Will we ever see another band such as Queen in our lifetime? I think I have
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The Real Wizard · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]oliverd05 wrote:[/b]
the bands of today just dont have the staying power! its sad really but i dont think that any band will because, the way the music industry is these days[/QUOTE]
U2, Green Day and Radiohead have lasted longer than Queen did - with no lineup changes.
Compared to 15 years ago, the music industry is in fantastic shape. The internet has made music so accessible. Music is more diverse than it ever has been.
The only thing standing in the way of anyone seeing that is their own lack of curiosity.
brENsKi · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]oliverd05 wrote:[/b]
the bands of today just dont have the staying power! its sad really but i dont think that any band will because, the way the music industry is these days[/QUOTE]
Hate to break it to you, but U2, Green Day and Radiohead have lasted longer than Queen did - with no lineup changes.[/QUOTE]
Careful Bob, Your facts are about to get destroyed with the one thing that trumps ALL round here - Gezza Opinion
The Real Wizard · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]gerry wrote:[/b]
The Real Wizard: Too be honest i do not care for all the 90s groups that happened after Queen, because they brought nothing special to the table.
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You are so completely wrong.
Plenty of people would argue that OK Computer is more relevant and influential than any album Queen ever made.
[QUOTE] [b]gerry wrote:[/b]
Music in the 90s was dull, the songs were not as clever as the 70s songs were![/QUOTE]
So you just write off an entire decade of music because you couldn't be bothered to search for something good?
What you're saying is actually autobiographical. In the 90s *you* were dull and not as clever as you thought you were in the 70s. The same goes for countless people who pose the same old "things weren't as good as they were when I was a lad" argument. People have been saying that for thousands of years. And nobody with any brains in their head ever took them seriously. Just like now.
The Real Wizard · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]gerry wrote:[/b]
Brenski: Thats unfair to say U2 have been having hits 10 years longer than Queen, if Freddie was still here Queen would tear strips of U2.
Silly comment to say.[/QUOTE]
This isn't even worth responding to, but...
You can't prove that Queen wouldn't have split up in 1992 had Freddie lived.
If your argument against U2's longevity is "another band may have been better had history been different" ... then you're obviously not as smart as you think you are. Your blind hero worship and aversion to facts are both just astounding.
The Real Wizard · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Holly2003 wrote:[/b]
I also think Alter Bridge are something special, although they will never be as big as Queen, Zep etc., because the type of music they play isn't that fashionable.
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That, and they just aren't being marketed. The labels only market what they deem most profitable. But that's not necessarily a bad thing. Bands can still make a decent living playing the theatre circuit.
Alter Bridge have 1/10th the fanbase Creed had. In fact, a fair chunk of Creed fans don't even know that the rest of the guys are in this new band now.
But they do know that Scott Stapp is at rock bottom with addiction and that his wife left him.
That's pop culture for you..
gerry · Member since
Brenski : can you not see what you said? any band will last longer than Queen, did you nor know freddie died in 1991
or do you want fred to make greatest hits 4 5 6 7 8 from his grave?
F A C T !
Oh and by the way, i have had some very nice discussions with people on here while you have
had your tongue in deep freeze thank you very much.
Most people on here are not as argumentative as you, mother theresa!
The Real Wizard · Member since
^ just wow. If only you could see how stupid you look to anyone with an IQ over 90.
The King Of Rhye · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]brENsKi wrote:[/b]
And the band everyone loves to hate - U2 - have been having hits for 10 years longer than queen!
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Good point there....I never really was a big of that band myself, but you have to recognize their longevity and success....they were absolutely huge in the 80s and 90s, maybe one of the biggest bands in the world for a while.......
I think it would be fair to say they were bigger than Queen from the mid-80s on, at least in the US! (even though nothing outside of the UK matters, according to gerry....)
The King Of Rhye · Member since
Total conjecture here, but I think that if Freddie was still alive and Queen were still together, maybe they'd be in the same kinda situation as the Stones or The Who.....having huge selling concert tours, putting out an album once in a while that sells well, but never having anything like the chart success they once did........and I'm not trying to be 'disrepectful' to Freddie here......lol
brENsKi · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]gerry wrote:[/b]Brenski : can you not see what you said? any band will last longer than Queen, did you nor know freddie died in 1991 or do you want fred to make greatest hits 4 5 6 7 8 from his grave? F A C T ![/QUOTE]existing as a band AFTER queen have gone DOES NOT mean lasting longer. queen existed approximately 18 years (in YOUR world) so bands who existed as a hit-recording concern for more than 18 years have more longevity than queen. YOU do not know what longevity means.
here's some bands that didn't last as long as queen:
rainbow, your beloved ABBA, poison, the libertines, faces, small faces, Led Zeppelin, now do you get it?
