Why is Body Language so reviled?

[QUOTE] [b]Stelios wrote:[/b]

Because it showcases the most the transformation of glam rock Freddie to gay clone Freddie. Both in visuals and artistry.
Also the sauna concept was demonised due to AIDS and the bathhouses of U.S (San Fransisco especially). There is a dark tone of explicit (homo)sexuality that afterwards had been associated with death itshelf.

On a more obvious tone, it is the one track that detaches Queen the most from their rock oriented roots.[/QUOTE]

Couldn't have said it better. From seeing the video, you can just imagine the sheer depravity which Freddie was into in those days, and it is such a pity, because it would lead to his demise.

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[QUOTE] [b]Stelios wrote:[/b]

Because it showcases the most the transformation of glam rock Freddie to gay clone Freddie. Both in visuals and artistry.
Also the sauna concept was demonised due to AIDS and the bathhouses of U.S (San Fransisco especially). There is a dark tone of explicit (homo)sexuality that afterwards had been associated with death itshelf.

On a more obvious tone, it is the one track that detaches Queen the most from their rock oriented roots.[/QUOTE]

Couldn't have said it better. From seeing the video, you can just imagine the sheer depravity which Freddie was into in those days, and it is such a pity, because it would lead to his demise.[/QUOTE]

Exactly. He chose a path that was not good for him and he paid with his life. It's a shame because Freddie was only looking for true love.

HOT SPACE IS FAR MORE BETTER THAN WORKS OR A KIND OF MAGIC. AND BODY LANGUAGE IS OK. ALWAYS LIKED IT. VERY INTERESTING FOR QUEEN TO EXPLORE THIS DANCE TERRITORIES. EVERY SONG IN HOT SPACE IS FAR MORE SUPERIOR THAN ...TEAR IT UP

Just wanted to jump in again before Hot Space gets slammed too much (no pun intended).

While I don't think much (at all) of Body Language, I think Staying Power is a GREAT song, and also think it should have been the lead single. I might be in the minority with that opinion, but there ya go...

[QUOTE] [b]gerry wrote:[/b]

Freddie was great on Body Language and it was a great track inspite of the lacking guitars from Brian.
Vocals were still easy to spot as Queen and all in all i liked the track.
Hot space was a great album, no matter what most people think.
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Freddie sung well on it, but it wasn't a great track, which I think even the band realised.

Although they'd released it as a single around the time the album was released, they chose not to play it very often in Europe and the UK

[QUOTE] [b]noorie wrote:[/b]

^^^^^ I kind of disagree. The Living On My Own video was disgusting (to me at least), but I really like the Body Language video.... I do not think they are similar at all. Queen was a rock band, not a church choir.[/QUOTE]

What's disgusting about the Living on my own vid?

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[QUOTE] [b]noorie wrote:[/b]

^^^^^ I kind of disagree. The Living On My Own video was disgusting (to me at least), but I really like the Body Language video.... I do not think they are similar at all. Queen was a rock band, not a church choir.[/QUOTE]

What's disgusting about the Living on my own vid? [/QUOTE]

Noorie is a dwarf and the party did not treat dwarfs with due respect.

Great song, great single, funny video. Evolution and N11 in US Mainstream tracks.
Even in Greatest hits red is included, and Foo Fighters did a commercial using the song. Also in a dance programme in USA.
Underrated song.

Living On My Own video is NOT disgusting. It's rather sweet, actually bittersweet - knowing as we do that many of the people therein are now dead.

And I don't know that John can be blamed for the Body Language video (or the song itself); Either we blame Freddie and (if you like) Paul Prenter or we invoke "collective responsibility" and blame the 4 of them.

Personally I'm pleased they experimented as they did on Hot Space. Some elements of the experiment probably got recycled into later songs, to much greater effect.

It'd be interesting to discuss which elements of Hot Space found their way into later songs.

Body Language is fucking awesome, video and song both. Right down to John Deacon and Brian May trying to look cool and snap their fingers.

[QUOTE] [b]Martin Packer wrote:[/b]

Living On My Own video is NOT disgusting. It's rather sweet, actually bittersweet - knowing as we do that many of the people therein are now dead.

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I do not find the song disgusting. It is indeed very bitter sweet, and one of my favourite Freddie tracks. It is the video I do not like. At all. And I cannot like the video just because the people in it are dead. I have nothing against the song or the people.
The video has a very desperate feel to it. Like everybody is trying too hard..? And that random guy's skinny arse is just too much!

Hey Luthorn, this is where you write that Noorie is a dwarf with a fat arse.. lol!

@noorie My reason for liking the video has nothing to do with many of the participants being dead. It's because it's a fun video. I think it turns out to be what many call 'the last "hoorah!"' - but I don't think it was viewed as such at the time.

I remember seeing it when it came out and thought "what fun!"

^^^^^ I can see your point!

Definitely a bittersweet video, for what I'd hope are obvious reasons.

Back to the song, I still think the version on the USA release (Freddie's "The Great Pretender") is BY FAR the best mix of the (already good) track.

Real Wizard:
Hot Space was not the usual album everyone expected from Queen but it was the start of the 80s, with synths and Duran Duran, Ultravox, Human League etc......
Queen and in particular freddie was excited by the disco funk feel that Queen were doing, especially after the success of "Another one bites the dust".
i gave the album a chance, and ok there is a few weak tracks like "Action this day" "Body Language"
but there is also some great tracks like "Dancer" "Life is real" "Put out the fire" and the smooth "Cool cat".
Love "Hot space" more than "innuendo" and "Made in Heaven"
any day of the week.