Ive tried to look for this info with no luck. Both Jim and Freddie were HIV at the same time. Was it that Jim never got aids and just remained in HIV state,then with advances of treatment he was able to survive until cancer got him in the end in 2010?
brENsKi · Member since
oh. God
Stelios · Member since
A lot of people from that era survived.
The reasons may vary.
Better immune system, genetic differences (DNA), simple luck e.t.c.
And then after 1995/6 HIV became a chronic illness becouse of the coctail of drugs that had been developed.
luthorn · Member since
He spends his allowance wisely.
jazzrazzmatazz · Member since
I think the difference is that Freddie probably got HIV somewhere around the late 1970s or early 1980s, so that's almost 5-10 years before he gave it to Jim. and Jim had time for it to develop, which was throughout the 1990s, when HIV treatment got better and this way he survived for that long.
looking back, people mostly got affected with HIV around the late 1970s and if you look at some of the people in the entertainment business who lived at that time and had AIDS, like Liberace, Rudolf Nureyev, disco singer Sylvester or fashion designer Roy Halston - they all died around the same time Freddie did, in the late 1980s or very early 1990s. anyone who got infected with HIV in that early period, wouldn't live longer than 10 years or so, because the treatment wasn't as advanced as it is today...
Stelios · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]jazzrazzmatazz wrote:[/b]
I think the difference is that Freddie probably got HIV somewhere around the late 1970s or early 1980s, so that's almost 5-10 years before he gave it to Jim. and Jim had time for it to develop, which was throughout the 1990s, when HIV treatment got better and this way he survived for that long.
looking back, people mostly got affected with HIV around the late 1970s and if you look at some of the people in the entertainment business who lived at that time and had AIDS, like Liberace, Rudolf Nureyev, disco singer Sylvester or fashion designer Roy Halston - they all died around the same time Freddie did, in the late 1980s or very early 1990s. anyone who got infected with HIV in that early period, wouldn't live longer than 10 years or so, because the treatment wasn't as advanced as it is today...[/QUOTE]
We don't know it for sure Freddie gave it to Jim. At least from what i have read, anyway...
Except if in '' MERCURY AND ME '' (i have only read segments of the book) Jim sais that.
Is he?
barnsleybob · Member since
Brenski. Is that your contribution??
Guys,thankyou.
Holly2003 · Member since
The Aids porn addicts are back.
Marknow · Member since
Staying Power.
Costa86 · Member since
Basically as the others already said - he was probably infected in the mid-80s, rather than the late 70s, as Freddie was. Thus, when HAART (the 'cocktail' drugs) became available in the mid-90s, he had not yet developed AIDS (HIV infected people take on average 8-10 years to develop AIDS), and was able to control his HIV infection through HAART, and never have it develop into AIDS. Freddie developed AIDS by 1986/87, since he became infected with HIV a number of years before Jim.
In the end, Jim, a smoker, died of lung cancer. Lung cancer is more common in smokers who are HIV positive than in smokers who do not have HIV. So it is possible that HIV still contributed to his death, albeit indirectly.
I'd like to add that it is obviously still speculation that Jim got infected with HIV in the mid-80s. He could of course have been infected before this, by a person other than Freddie. In which case the explanation I gave wouldn't really stand, and it would be more down to Jim's own immune response/genes to explain why he didn't develop AIDS like Freddie did, and was able to benefit form the cocktail drugs of 1995/96.
Elektra · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Costa86 wrote:[/b]
Basically as the others already said - he was probably infected in the mid-80s, rather than the late 70s, as Freddie was. Thus, when HAART (the 'cocktail' drugs) became available in the mid-90s, he had not yet developed AIDS (HIV infected people take on average 8-10 years to develop AIDS), and was able to control his HIV infection through HAART, and never have it develop into AIDS. Freddie developed AIDS by 1986/87, since he became infected with HIV a number of years before Jim.
In the end, Jim, a smoker, died of lung cancer. Lung cancer is more common in smokers who are HIV positive than in smokers who do not have HIV. So it is possible that HIV still contributed to his death, albeit indirectly.
I'd like to add that it is obviously still speculation that Jim got infected with HIV in the mid-80s. He could of course have been infected before this, by a person other than Freddie. In which case the explanation I gave wouldn't really stand, and it would be more down to Jim's own immune response/genes to explain why he didn't develop AIDS like Freddie did, and was able to benefit form the cocktail drugs of 1995/96.[/QUOTE]
Very well said its such a hard subject to talk about as I have two friends who are HIV one contracted the disease in 1986 and the other in 1998 they are Healthy and Living. Its all about Lifestyle choices and medication has advanced. Bless Jim I liked him a lot!
john bodega · Member since
The only thing that kept him alive was the dark arts.
FreddieCat · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Zebonka12 wrote:[/b]
The only thing that kept him alive was the dark arts.[/QUOTE]
Do you mean the ark darts? They were scientifically proven to be effective.
thomasquinn 32989 · Member since
I think mainly by breathing roughly 20x per minute without interruption.
malicedoom · Member since
Did the OP really ask that offensive of a question or are some of you just complete TOOLS?
"Basically as the others already said - he was probably infected in the mid-80s, rather than the late 70s, as Freddie was. Thus, when HAART (the 'cocktail' drugs) became available in the mid-90s, he had not yet developed AIDS (HIV infected people take on average 8-10 years to develop AIDS), and was able to control his HIV infection through HAART, and never have it develop into AIDS. Freddie developed AIDS by 1986/87, since he became infected with HIV a number of years before Jim"
This pretty much says it.
I've often wondered the same thing myself. I've always thought Freddie probably caught it in NY - early 80's and, if so, to me it's amazing he lasted as long as he did (but he had the best treatment available at the time, so Jim Hutton's book says - which makes sense).
Hutton says in his book at the end that he eventually started taking the proper meds, and he apparently he DID catch it in enough time that it never went full blown.