[QUOTE] [b]gerry wrote:[/b]Most people on here are not as argumentative as you, mother theresa![/QUOTE]but you've also continued to argue with people - because ANYONE who disagrees with gerry is automatically wrong - even when they prove facts against his conjecture-based opinion.
Btw - funny how the only person here that people consistently argue with is YOU...go figure Einstein.
[QUOTE] [b]gerry wrote:[/b]Oh and by the way, i have had some very nice discussions with people on here while you have had your tongue in deep freeze thank you very much. [/QUOTE]one more thing - my tongue hasn't been in deep freeze...i've had a great family christmas while you've been alone in some town centre eating your Turkey-McBollocks, shouting at pigeons and ranting at Qzoners. happy new year!
Day dop · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Holly2003 wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Day dop wrote:[/b]
I was the right age (being a teen) when Nevermind came out. Nothing any of those other bands released hit people my age as hard as Nirvana did. [/QUOTE]
Then again, to quote Bart Simpson, making teenagers depressed is like shooting fish in a barrel.
Nirvana remind me of the Sex Pistols. They come along seemingly "out of nowhere", shake things up, and are remembered as both rebels and the catalyst for change. However, their actual music isn't that special or memorable. Kurt Cobain wasn't even the best musician or lyricist in the band, and I say that as someone who has a lot of time for him, for the band, and for that era of music. [/QUOTE]
Admittedly, Bleach was a bit depressing, but I didn't care for that album, and I didn't pay attention to them until Nevermind, which I didn't find depressing at all.
Smells like Teen Spirit, Come As you Are and Rape Me - a few that spring to mind, are three of the more memorable tunes from the 90s. Smells Like Teen Spirit in particular. That was probably one of the biggest (along with the album it came from), that in many ways defined much of what the 90's were about music-wise, or at least the early half of the 90's, imo.
gerry · Member since
The King of Rhye: you say U2 were the biggest band in the 80s for a while, yet Queen blew them off stage at "Live Aid"
in 1985! Plus Queen were voted THE band of the 80s on tv in 1989 on "The end of the 80s show" ITV.
Queen personally collected the award.
Queen were the greatest group in the 80s easily.
ludwigs · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]gerry wrote:[/b]
The King of Rhye: you say U2 were the biggest band in the 80s for a while, yet Queen blew them off stage at "Live Aid"
in 1985! Plus Queen were voted THE band of the 80s on tv in 1989 on "The end of the 80s show" ITV.
Queen personally collected the award.
Queen were the greatest group in the 80s easily.[/QUOTE]
There really IS no possible hope is there?
TV voting? Gotta be the final word in truth doesn't it?
Bob Sir Wanker, I'm guessing 80 may be a tad too high.....
My 'supposing' (wait, it's coming) is that Gezza thinks quotient is something Rossi and the boys best not do. (boom, boom)
Say it quickly Gez, you may just get it? (Catch the use of word-play yet?)
*goodco* · Member since
The 80s didn't end in '85.
U2 was selling out stadiums in the States in '87. Queen sold how many tickets here after '82?
oy....there is no hope indeed. I'd give anything if this person would contribute to a thread, rather than hijacking it with his constant 'original' thoughts.
The Real Wizard · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]gerry wrote:[/b]
The King of Rhye: you say U2 were the biggest band in the 80s for a while, yet Queen blew them off stage at "Live Aid"
in 1985! Plus Queen were voted THE band of the 80s on tv in 1989 on "The end of the 80s show" ITV.
Queen personally collected the award.
Queen were the greatest group in the 80s easily.[/QUOTE]
Fine, but that still doesn't support your original argument, which is that nothing good has come out of the 90s or beyond. So you're still wrong.
Let me tell you a little story...
I used to think like you. I used to think Queen were the best band ever, that nobody came close, that A Night At The Opera was the greatest album that had ever been recorded (even though I had only heard a few dozen albums front to back). But many people around me had similar experiences with the music they loved. They had albums that moved them beyond belief, that they found to be hugely influential on them and on others. I decided that they weren't bat-shit crazy, that maybe I didn't know everything, and made the decision to see for myself. And there began my journey of searching for music that may connect with me even more than my favourite band did. Sometimes I was successful, sometimes not.
One slight detail - I was 15.
So while I know what it's like to blindly think one band is better than all the rest, I didn't take it a step further by adjusting facts presented to me to suit my beliefs. I adjusted my beliefs to suit the facts.
And you're pushing 50?
Time for a reality check.
Queen aren't the greatest band ever. ANATO isn't the greatest album ever. No Queen album is.
No awards show is going to "prove" these facts when these things are subjective. Being all high and mighty, insisting your opinions are facts and that rejecting any facts that do not coalesce with your opinion is no way to a) make friends, b) convince anyone that you have anything beyond a double digit IQ, and, most importantly c) help you grow.