A Night at the Odeon - audio overdubs + video changes

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[b]matte9898 wrote: [/b] Yes, but 24 fps is film speed, like budapest and montreal. The japan's movie doesn't seem to be "slow" like budapest or montreal, maybe because it is 25 fps interlaced (50i) ? Sorry for my bad english[/QUOTE] 

 It was sped up from 24fps to 25pfs (PAL), which was then badly converted to NTSC. Hence the increased speed/pitch and the subpar video quality.

[QUOTE] [b]pittrek wrote:[/b]

Yes, but is 24fps supported by either DVD or BD ? I know both formats support 23.976 fps and that's how Montreal is encoded on the BD if I remember correctly.[/QUOTE]

Blu-ray supports both.
[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray#Video]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray#Video[/url]

I didn't understand why the hell they did a little cut in Freedie's walk to the light in the very beginning of Now I'm Here...

[QUOTE] [b]jjbluecaps wrote:[/b]

I didn't understand why the hell they did a little cut in Freedie's walk to the light in the very beginning of Now I'm Here...[/QUOTE]

It's bizarre! Some of the decisions in this release are completely unfathomable. At least we have both the 2009 BBC broadcast and the WOWOW version in excellent quality to work with should anyone be interested in doing their own edit - the extended intro from 2009 and the extended outro from WOWOW for a start.

At least there aren't overdubs on vocals... Not like on rainbow (november)... For example the end of lap of the gods revisited, where it seems that 400 people are singing...Or the "i want you" part of son and daughter...

[QUOTE] [b]alberbal12 wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]DepeX wrote:[/b]

Pittrek would you be so kind to upload the full qtv broadcast? Thank you [/QUOTE]

+1 please :)

PD: Really a good research, wow![/QUOTE]

Hi Pittrek, if you are not able to share your full QTV version (if it's too close to the official release) is it possible to share the bit NOT on "A Night At The Odeon" marked "Missing" in your side by side comparison i.e. the Bob Harris intro? (I know part of it is in the documentary but it is not the full version).

I do have most of the Bob Harris intro on VHS (no turning time clocks or split screen effects) I will gladly share it if anyone wants it but its missing the bit where he walks on stage.

Thank you.

The thing that bothers me most is the damned BASS GUITAR.
They turned it into some slushy-barely intelligible frequency blended in with the guitar...And I multiple-tested this release on several devices...

PLUS, what about the drums? Is that compression? Or (even worst) are those triggers?!...By no means that's how RMT's recorded drums sounded in the '70s (ok, I wasn't there...But...), or is it just my impression?

(same applies for the Rainbow release)

[QUOTE] [b]***JAN*** wrote:[/b]

The thing that bothers me most is the damned BASS GUITAR.
They turned it into some slushy-barely intelligible frequency blended in with the guitar...And I multiple-tested this release on several devices...

PLUS, what about the drums? Is that compression? Or (even worst) are those triggers?!...By no means that's how RMT's recorded drums sounded in the '70s (ok, I wasn't there...But...), or is it just my impression?

(same applies for the Rainbow release)[/QUOTE]

Yeah it has to be extreme compression on the drums and it sounds awful.

I picked up on the opening line to Black Queen immediately but didn't do so with Liar until a second listen.

Overall the sound seems like they are playing to a outdoor stadium rather than a indoor concert hall.

I think Queen productions and the people who work for BM and RT are very much a closed shop, and this DVD like so many other releases provide jobs for the boys.

I don't doubt that they want the best sound, and picture, reproduction as possible, but if the staff they employ are not capable or believe what they are doing is good and are then telling the band this is it this is the best that can be done with the recordings we have, then maybe that is being exepted as fact. If you have a belief in what you are told you are less likely to question it.

It's a sad fact but every other current re release or new release of old recordings by other artists seem to have less questionable production then anything with the Queen name on it.

^Very good post.

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[QUOTE] [b]***JAN*** wrote:[/b]

The thing that bothers me most is the damned BASS GUITAR.
They turned it into some slushy-barely intelligible frequency blended in with the guitar...And I multiple-tested this release on several devices...

PLUS, what about the drums? Is that compression? Or (even worst) are those triggers?!...By no means that's how RMT's recorded drums sounded in the '70s (ok, I wasn't there...But...), or is it just my impression?

(same applies for the Rainbow release)[/QUOTE]

Yeah it has to be extreme compression on the drums and it sounds awful.[/QUOTE]


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They let Greg Brooks taking part into the graphic process. We have all saw what great ....ahum... artwork Qp came with .

Don't tell me he is also involved in the mixing process. LOL

*sigh* I've written this before, but I'll do it again.
The cover artwork was created by this company http://marmaladelondon.co.uk/

[QUOTE] [b]Nitroboy wrote:[/b]

*sigh* I've written this before, but I'll do it again.
The cover artwork was created by this company http://marmaladelondon.co.uk /[/QUOTE]

Marmalade may have physically put it together, but the sleevenotes state that "art direction and design" is jointly by Greg Brooks.

it is without a doubt the worst cover they have ever had, and almost makes Richard Gray's Montreal cover look like a masterpiece.

As a design student, I think Rock Montreal has a refreshingly slick and clean looking cover.

This on the other hand: http://static.queenonline.com.s3.amazonaws.com/cms_page_media/141449390684608/original_resize_720_360.jpg

Bet that was done by the same guys that did the cover to Odeon.

I really doubt the cover design was done by Marmalade London. They have such a huge list of prestigious clients and projects.