Funny/sad to see both Brian and Roger are still incredibly bitter about John. Instead of snide remarks about him being fragile and money minded, perhaps they should be open about what they fell out over? I mean, they obviously fell out about something, so it's a bit below the belt to continue making these comments without a wider context.
Costa86 · Member since
It's amazing how a member of one of the most popular musical acts of modern times has become so anonymous. It's always a treat to catch a glimpse of him. I can't really be hard on the photographer.
Funny/sad to see both Brian and Roger are still incredibly bitter about John. Instead of snide remarks about him being fragile and money minded, perhaps they should be open about what they fell out over? I mean, they obviously fell out about something, so it's a bit below the belt to continue making these comments without a wider context.[/QUOTE]
Its pretty obvious what they fell out about.
Negative Creep · Member since
Oh, but they have his approval of everything don't you know! The money remarks make me laugh, when they're both touring using their old band name again with a second stand in singer. No dignity and no creativity either. Nothing stopping either Brian or Roger of releasing music on their own merit and touring by themselves, but they're obviously influenced more by money and ego. There is evidently a fairly explosive story there, if either side wanted to break ranks.
user1 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]mooghead wrote:[/b]
Its pretty obvious what they fell out about.
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Indeed, it is.
[QUOTE] [b]Negative Creep wrote:[/b]
The money remarks make me laugh, when they're both touring using their old band name again with a second stand in singer. No dignity and no creativity either.[/QUOTE]
Exactly.
Funny/sad to see both Brian and Roger are still incredibly bitter about John. Instead of snide remarks about him being fragile and money minded, perhaps they should be open about what they fell out over? I mean, they obviously fell out about something, so it's a bit below the belt to continue making these comments without a wider context.[/QUOTE]
Do you still keep in touch with John Deacon?
May: We don't, really. He doesn't want to. He wants to be private and in his own universe.
Taylor: He's completely retired from any kind of social contact.
Do you ever see or talk to him?
Taylor: No, no. I think he's a little fragile and he just didn't want to know anything about talking to people in the music business or whatever. That's fair enough. We respect that.
May: He still keeps an eye on the finances, though. John Deacon is still John Deacon. We don't undertake anything financial without talking to him.
How are those bitter and snide comments?
Maybe there wasnt a 'falling out', maybe he just wanted no more part of a public life any more....
Or are there other comments they made about John that I am not aware of? (I doubt it, I think I've read every interview Brian and Roger have done in the past year or so......show me, if there are, though!)
The King Of Rhye · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]user1 wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]mooghead wrote:[/b]
Its pretty obvious what they fell out about.
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Indeed, it is.
[QUOTE] [b]Negative Creep wrote:[/b]
The money remarks make me laugh, when they're both touring using their old band name again with a second stand in singer. No dignity and no creativity either.[/QUOTE]
Exactly.[/QUOTE]
Fill me in here, what is the so-obvious thing they 'fell out' about?
Money remarks? Saying John takes care of the finances was the extent of their 'money remarks'.....period.
I just don't see where this line of conversation is coming from at all.
The King Of Rhye · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]gerry wrote:[/b]
Legend Deacy and most underrated bass player in rock.
He looks hacked off, but probably made the right decision to bow out
of Queen at exactly the right time before it went pear shaped!
Respect to fab bass player!
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John hasnt done anything with Queen (or anything in the public eye whatsoever, in fact) since 1997....
Do you think he thought, "Bri and Rog will get new lead singers 8 and 15 years from now, so I better leave now!"
I think if he had wanted to stay involved in music, but not with Queen + whoever, he would have done so by now....surely someone would have wanted his services....
KevoM · Member since
My God, he actually looks a bit like me!
Negative Creep · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]The King Of Rhye wrote:[/b]
John hasnt done anything with Queen (or anything in the public eye whatsoever, in fact) since 1997....
Do you think he thought, "Bri and Rog will get new lead singers 8 and 15 years from now, so I better leave now!"
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No, but his exit from active involvement in Queen related goingsons coincided with Brian and Roger abandoning their own solo career and focusing on exploiting the Queen brand with collaborations with the likes of Britney Spears, Pink, Robbie Williams and Five and the musical. Sure it could be a coincidence, but John Deacon hasn't been actively involved in any of those post Queen projects that many view as woeful.
