Freddie's documentary "The Great Pretender" is leaked

Stepfordism would be to say that Queen never did wrong.
Here, some of us are just pointing the obvious with some realism:

The kind of release of The Great pretender, is way better than crappy Q+PR studio albums ,another Wembley DVD, or a Documentary that seem another incarnation of the same material of Magic years or Champions of the World.

But, Some people seem to feel entitled to demand all the material uncut now.

Pittrek: Do you realize that the hardcore collector fan is not the main target of Queen releases . There are more Queen fans out there too?
Now, regarding: "only a few SECONDS of never seen material:


Rhys said:
"Even the footage you have seen is now in HD, so like watching something new anyway. For example, The David Wigg interview used in the past was poor quality as it had a time code running through it so we had to crop and zoom it for past documentaries. I wanted to find the original and brilliant Greg Brooks located the 1" tape which was clean and amazing quality. We also found a whole new interview never before broadcast from 1985 and 1984."

So, For the general public, i think most of the documentary is indeed unseen.


Rhys said:
"There Must Be More To Life Than This features in the new documentary for the first time as does the Rod Stewart demo."

PR said:
"Among the treasures to be anticipated, The Great Pretender includes for the first time ever Freddie and Rod Stewart singing their demo for "Take Another Piece of My Heart," an unreleased song from 1984, a snippet of the unreleased Michael Jackson / Freddie Mercury collaboration "There Must Be More To Life Than This", and Freddie with the Royal Ballet 1979 – never seen in full before.
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They both appear right? Did you read the Snippet part?

And about:
"all we got is again just a few seconds of the performance, and it looked like downloaded from Queenzone"
You saw a lossy MPG cut of the video.
And what else would you want if it's a One Crappy Camera recording...


YourValentine Said: "Decades ago Queen released new albums and played live concerts. It was not about scraping the barrell and about how many documentaries they can sell to the fans from the material that has been lying around for all these years"
Being fan since 1991 doesn't makes me less than any other . At least i'm honest about it.

However don't you think maybe is time to realize that Freddie died 21 years ago, John is retired from the music Business,
Brian is aging in every sense of the world, and Roger can't make Queen by himself either.
You cannot expect the "feel" you had in those times when Queen was indeed Alive.
We can't even have decent cover design these days.

I think, for a change, we got NEW footage, NEW unheard audio, a Freddie bio, basically told by himself
And we are here whining like spoiled fans, calling stepfords the ones not whining.

I expect to have new exciting material to buy every year in the next decades and not run out of everything now.
I expect to buy and not "just download" the stuff, so it's convenient for many of us to have accesible releases and not having to spend big part of the paycheck for having the whole deal (like box of tricks or freddie collection years ago).

if we had uncut full material now, then next year we would be whining why we dont have anything else to see, anything new and exciting.

Queen got himself a very demanding wife (The Fans)

i watched yesterday the untold story, from the FM box of 2000, and comparing with this new documentary, TUS is much better than this, to show much of freddie's childhood, this new focuses only from the 80's to the freddie's death, and and shows little of the 70's moments

third part on vimeo..

i want it all outtakes, some crap, and very intense outtakes of these are the days of our lives, jim beach giving nice info about the remix of Living on my own, and the ending credits are great!

and where's the link??

Here is the link for part 3:
http://vimeo.com/49104362

thanks bokkepoot

3 part
https://vimeo.com/49104362

Honestly, anyone who has issues with this documentary is a fuckstick. You're more concerned about what it isn't than what it actually is.

I can't get over the stupidity. "Where's the full Let Me Live demo!". I mean - how does that even fit into a documentary format? You kill the interviews for five minutes while a whole unfinished song plays? No. Just play 5 seconds that illustrate the point (here's Rod Stewart and you haven't heard this before) and move on.

The outtakes from the "These Are The Days Of Our Lives" video in part 3 are amazing, by the way. It is so strange to see him hobble around, terribly ill in the behind-the-scenes stuff, and then when the actual camera is rolling - he takes on this very ethereal look. Dunno how the hell he managed it.

Anyway, you guys are dicks if you can't appreciate this thing. Like I said - stop crying about what you don't have, and take 2 seconds to look at what we're getting here. Save your complaints for the stuff that actually sucks, like 5ive, Robbie Williams, Jessie J, Lady Gaga, Greatest Video Hits 3, Wyclif Jean, Adam Lambert ...

I watched parts 1 and 3 and they had some interesting things.

I'd like to see more about Freddies early life throught the early seventies, but I suppose there isn't a whole lot of information out there. I'm not a hug fan of his solo work to be honest. The piece of my heart demo was interesting and some of the behind the scenes footage was cool.

