A Night at the Odeon - audio overdubs + video changes
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pittrek · Member since
Hey guys and girls,
did somebody of you make already a list of all audio overdubs done on the new release?
I noticed two things :
- "I rule with m.............. I rule with my right" was replaced with "I rule with my left hand, I rule with my right"
- the ending of Liar is completely different and shorter thanks to a "correction"
plus there are many things which I "suspect" are "touched" but I'm not sure.
Is here somebody good enough for noticing all of the changes? I can provide a stereo flac file in which the left channel will be a mono version of the original TV mix and the right channel will be a mono version of the new mix if it helps.
que.123 · Member since
Hi pittrek, I did notice that Freddie had an off key moment on the piano in Leroy Brown in the original mix which was actually overdubbed/auto tuned in the 2009 broadcast but was simply muted in the new release! On the new video you see Freddie strike the keys but no sound at that moment from the piano, it seems strange they took the trouble to fix it in 2009 but just mute it in 2015?
I wonder what most people would prefer, leave it as it is, overdub it, mute it?
tomchristie22 · Member since
On a related note, where would the overdubs most likely come from? They didn't record any overdubs for Hammersmith in studio, cos it was a live TV broadcast not really intended for any other sort of release at the time. Does it mean they'd have to have come from other ANATO tour shows which were professionally recorded (if there are any such shows)?
jondickens1 · Member since
There's quite a bit of autotune going on on Bohemian Rhapsody. Sounds quite natural to my ear though so not complaining. I wish they did a better job with the mix of Ogre battle tho. The final two "Argh Argh Argh Argh ARRRRRGGGHHH" (If you get my drift?) make me cringe a bit. And why take the guitar feedback sound away from the beginning of KYA?
pittrek · Member since
Something very weird is going on during some bits of KYA and basically all vocals on Liar - the instruments are synchronized perfectly, but the vocals are off. "Ladies and gentlemen, this is Queen" comes in later. Some of Freddie's vocals on Now I'm Here are "off" too.
"Didn't mean to make you cry" is a pretty obvious "fix", just like "shivers down my spine"
Nitroboy · Member since
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[b]que.123 wrote: [/b] I wonder what most people would prefer, leave it as it is, overdub it, mute it?[/QUOTE]
Leave it as it is.
I'm curious as well, as to where all of the overdubs/fixes are sourced from.
pittrek · Member since
If anybody of you guys is interested, check this flac file : https://mega.nz/#!n0d1FYZB!-vw_iY7lwN2DB1nlEWcgyJwzN-R9YjAhupLeDTfOTt0
The left channel contains a mono version of the OGWT broadcast, the right channel contains a mono version of the new DVD I'm listening to it right now and I'm surprised how many changes there are to Fred's vocals.
Bad Seed · Member since
I've not had the chance to compare yet (thanks pittrek btw) but I knew a lot had been done to the vocals. Freddie is off key A LOT on the original broadcast to the point it is hard for me to listen to, let alone enjoy. This new version is a big improvement.
pittrek · Member since
This is a comparison of the QTV version and the new release, let me know what you think about it.
DepeX · Member since
Pittrek would you be so kind to upload the full qtv broadcast? Thank you
alberbal12 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]DepeX wrote:[/b]
Pittrek would you be so kind to upload the full qtv broadcast? Thank you [/QUOTE]
+1 please :)
PD: Really a good research, wow!
Krypto_98 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]pittrek wrote:[/b]
Something very weird is going on during some bits of KYA and basically all vocals on Liar - the instruments are synchronized perfectly, but the vocals are off.
"Ladies and gentlemen, this is Queen" comes in later. Some of Freddie's vocals on Now I'm Here are "off" too.
"Didn't mean to make you cry" is a pretty obvious "fix", just like "shivers down my spine"[/QUOTE]
There is one at "i dont want to die" also
Cruella de Vil · Member since
What are all the complaints about? We've been after this for years, sit back and enjoy it!
Biggus Dickus · Member since
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[b]CruellaDeVille wrote: [/b] What are all the complaints about? We've been after this for years, sit back and enjoy it![/QUOTE]
It's not necessarily about complaining, but about doing research. Personally I find stuff like this interesting.
tomchristie22 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Nitroboy wrote:[/b]
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[b]que.123 wrote: [/b]
I wonder what most people would prefer, leave it as it is, overdub it, mute it?[/QUOTE]
Leave it as it is.
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For sure. One could make the argument that they need to make it clinically perfect in order to survive in today's market, but the fact is that these releases are for a pretty specific and small audience anyway - one that's going to appreciate them more if they haven't been tampered with.
Let Me In Your Heart Again, which probably had pitch correction on it, is a slightly different matter - if Freddie sang some not so good notes on it, and they had no alternative recording, then I think it's an acceptable solution. Especially since if autotune is present on that song, it's quite subtle, unlike some of the live corrections in the last 2 years.