Re quotes - Roger repeatedly refers to John as being fragile and insinuating he had/has a drink problem and is autistic (!). They have both made a point of commenting that he still has an interest in receiving payment for his past work, insinuating that somehow because he refuses to be involved in Queen activities years after they ended he should let them have it all or something? These are not things you would be saying about someone you genuinely missed, had any concern for or liked. If, having read mulitple responses to the question of John's lack of involvement in Queen related business, you have not picked up the negative vibes.... well then.
To be fair, he only looks unhappy in the one where he's realised he's being photographed.
I wouldn't have recognised him if it were just the last photo. His age has started to show pretty rapidly, I think.[/QUOTE]
Amazes me how on the odd occasion a pic has sneaked out, people keep saying that he's aged badly, looks old etc.....
This is purely because we haven't seen him for nearly 20 years! =[/QUOTE]
I meant since the last pictures came out, only a few years ago max, probably less. Prior to that, we were seeing him scarcely but occasionally enough to paint some sort of picture, and I gathered that he was still looking much the same, except balding, up until fairly recently.
The King Of Rhye · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Negative Creep wrote:[/b]
No, but his exit from active involvement in Queen related goingsons coincided with Brian and Roger abandoning their own solo career and focusing on exploiting the Queen brand with collaborations with the likes of Britney Spears, Pink, Robbie Williams and Five and the musical.
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Not quite.....No One But You was in 97, both Brian and Roger had solo albums and tours in 98....and those collaborations came a bit later.......
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Sure it could be a coincidence, but John Deacon hasn't been actively involved in any of those post Queen projects that many view as woeful.
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But then again, like I said just a little while ago, he hasn't been actively involved in ANYTHING else musically, either...
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Re quotes - Roger repeatedly refers to John as being fragile and insinuating he had/has a drink problem and is autistic (!).
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Can you, or someone else, show me these quotes? I was assuming that the one article you quoted was what you were talking about, but if they made more quotes where they said something like that, I'd like to see....cus it appeared to me that you got that just from the one interview....
Jazz 78 · Member since
Bottom line... John Deacon was not happy being a "rock star" per se'. I've spoken to a few former roadies and this was brought up a couple of times. He just didn't really enjoy it. Some people prefer to just put it behind them and move on. Especially the older you get. But John wrote some wonderful songs and can still collect his royalties through publishing and album sales and all that. It seems what Roger is saying in this particular article about being fragile is that he just doesn't want to be around people in the music business. Brian and Roger have respectfully left him alone though he will be consulted on money issues which Deaky has done since the mid-70's. It's nice to see those photos though. He's like our own little Loch Ness Monster. Scotland has Nessie and we have Deaky.
The King Of Rhye · Member since
Ok heck with it.....I'm looking up various interviews from the past few years to see what BM and RT say about John....and these are the first few I found:
from http://www.queenonline.com/en/features/brian-and-roger-interview-part-3/ (2011)
As I sit here talking to you and Brian, I have to ask why John Deacon doesn’t get involved in Queen projects?
RT: John lives very quietly, and he decided years ago, he’s very nervous and very fragile and he doesn’t really want to deal with a lot of people anymore and I think he found the stress of this business, especially after Freddie died, I think was too much. He would prefer a quiet life I think, but he’s still our partner, you know, he still gets paid. But we really don’t see him very much, he’s very quiet and that’s just the way he likes it I think.
from https://medium.com/cuepoint/kings-of-queen-275158341368
Bassist John Deacon retired in 1997; “He supports our endeavors,” says Taylor, while May adds “he still keeps an eye on the purse strings, because he was always the one who was good at that, but we don’t hear from him—it’s a shame, because he was a damn good bass player.”
from http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/brian-may-talks-new-queen-recordings-freddie-mercury-biopic-20131216
Is Queen bassist John Deacon involved with this project at all?
No, John doesn't want to be. He's in his own space and we respect that. It's a shame, because we would love to have him around but he doesn't want to be in that arena anymore.
It was odd when he wasn't at Queen's induction into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame.
Yeah. Again, he just doesn't want to be walking those roads. We kinda mourn for John as well as Freddie in a sense because there ain't nobody quite like John on those four strings. He's an amazing player and it was just the companionship, as part of the group. Hopefully you'll see that in the film — the relationships we've had were very strong. I do know John's read the script and he's in approval.
Hardly sounds like they were being disrespecftul or insinuating things!
snelly1 · Member since
Slightly off at a tangent perhaps, but he was a director of Queen Touring Limited until quite recently- resigned in June 2012 I think...all of his other directorships haven't really changed in recent years for Queen companies.
