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[b]Black Velvet wrote: [/b] [QUOTE] [b]SweetCaroline wrote:[/b]

Yes, in a Queen + tour it's a given that they will be COVERING Queen music. You don't like to be corrected. I posted all of the originally recorded songs in the "Trespassing" album that you said you didn't buy (as a supposed Adam Lambert fan) because you don't like them. So be it. But don't attack him that he sings too many cover songs. He has included cover songs in his live shows to add some variety, for example, the reggae Bob Marley song, "Is This Love" and legendary rock songs, "Whole Lotta Love," "Purple Haze," and "20th Century Boy!" If you had ever attended his live shows, you would love what he does, too. I watched that Led Zeppelin "Celebration Day" concert and it was great but if I had been in that audience I would have thought it was spectacular! There's something about the electricity at a live concert that can't be felt by watching a video and that's a fact!
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What planet are you on? For such a devoted fan you sure miss facts...
Never Close Our Eyes was a Bruno Mars demo. It was recorded and the full version with Bruno singing was on Youtube before the Trespassing album was released.
Underneath was a country style song written by Tom Shapiro and there was a demo for that as well on Youtube before Trespassing was released.
You continue to twist things. I said I didn't buy Trespassing because there was music I liked more at the time. Where have I ever posted that I didn't like AL's last album. Is it ok, do I have to ask your permission to like FYE more. If doing what you do is what is takes to be an AL fan, well I'm glad you and your cronie mithril/taptap don't consider me an AL fan. Don't attack him? I'm pointing out the fact he has and will do many covers. Not attacking him.
You once again are full of crap. I don't think you have ever saw Elvis live, yet you often compare him to AL.
It's crazy how your mind works.

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[b]taptap wrote:[/b] Seriously, do you know anything at all about the music industry?  Because it sound like you know absolutely nothing.  Songwriters who try to sell their songs to others make demos - that's how they're sold.  A demo isn't a recorded song on a final album - it's a selling tool.  Bruno Mars started out his career writing songs and selling them to recording artists - using demos.  He still does that.  Now, additionally, he keeps some of his own songs to record hmself.  So...

Pink wrote 'What do you want from me' and sold it to Adam.  She can sing it, but when she does it's a cover, because Adam owns the original recording rights.

Bruno Mars wrote 'Never close our eyes' and sold it to Adam.  He can sing it, but when he does it's a cover, because Adam owns the original recording rights.

John Deacon wrote AOBTD, but Queen agreed at the beginning that all songs written, whether by one or all of them, would be jointly credited to the band.  They didn't sell this song to anyone, they recorded it for a published album.  Anyone BESIDES Queen who performs this song is therefore covering the song.  If Adam sang this song on one of his solo tours, he'd be covering the song.  When he sings it as the frontman for Queen, he is not covering the song, because it's being performed under the Queen aegis.  

When Heart performs Stairway to Heaven and other LZ songs at the end of their concerts (which they almost always do), they're covering songs by LZ, who own the original recording rights.

When Adam plays the material on his own albums, whether he wrote them entirely, co-wrote them, or purchased them from another song-writer, they are not covers, they're music he owns the recording rights to.  When he does a live concert, he sometimes throws in things like Whole Lotta Love, and that's a cover of a LZ song because they own the recording rights.  When he sings Time for Miracles that's a cover, because he was commissioned to sing that for the movie 2012 by R. Emmerich the producer/director of that movie who commissioned the writing and performing of the song.

You as a great big self-proclaimed expert on music in general and Queen in particular obviously don't know what you're talking about since you always - ALWAYS - get this wrong.  Guess what?  The people who actually know stuff about music here and on QOL, whether Queen fans or Lambert fans or fans in general, know you're talking out your ass when you say these things.  I know you feel the need to follow SC around like a puppy dog desperate to get a bone, but everyone actually can read the words you write, and even though most of your writing is incomprehensible, the rest is clearly bullshit.  So please continue entertaining us with your lack of knowledge why demanding the same from others.  ffs if someone actually spent the time answering your questions (like I attempt to every now and then), you wouldn't understand anyway, which is why you generally get no response because who wants to waste their time on such a hopeless cause?   This is also why you don't get people jumping to your support here or on QOL, because they don't want to look as illiterate about music as you.  The ones that do are self-proclaimed newbies who don't know much (freddiecat) and trolls who like you assisting them in trolling (milkman).  Get a clue, icy, you're being used, and you end up looking like a tool and a fool.