It looked like there were some clips from the May 1st, 1975 show at Budokan that I haven't seen. And a couple clips Alexandra Palace 1979?

Latest tweet by Rhys Thomas...
"Some anus invited to the Freddie screening last week as a fan, has uploaded their free gift onto the internet, spoiling it for all. Prat."

[QUOTE] [b]MartynTS wrote:[/b]
I watched parts 1 and 3 and they had some interesting things.
I'd like to see more about Freddies early life throught the early seventies, but I suppose there isn't a whole lot of information out there. I'm not a hug fan of his solo work to be honest. The piece of my heart demo was interesting and some of the behind the scenes footage was cool.
It looked like there were some clips from the May 1st, 1975 show at Budokan that I haven't seen. And a couple clips Alexandra Palace 1979? [/QUOTE]
Budokan footage : http://www.queenzone.com/forums/1323351/tokyo-75-exhibition-footage.aspx

Some people are complete idiots aren't they. We moan that QPL doesn't give us anything, then they let fans in to the Freddie preview screening, AND by the looks of Rhys' tweet give them an advance DVD of it, and they then leak it. It's not as if it's stuff that we could never see - we're all going to buy it in a couple of weeks anyway. This is a sure way to stop getting any little treats like preview invites and freebies in the future.

If you're the one who leaked it and you're reading this - you're a dick.

@ Ozz - it was you who brought up the "decades ago" argument while signing with "Queen fan since 1991" - so do not try to turn the conversation around and lay the blame on me. I never dismissed anyone's opinion because he was a late fan but I do not want to be lectured about collecting efforts in the past when I was the one who did the collecting and you were not even around - not to mention to be called a "spoiled brat" by you. Also there is no need to waste our time with stating the obvious like Freddie has been dead since 91 etc etc - really, we all here know that.

If you cannot make the distinction between simply moaning around and valid criticism and annoyance produced by sensationalizing press releases and announcement it will be very difficult to have a discussion with you.

@ Zebonka - name calling is not making a point. I understand that you think that everyone who disagrees with you deserves to be called all kinds of names which does not make your opinion more valid, though.

[QUOTE] [b]Ozz wrote:[/b]
The kind of release of The Great pretender, is way better than crappy Q+PR studio albums[/QUOTE]
That's just your opinion, and to be honest, it's quite irrelevant, because QPR and Freddie Mercury have nothing to do with each other. If you want to compare it to something, comparing it to a different Freddie release would be more appropriate.

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Pittrek: Do you realize that the hardcore collector fan is not the main target of Queen releases . [/QUOTE]


Yes, I do. That's the thing which makes me sad. The last items for collectors was probably the 1992 box set with the Rainbow tape, since then Queen have released things ONLY for "causual fans". For the Freddie releases replace the 1992 box with the 2000 Freddie box of course.

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Now, regarding: "only a few SECONDS of never seen material:
Rhys said:
"Even the footage you have seen is now in HD, so like watching something new anyway. For example, The David Wigg interview used in the past was poor quality as it had a time code running through it so we had to crop and zoom it for past documentaries. I wanted to find the original and brilliant Greg Brooks located the 1" tape which was clean and amazing quality. We also found a whole new interview never before broadcast from 1985 and 1984."
So, For the general public, i think most of the documentary is indeed unseen.
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Of course, but again that's exactly what I wrote about above.

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Rhys said:
"There Must Be More To Life Than This features in the new documentary for the first time as does the Rod Stewart demo."
PR said:
"Among the treasures to be anticipated, The Great Pretender includes for the first time ever Freddie and Rod Stewart singing their demo for "Take Another Piece of My Heart," an unreleased song from 1984, a snippet of the unreleased Michael Jackson / Freddie Mercury collaboration "There Must Be More To Life Than This", and Freddie with the Royal Ballet 1979 – never seen in full before.
"
They both appear right? Did you read the Snippet part?
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Well I know my English is crap, but I understand both quotes as - you will hear the "TAPOMH" demo and a snippet of "TMBMTLTT", and not you will hear snippets of these 2 demos.

[QUOTE] [b]pittrek wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]MartynTS wrote:[/b]
I watched parts 1 and 3 and they had some interesting things.
I'd like to see more about Freddies early life throught the early seventies, but I suppose there isn't a whole lot of information out there. I'm not a hug fan of his solo work to be honest. The piece of my heart demo was interesting and some of the behind the scenes footage was cool.
It looked like there were some clips from the May 1st, 1975 show at Budokan that I haven't seen. And a couple clips Alexandra Palace 1979? [/QUOTE]
Budokan footage : http://www.queenzone.com/forums/1323351/tokyo-75-exhibition-footage.aspx
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Thanks for the link!