The first image come from the Freddie Mercury Video Collection, and is taken from DoRo team during Hammer To Fall. The second is taken by the gigant screen at the same moment,
They are very similar but slighty different, and if the angles are different it must mean that QP don't have the recorded material from Knebworth, just the DoRo film.
Of course they still have the audio of the gig.
Kacio · Member since
This isn't a shot from the camera DoRo
In my opinion they have this video of full concert ;)
Ozz · Member since
opinion based in zero facts?
It's pretty clear that they had enough chances in the past to make money around this concert in case they had it. and they didn't.
That's enough proof to me.
Knebworth don't exist. I Agree
The Real Wizard · Member since
The topic starter has made the case pretty clear. There is plenty of evidence to suggest that they don't have the complete Knebworth show in the archives.
Time to move on from this one.
john bodega · Member since
"This isn't a shot from the camera DoRo
In my opinion they have this video of full concert ;)"
I would hate to be your doctor. On the day that I diagnose you with diabetes, with all of your charts laid out before me, trying to do you a Goddamn favour - and with that dumb wink you assure me that you don't have diabetes at all.
There is no evidence of any Knebworth tape. Splash some cold water in your face.
MERQRY · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
The topic starter has made the case pretty clear. There is plenty of evidence to suggest that they don't have the complete Knebworth show in the archives.
Time to move on from this one.[/QUOTE]
Say what you (or me or whoever) say, SADLY, the Knebworth park conspiracy tehory will go on (forever and ever)...
I don´t know what people doesn´t understand of "Knebworth parks wasn´t recorded (pro), we only have the ultra know audience recording and SOME documentary footage filmed by DoRo"...
By the way we don´t need any gig of the Magic Tour anymore!
Release 70´s concerts, more 80´s gigs, or NOTHING, but please don´t release NOTHING more from magic tour... till Budapest i was relatively happy, more is abuse.
Kacio · Member since
[QUOTE]
[b]Zebonka12 wrote: [/b] "This isn't a shot from the camera DoRo In my opinion they have this video of full concert ;)"
I would hate to be your doctor. On the day that I diagnose you with diabetes, with all of your charts laid out before me, trying to do you a Goddamn favour - and with that dumb wink you assure me that you don't have diabetes at all.
There is no evidence of any Knebworth tape. Splash some cold water in your face.[/QUOTE]
bullshit Can see what your level of culture ... very low I remember when they said that there is Friday Night At Wembley but only in part, came in 2011 and the Friday edition of Wembley. So stop believing in what he says Maylor...
Doga · Member since
''they said that there is Friday Night At Wembley but only in part''
And is true, they only have a part of the camera angles, the second night they use more cameras.
I like a lot the Magic Tour too, but the fact is they only film Budapest, the second night in Wembley, and the first as a test for the camera issues. That's a lot for the standars of the time. Look at Pink Floyd or a Led Zepellin for that matters.
On the bright side, Queen record a lot of gigs in audio from the Magic Tour, all of the UK leg and some from the rest of Europe, and they released three of them, plus Mannheim on the radio, and almost the half of Knebworth in Live Magic. That is a lot of material.
Now i like to hear some of the 70' stuff. They have wonderful recordings from that time (in video and audio, but audio is far more important)
john bodega · Member since
"bullshit
Can see what your level of culture ... very low"
???
All I said is that there is no evidence of a full Knebworth video. Put the jawbone down for a second and think about what that entails. It just means that there is nothing available to us fans, and nothing that's been said by QPL, that would indicate that such a tape exists.
I worded that part very carefully, by the way, just so that you wouldn't get confused by what I meant. I deliberately left room for the possibility that a tape 'might' exist, somewhere, but that there is no evidence for it in sight.
You're the uncultured one here, sunshine. I'm doing you a favour by trying to get you to snap out of your fantastic delusions about a lost Queen tape that you'll never get to see, and you didn't even say thanks.
john bodega · Member since
"I remember when they said that there is Friday Night At Wembley but only in part"
I think you may be confused here. The situation with the Friday show is that it exists 'as is'. Multiple angles were not recorded and preserved - it's just the edit as it was.
Saturday night, on the other hand, exists as separate angles of video footage. They have the material to re-edit the show if they so wished.
Brian was under the impression (some years ago) that Knebworth was in a similar state - that the show was there in the archives, but not as multiple angles. He has since recanted and said that it's not there after all.
Now, you can say "he's lying!", but you need something to back that up. And you have nothing. Telling me I'm uncultured won't prove your point - stop blaming the messenger, here.
Where did this come from then? it does look like the bootleg video
Doga · Member since
From the Freddie Mercury Video Collection, the last clip, In My Defence (version 2000)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9f3HcT9toww
2:38
And a personal opinion, having three magic shows in great quality, why don't move on?
The two nights on Earl's Court seems more interesting to me, Rainbow, Houston, Hammy 79, Japan 85 or Rock In Rio are another great recorded gigs. Why this interest in Knebworth?
kdj2hot · Member since
Who cares. What the hell does it accomplish if they do or dont have the confert this entire discussion is stupid.
pittrek · Member since
These 2 pics are interesting.
If you compare them, they are actually IDENTICAL. Just watch the bottom of the pic, especially Freddie's fist.
BUT .... check very carefully this video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65kyfFIzigs end check the monitor at the right bottom corner. The video, which was "broadcast" to the Technovision screen, zooms up slowly. The DoRo footage shows the same scene from the same angle, but it DOES NOT ZOOM UP.
I personally think that there were simply 2 cameras standing extremely close together (or behind each other), one of them was a 35mm DoRo camera, the other one was a video camera broadcasting the show to the screen
john bodega · Member since
"Where did this come from then? it does look like the bootleg video"
It was established (years ago, in fact) that this frame is from a different viewpoint than the video camera being used for the big screen.
It only looks like the bootleg video in the most utterly superficial sense. Freddie is pulling the same pose, in the same performance, from a similar (read : not identical) perspective.
Aside from the different perspective, the dead giveaway in the jpg you're linking to is the quality of the picture. A lot of videotape'd gigs that have made it to DVD (think Led Zeppelin at Knebworth or even the Friday Wembley show from Queen) have a rather ugly horizontal banding artifacting going for them. It's not omnipresent as such, but it's quite noticeable.
I haven't seen this clip of Freddie in motion, but it looks like it could be from a film source. Doro were using film cameras that day. Possibly a Doro clip - what is certain is that it is *not* a still from the big screen feed.
Can we put this to bed now? I don't like bursting anyones bubbles but this was already sorted out literally *years* ago.