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You keep throwing in the wanna-be-spokesperson for AL and promoting AL issue like it's an insult.  Guess what?  As fans we're not insulted by that - we're happy to do it, we like doing it.  That's why we do it - duh! If you want to insult Lambert fans, you need to find something they're embarrassed by, not something you think they're embarrassed by that they're not.  It's such a waste of your time but you do it over and over and over again - that's the textbook definition of insanity.  So once again:

1. Lambert fans are happy to promote Adam.  This is not an insult to Adam's fans, no matter how much you think it is.
2. Lambert fans are happy to be wanna-be-spokespersons for Adam.  This is not an insult to Adam's fans, no matter how much you think it is.
3. Lambert fans have no problem with him covering songs at the end of his concerts - they like his voice on his own songs and on good cover songs.  This is not an insult to Adam's fans, no matter how much you think it is.

By the way, items 1 and 2 mean the exact same thing just in case you want to save yourself some time in the future and just type one out instead of both.

I really don't know why I'm bothering to try and set you straight on this, when it's actually more entertaining to watch you make a fool of yourself over and over again, but I guess a small part of me is beginning to feel bad for you, being used and misled by others with no one to tell you what's what.  You've got free will though, so take it or leave it, continue on or not, it's your call.  Just understand that people are laughing at you, not with you, and act as you see fit.[/QUOTE]

Do you know anything about the music industry? I doubt it as you can't even be bothered to discuss other music.

Pink wrote 'What do you want from me' and sold it to Adam. She can sing it, but when she does it's a cover, because Adam owns the original recording rights."

And Adam started singing covers and he is singing covers. Songs Bruno didn't want for his own album just like Pink's WWFM. So I guess it's not his own song and that was the point. It's a cover. Put Adam in a room with a piano and or a guitar and he will come out with nothing because he can't write a song.
You think and always thought you know it all. You don't. It's quite something to see the rages/rants you and sweetcaroline go to in defending/promoting AL. You both don't seem happy to me, bitter much by my being on 2 boards, and the blame game, pat on the backs you both give each other? Don'
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[QUOTE] [b]Black Velvet wrote:[/b]

1. Do you know anything about the music industry? I doubt it as you can't even be bothered to discuss other music.

2. Put Adam in a room with a piano and or a guitar and he will come out with nothing because he can't write a song.

3. You both don't seem happy to me.
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1. If you read my post carefully, you would see that it was full of information about music, including that of Pink, Bruno Mars, Queen, Heart, LZ, and Adam. On the other hand, I've never seen a bit of discussion in your posts about any music whatsoever.

2. Adam has full and co-writing credits on most of the tracks on his FYE album (a billboard #2 album) and Trespassing (a billboard #1 album), and additionally has co-writing credits on True with TB (Avicii's global selling album), so clearly you don't know what you're talking about unless you're trying to say that you can't write music unless you play an instrument, which is so false it's crazy.

Maybe modern technology has eluded you, but most songwriters actually write their songs on computers, many on small computers like tablets. They get their chords and arrange their music by software programs, so they don't need to strum chords on a guitar or plunk chords on a keyboard, even if some still do.

3. I guess you and I have different definitions of happy. SC and I, and most other Lambert fans are thrilled about Adam's solo career and his collaborations (with Queen, with Nile R., with Avicii, etc.). Lambert fans love his voice and his talent. Thrilled = happy.

You are the opposite of thrilled. Every post you make has to do with how much you hate Lambert and his collab. with Queen. I don't care if you don't like it - it's everyone's right to like or not like music. But if there's anyone here that's bitter and butthurt, it's not Lambert fans, who are thrilled (i.e. happy) with the diversity of his work, it's you.
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[b]SweetCaroline wrote: [/b] taptap, Thank you for correcting MY post as well! You are so right that if Adam is performing Queen music as their front man, he is NOT covering that music--[b]I had that so wrong, thanks to icy, who has me going in circles over this insane "cover" thing.
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[b]taptap wrote:[/b] This is what trolls do; state a false premise and hope they can convince others to debate it like it's true.  You've tried to have discussions with her, but it's futile, because a) she doesn't know what she's talking about, and b) her objective is to try and lead you down false paths when she can.  It's best not to follow someone with such a twisted agenda.

