Why is Body Language so reviled?

gerry wrote:

Todays groups and artists have it far too easy, and success is handed down to then on a gold plate from simon cowell
or who ever can pull the strings.

No they don't. The music business today is totally different from what it was 30 or 40 years ago.

Today a band like Queen would find it hard if not impossible to break through on any level. Management, record companies, product placement advertising all want an instant retire on their outlay and time, so achieving a number one, or at least top five is any even bigger measure of success then it used to be, and is usually the only way that as an artist you can be sure your on the road to a second or third album. The days of letting artists develope as writers and performers has long since gone. With the failure of Keep Yourself Alive to sell, and the failure of the first album to ignite the charts in 2014 Queen would sink quicker than Titanic.

Yes in this instant stardom thing that happens now fame appears any easy step to reach but there is little scope for individuality, and little chance of doing something that your managment or record
company don't want you to do.

Yes there are xceptions, but they are becoming fewer and far between

gerry wrote:well the looser all quits first Brenski ...... bye bye looser! ha ha ha.

much rather be a "looser" [sic] than a winner if it meant being YOU.
one thing i will admit to - here and now - not having the wisdom/intelligence of Thomasquinn/Real Wizard and one or two others who realised some time ago how futile it is trying to reason with you - their intelligence told them to remove themselves from any argument with you. I've now learned they were right- Vocal Harmony will probably be next :-).
so bye Gezza - enjoy your pathetically hollow victory...go and inflict your bad spelling, worse grammer [sic], world knowledge (Rio is in the USA - haha), your self-acclaimed journalistic prowess and depth of queen knowledge (John played bass on "Dancer", hysterical)...yes take it all and inflict it on the next sap that feels they may be able to reason with you.
We all know they won't.

quick joke:
Q: what's the difference between Gezza and a terrorist?
A: you can negotiate and reason with some terrorists.

Vocal harmony wrote:

gerry wrote:

Todays groups and artists have it far too easy, and success is handed down to then on a gold plate from simon cowell
or who ever can pull the strings.

No they don't. The music business today is totally different from what it was 30 or 40 years ago.

Today a band like Queen would find it hard if not impossible to break through on any level. Management, record companies, product placement advertising all want an instant retire on their outlay and time, so achieving a number one, or at least top five is any even bigger measure of success then it used to be, and is usually the only way that as an artist you can be sure your on the road to a second or third album. The days of letting artists develope as writers and performers has long since gone. With the failure of Keep Yourself Alive to sell, and the failure of the first album to ignite the charts in 2014 Queen would sink quicker than Titanic.

Yes in this instant stardom thing that happens now fame appears any easy step to reach but there is little scope for individuality, and little chance of doing something that your managment or record
company don't want you to do.

Yes there are xceptions, but they are becoming fewer and far between

Queen would undoubtedly be an exception. They would be taking the rock band route, not the pop star. Currently successful rock bands like Muse or Kings of Leon did not come flying out the blocks with hit singles.Even so Queen werent that slow to catch fire. Seven Seas of Rhye, Killer Queen, Bohemian Rhapsody were among the first 6 singles released.

AlbaNo1 wrote:


Queen would undoubtedly be an exception. They would be taking the rock band route, not the pop star. Currently successful rock bands like Muse or Kings of Leon did not come flying out the blocks with hit singles.Even so Queen werent that slow to catch fire. Seven Seas of Rhye, Killer Queen, Bohemian Rhapsody were among the first 6 singles released.

i think you should reread my post., quoting Muse and the Kings of leon as bands who have broken through in 2014 just doesnt make sense. I clearly stated that in 2014 not 1998, which from memory was when the first Muse album hit the streets,

yes those first singles you listed sold, but that was 74 onwards. if Queen were an unknown new band releasing their first album now, unless the first single, keep Your Self Alive went top five, which it didnt, they wouldnt be top of the record companies list for promotion, then if the album didnt at the very least go top ten the week it was released that would, more than likely be their career on a major label over. Time and money are not things record companies will invest unless there is an almost instant return. its not like it used to be when artists were given time to evolve.

I look forward to your definition of who has broken in 2014 and what their route was. Presumably they all magically land at a major label with no history or previous releases.

Major labels of course arent just huge conglomerates with dozens and dozens of sub labels , genres, territories and marketing strategies that take into account the type of band it is. And every single one of them needs a top ten single on first release or the band is dropped. I get it now.