What do you think Queen would have been like if Freddie had not got AIDS?

[QUOTE] [b]andyb1968 wrote:[/b]

I agree with jeffab 1995, Deaky would not have stayed with the band post magic tour, he wanted out, regardless of the state of Freddie's health ![/QUOTE]

Yeah I think that Freddie's illness and death were a good "excuse" for John to leave the music industry. The guy is a family man who wants to live far away from the limelights.

Nobody will never know, I think there will be no split up at all. Magic Tour (USA/Japan 1987) And then ? we can not know...

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Good point we live in the reality where freddie became sick worked on Barcelona the miracle and innuendo harder then he had worked before.

End of topic methinks !

Ok topic is dead

So yous lot say no deacy no freddie = no Queen, but you all think Queen are now wonderful with lambo?
make your minds up!

Yeah its one of those subjects you can get lost in you mind about you know and you can only dream up conclusions cause thats all you will be able to do. Just like thinking about how epic would Metallica have been if Cliff Burton didn't die or if Dave Mustaine never got fired, or if Dennis Stratton was kept on and Steve Harris took on board some of his Eagles inspired ideas, whould Deff Leppard still be a heavy metal band and pushing Iron Maiden all the way if Pete Willis didnt get kicked out of his own band or if John Bonham didn't die or Bon Scott didn't die...???? you always get the same old same old what could have happened running through your mind

Great topic and question by (cavier & cigarettes)
Yes if Freddie was still with us, fit and well i am sure the band would continue to work
with more synths although Brian would not be fussed, but Queen would be experimenting
with new styles and sounds.
They would certainly be touring and we would hear those songs we have not heard from "The Miracle"
and "Innuendo" albums.
Freddie may have even engaged in his second solo effort album, and who knows whom he may have worked with!
Still its very sad none of this will ever happen now.

Gerry, ^^^
not a chance. They were starting to dislike each other, they weren't getting on.
It was FREDDIE'S ILLNESS that brought them closer.
By the mid 80s, John was "doing a Ringo" - ie off on holiday after holiday (anything to be away from the band and the business)
Roger was more interested in his solo projects and his female friends. And freddie, well he was into an extremely hedonisitic freefall that would've destroyed the band.
Brian was the only one who truly wanted/needed the band - and that was because it helped divert him away from the dark stuff in his personal life.

They may have done a Fleetwood Mac and reformed a couple of times for tours or the odd album...but no way would they be a a daily business or "going concern".

sure i understand things were strained and it showed after the magic album came out because
it took them another 3 years before another album would surface. i.e "The Miracle"
Maybe that album was named "The Miracle" as they thought a new album may not happen, but it did!
Everyone blames Paul Prenter for getting fred involved in the dark seedier side of the gay scene,
and look what ultimately happened to fred!

[QUOTE] [b]brENsKi wrote:[/b]

Gerry, ^^^
not a chance. They were starting to dislike each other, they weren't getting on.
It was FREDDIE'S ILLNESS that brought them closer.
By the mid 80s, John was "doing a Ringo" - ie off on holiday after holiday (anything to be away from the band and the business)
Roger was more interested in his solo projects and his female friends. And freddie, well he was into an extremely hedonisitic freefall that would've destroyed the band.
Brian was the only one who truly wanted/needed the
band - and that was because it helped divert him
away from the dark stuff in his personal life.


Yes I think this is an accurate assumption.

I also think that A Kind of Magic would have been the final planned album if Freddie hadn't been ill


They may have done a Fleetwood Mac and reformed a couple of times for tours or the odd album...but no way would they be a a daily business or "going concern".

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[QUOTE] [b]gerry wrote:[/b]sure i understand things were strained and it showed after the magic album came out because it took them another 3 years before another album would surface. i.e "The Miracle"[/QUOTE] Fact is the 3-year delay is a bit of a red herring. most bands (once they hit the big time) go three years between albums as a matter of consequence.
They didn't like each other at much at that point. there's no hidden clues like gaps between albums

[QUOTE] [b]gerry wrote:[/b]Everyone blames Paul Prenter for getting fred involved in the dark seedier side of the gay scene, and look what ultimately happened to fred![/QUOTE] who is this "everyone"? do you mean "yourself" when you say "everyone" ? because I am 100,000% sure Freddie as an intelligent, mature adult, only ever blamed himself.

i think the clue there was when Freddie decided to do an album with monty, remember what fred said in an interview
"i am going to into opera, forget rock n roll" sounds like freddie was tired with Queen at that point, that is why they took time out to re-charge there
batteries.

[QUOTE] [b]gerry wrote:[/b]

i think the clue there was when Freddie decided to do an album with monty, remember what fred said in an interview
"i am going to into opera, forget rock n roll" sounds like freddie was tired with Queen at that point, that is why they took time out to re-charge there
batteries.[/QUOTE]

oh God. they didn't re-charge. they came back together as a band when he was unwell. whether or not Brian, Roger and John knew - Freddie did..hence the impetus to record as queen...nothing else. they were tired of each other exactly as i said, and his illness brought them closer. Listen to the may bank holiday Radio1 - "queen for an hour" with Mike Read...it's all there to hear...just listen.
as for the "hiatus" thing i mentioned...for whatever reason...established huge bands do take bigger gaps between albums(occasionally) that's a fact:
zeppelin 1976 - 1979
fleetwood mac 1979 - 1982 - 1987
ac/dc - 1985 -1988 -1995 -1995
the who 1975 - 1978 - 1981
bowie - 1980 - 1983
killers - 2008 - 2012
foos - 1999 - 2002 - 2005 & 2007 - 2011

Brenski you're so spot on, they, the band that is get fed up with each other around the Hot Space period........And indeed the ranks were closed at the time, or around the time they found out Freddie was seriously ill. Almost like a normal family would do......