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[QUOTE] [b]Black Velvet wrote:[/b]

1. Do you know anything about the music industry? I doubt it as you can't even be bothered to discuss other music.

2. Put Adam in a room with a piano and or a guitar and he will come out with nothing because he can't write a song.

3. You both don't seem happy to me.
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1. If you read my post carefully, you would see that it was full of information about music, including that of Pink, Bruno Mars, Queen, Heart, LZ, and Adam. On the other hand, I've never seen a bit of discussion in your posts about any music whatsoever.

2. Adam has full and co-writing credits on most of the tracks on his FYE album (a billboard #2 album) and Trespassing (a billboard #1 album), and additionally has co-writing credits on True with TB (Avicii's global selling album), so clearly you don't know what you're talking about unless you're trying to say that you can't write music unless you play an instrument, which is so false it's crazy.

Maybe modern technology has eluded you, but most songwriters actually write their songs on computers, many on small computers like tablets. They get their chords and arrange their music by software programs, so they don't need to strum chords on a guitar or plunk chords on a keyboard, even if some still do.

3. I guess you and I have different definitions of happy. SC and I, and most other Lambert fans are thrilled about Adam's solo career and his collaborations (with Queen, with Nile R., with Avicii, etc.). Lambert fans love his voice and his talent. Thrilled = happy.

You are the opposite of thrilled. Every post you make has to do with how much you hate Lambert and his collab. with Queen. I don't care if you don't like it - it's everyone's right to like or not like music. But if there's anyone here that's bitter and butthurt, it's not Lambert fans - it's you.
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This is from the sheet music to WWFM.
2009 EMI Blackwood Music Inc. Pink Inside Publishing and Maratone MB
All Rights for Pink Inside Publishing controlled by EMI Blackwood Music
copyright secured use by permission.
How can you write a song and record it but it not be yours? She just didn't put it on her album. It's hers and she is making more money than Adam from it.
Again, I will point out you are nothing but a liar on top of everything else. Are you getting me mixed up with someone else, or just trying to shit stir again, Where have I posted I hate Lambert. Do check your records that you said you kept of my posts. But alas, you can't cause I've not posted it anywhere here and on QOL. You slip again.
And you proved how damn bitter, butthurt , spiteful you were on QOL, just before your leaving there.
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taptap, It's no use -- like her boyfriend over at QOL, icy MUST always have the last word! I think we should both give up, ignore her and not respond. She doesn't care what WE think because she thinks SHE is always right! GTH, icy, so you can melt! Ha! Ha!
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[b]taptap wrote:[/b] This is what trolls do; state a false premise and hope they can convince others to debate it like it's true.  You've tried to have discussions with her, but it's futile, because a) she doesn't know what she's talking about, and b) her objective is to try and lead you down false paths when she can.  It's best not to follow someone with such a twisted agenda.

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Oh the trolls again.
You both are the ones with twisted agendas. You have posted I had stated I hate AL, not true. Not even close.
What goes on in your twisted minds mithril/taptap and CNB/sweetcaroline?
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[b]Black Velvet wrote: [/b] [QUOTE]This is from the sheet music to WWFM. 
[/QUOTE] 2009 EMI Blackwood Music Inc. Pink Inside Publishing and Maratone MB
All Rights for Pink Inside Publishing controlled by EMI Blackwood Music
copyright secured use by permission.
How can you write a song and record it but it not be yours? She just didn't put it on her album. It's hers and she is making more money than Adam from it.
Again, I will point out you are nothing but a liar on top of everything else. Are you getting me mixed up with someone else, or just trying to shit stir again, Where have I posted I hate Lambert. Do check your records that you said you kept of my posts. But alas, you can't cause I've not posted it anywhere here and on QOL. You slip again.
And you proved how damn bitter, butthurt , spiteful you were on QOL, just before your leaving there.[/QUOTE]

[b]taptap wrote:[/b] Do you know the difference between the grammy best album and best record awards?  The best album goes to the artist who made the album.  For example, if FYE won this award, the grammy would go to Adam.  The best record award goes to the songwriter who wrote the best song.  So if WWFM won best record, the grammy would go to Pink.  Adam has the original recording rights, but Pink will always have the songwriting rights, and will get royalties for that.  Just like Adam will share in the song-writing royalties from every True album sold, commiserate with the track LMD.  Really, you need to use your brain more than you currently do.  You keep saying you understand the music industry, but you disprove that point with every post.
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[b]Black Velvet wrote: [/b] [QUOTE] [b]taptap wrote:[/b]

[b]taptap wrote:[/b] This is what trolls do; state a false premise and hope they can convince others to debate it like it's true.  You've tried to have discussions with her, but it's futile, because a) she doesn't know what she's talking about, and b) her objective is to try and lead you down false paths when she can.  It's best not to follow someone with such a twisted agenda.

