppelin album, even all of them put together.

jazzy mercurois wrote: My Fairy King blows away anything on any Led Zeppelin album, even all of them put together.
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grow the f*** up...

you're saying that a song (as good as it is) that a whole verse was "lifted" from a Robert Browning classic...is better than EVERYTHING led zep ever did?  kashmir, trampled, thank you, in the evening, carouselambra, fool in the rain?

clean your ears out...

you're stepford in the extreme....there is room for all music in your ears/head...allow some of it in at least

jpf wrote:

"Doin' Alright" was a cover song.

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Hmm, that's debatable, since Brian May was one of the two songwriters.  Good point for discussion, though..

Sir GH wrote: jpf wrote:

"Doin' Alright" was a cover song.

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Hmm, that's debatable, since Brian May was one of the two songwriters.  Good point for discussion, though..
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Elton John first recorded Skyline Pigeon in 1969. He then re-recorded it in 1972 with his band. I think the Doing All Right thing is simply a re-recording (not a cover version), because one of the writers was still there. A cover version would be van Halen's "You really got me." (Different artists/writers).

Cover has more to do with it having been previously recorded. So, Paul's rendition of 'For No One' for 'Broad Street' is a cover even if he wrote it. Same for 'Here, There and Everywhere'. For 'Eleanor Rigby', he was the main writer, but not the only one (technically speaking).

It's not related to whether one of the performers was also one of the authors.

In the case of DAR, it could be quibbled that, while recorded, it hadn't been released. For the few dozens who'd known Smile and heard Smile's version, it was a cover. For the remaining 99.99% of the record buying population, the song was only officially released on 13th July 1973.

jpf wrote: *goodco* wrote: Queen is my favorite band, but to compare the two is laughable IMHO.  Their initial offering pales to Zep's.  ...but at least there were no covers.
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"Doin' Alright" was a cover song.

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KISS DID MORE COVERS THAN QUEEN! 

What do you call "Kissin' Time", "Then She Kissed Me", "Any Way You Want It", "Is That You", "Odyssey", "Do You Remember Rock and Roll Radio".

Also, add "Goin' Blind" and "She" to the list. Again I OWN YOUR MONKEYASS!

Where the hell did Kiss come from?!

In my opinion Doin' Alright does not count as a cover if it was not officially released by Smile. I'm not sure on whether that bootleg that's floating around is actually a vinyl rip of an official release or a vinyl rip of a demo / independent release awaiting a label t pick it up.

Come And Get It (written by Paul McCartney) originally released by Badfinger
Because The Night (written by Bruce Springsteen) originally released by Patti Smith

Both of those songs were recorded as demos by The Beatles and The Boss (released much later than the originally and officially released versions by other artists as demo tracks).... but they were initially sold to Badfinger and Patti Smith to record as their own. Can these be classified as cover songs? No. Can the demos released later by the original artists or a new official release by the original artist be considered a cover? Not really...

I think Doin' Alright falls in this grey area.... and therefore shouldn't be considered a cover.

jpf...so if anyone of us refuse to accept your premise that  LZ 1 "blows away" Queen 1 we are close minded and need to "grow the F*** up"?

Hmmm...LZ1 is Zeppelin's worst album in my opinion.  You can shape what you like by how much "influence" and "respect" it has.  Me?  I couldn't give a crap.  I like what I like...Queen 1 rules!

Sorry^^^^jpf!

I meant to address this to Brenski!

Now...this IS aimed at jpf.

You say how LZ 1 "blows away" Queen 1 and list songs like "Communication Breakdown" (yawn) and "Good Times Bad Times" (double yawn) we're all supposed to quiver at those tired, bland songs.

It's basically a blues album played extra loud.  To me, the "blues" are just plain boring...and this album is totally frozen in the '60's.  Zeppelin would go on to make some of the greatest music ever...but this disc ain't IT.

Queen 1 is full of color and wonder...Led Zep 1...drab, muddy and old.  And talk abnout lacking cohesion!!!...LZ 1 is a mess!

finally someone properly explains why Queen 1 may be regarded as better LZ 1 (obviously from a Queen fan's perspective).

Myself, I prefer Queen 1 over LZ 1 - I agree that LZ is a generally boring album - the only song I like hearing over and over again is How Many More Times... simple and aggressive. Queen I is very colorful. 

But still, hands down, in terms of which album is better - in terms of its music, cultural significance, contribution to music, technique and landmark songs... LZ wins....wins....wins!

My top 5 favorite albums of all time are: 1) News of the World, 2) Insomniac by Green Day, 3) The Holy Bible by the Manic Street Preachers, 4) Captain Fantastic and the Brown Dirty Cowboy by Elton John and 5) In Utero by Nirvana

Would I ever argue that any of these are among the top 10 albums of all time? top 100? (maybe In Utero for top 100)... NO... these are my favorite albums.... 

Anyone saying Queen I is better than LZ is saying so PURELY because they are Queen fans.

NOTWMEDDLE wrote: jpf wrote: *goodco* wrote: Queen is my favorite band, but to compare the two is laughable IMHO.  Their initial offering pales to Zep's.  ...but at least there were no covers.
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"Doin' Alright" was a cover song.

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KISS DID MORE COVERS THAN QUEEN! 

What do you call "Kissin' Time", "Then She Kissed Me", "Any Way You Want It", "Is That You", "Odyssey", "Do You Remember Rock and Roll Radio".

Also, add "Goin' Blind" and "She" to the list. Again I OWN YOUR MONKEYASS!
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The only ass you get is when you tear the toilet paper, dumbass autistic fuckup.

LOL

"Is That You" wasn't a cover song, someone outside of the band wrote it.
Same goes for "Odyssey".  "Odyssey" was later released by the outside songwriter.

"Rock and Roll Radio" was for a tribute cd.

"Goin' Blind" isn't a cover song.

"She" and "Love Her All I Can" fall in the same category as "Doin' Alright"; they were songs from both bands' previous groups.  The difference with the two KISS songs is the style of music was changed.

You can now go fuck yourself.