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Oh the trolls again.
You both are the ones with twisted agendas. You have posted I had stated I hate AL, not true. Not even close.
What goes on in your twisted minds mithril/taptap and CNB/sweetcaroline?
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[b]taptap wrote:[/b] OMG you'd have to be a moron not to rightly interpret that you don't care for the artist Adam Lambert.  I couldn't care less.  I don't need everyone to like him.  But when you insist you do, all anyone has to do is read your posts to see that you're contradicting yourself, which makes you a troll.  Sorry charlie, there's no other way around it, because you can't have your cake and eat it, too.
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[b]SweetCaroline wrote: [/b] taptap, It's no use -- like her boyfriend over at QOL, icy MUST always have the last word! I think we should both give up, ignore her and not respond. She doesn't care what WE think because she thinks SHE is always right! GTH, icy, so you can melt! Ha! Ha!
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[b]taptap wrote:[/b] I agree.  Let her blather on talking nonsense to herself.
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[QUOTE] [b]SweetCaroline wrote:[/b]

taptap, It's no use -- like her boyfriend over at QOL, icy MUST always have the last word! I think we should both give up, ignore her and not respond. She doesn't care what WE think because she thinks SHE is always right! GTH, icy, so you can melt! Ha! Ha!
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Yea, you both know how to ignore(Not) by blaming me for your ban and posting I was the cause of other bans and saying I hate AL which is not true. Get the fuck over yourselves.
You both lose by trying to bring others into this, the stalkers/followers/threats/twisting things.
You are right though, you both should give up. If it makes you both and your minds to feel better, go on "ignore" me.
It just goes to prove you don't see the whole picture.
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[b]Black Velvet wrote: [/b] [QUOTE] [b]taptap wrote:[/b]

[b]taptap wrote:[/b] This is what trolls do; state a false premise and hope they can convince others to debate it like it's true.  You've tried to have discussions with her, but it's futile, because a) she doesn't know what she's talking about, and b) her objective is to try and lead you down false paths when she can.  It's best not to follow someone with such a twisted agenda.

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Oh the trolls again.
You both are the ones with twisted agendas. You have posted I had stated I hate AL, not true. Not even close.
What goes on in your twisted minds mithril/taptap and CNB/sweetcaroline?
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[b]taptap wrote:[/b] OMG you'd have to be a moron not to rightly interpret that you don't care for the artist Adam Lambert.  I couldn't care less.  I don't need everyone to like him.  But when you insist you do, all anyone has to do is read your posts to see that you're contradicting yourself, which makes you a troll.  Sorry charlie, there's no other way around it, because you can't have your cake and eat it, too.[/QUOTE]


It's deplorable how you twist things to suit what you are after. Yes, you need/want everyone to like him, why promote and defend him so much? You can't handle another view than your own.
So contradicting myself makes me a troll? LOL. What a small minded world you live in. Views can and do change, mine has even about Queen since I become a fan and more things besides.
You really are a control freak. You and SC. who went as far as to warn me about another poster, not liking me because of who I talk with, so much twisting what I've posted. Never mind the threats you made.You both are vindictive and spiteful...and I hope everyone can see that.
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Adam is all man.
I am just grateful Queen are not touring with a transsexual with a beard, that is just too much, and if they ever did, Brian and Roger would have to grow beards or it would be just wrong. And it is already wrong. I mean ok if she had an op that's that too late and everything, but to then wear a beard, it just trying to shock and it. Makes you uneasy, it is going too far . For me anyway.
Anyway can't wait till they start this tour. I want to hear what Adam will do with the songs this time.
Must be getting more used to them by now and stage performance, hope there's some rocking arrangements. He should do a full over the top death on two legs, lots of power in that. Sing it raw rough and snarling powerful. Get them loud the Brian and Roger harmonies , and drive that beat just ahead and plow dive that thing until it's out of control the beat carrying it to the the edge
fast and Explode it!.
With a Massive close encounters of the third kind beginning with a taped version of the scream intro. Loud loud loud.
Yes and do that lead guitar exact.
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