A Few Things Explained - in reference to the recent Dutch Queen Day

brians wig wrote:

YourValentine wrote:

Look at what GB says about the "On Air" release: it has the six BBC sessions plus "some other surprises".

Maybe he was being sarcasticand really meant it will be "no surprise".... ;-)

Well, it was a surprise, wasn't it? :-) So much so that the overwhelmimgly surprised fans overran the comment section of QOL with their delight and forced them to close :-)

YourValentine wrote:

I would not hold my breath for GB to return to this thread and answer questions. After all, he did open it to promote the 3D book and his live book which was not an issue on the Dutch Queendag. It's just a part of the game.

Look at what GB says about the "On Air" release: it has the six BBC sessions plus "some other surprises". Since there has been the press release in the mean time, we already know about the "surprises" and can wonder if GB really thinks there is a surprise fans should be happy about or if he is having a private joke about the nature of this surprise. Either way I can only recommend to stop hoping for the band to change their ways. It's obvious that the remaining two members have no interest in the roots and artistic history of their own music and no interest in their most loyal fans, so we should reconsider this loyalty and maybe follow the example and give up our expectations. If the only incitement for the band is money and how they can market more of the same. we should care more about our money and not waste it on this second class crap.

^^^^^^^^this this this

So well put, YV. Exactly my feelings. For the very first time in my life I won´t be buying a Queen release like a blind zombie just for the sake of keeping my collection complete. I´ll go for the 2cd version and maybe (big maybe!) the vinyls (depending on the effort they´ve put on the audio), and of course will illegally download the deluxe edition (or not, who knows, ha!) just for listening to the live cd probably once and .... those interviews, yeah, maybe I´ll finish listening to them during the next couple of years or so (indeed, fascinating stuff, go check any deluxe box from any other artist; plenty of interviews, that´s what fans are demanding more!)

And seriously, it surprises me so much me the super-polite and exquisite way many of you are still adressing your questions to GB. Like he´s a prime minister, the pope or any big authority. Haven´t you witnessed the many times he´s been rude, unpolite and laughed at the faces of so many people here? Haven´t you witnessed the many times he only appears here for his own interests and disappears when he´s got what he needs?

I respect everybody´s choices, but this fact in particular made my jaw drop after reading the thread.

Perhaps people are being respectful because he has been respectful in this thread?

soxtalon wrote:

Perhaps people are being respectful because he has been respectful in this thread?

for once in his life? perhaps, take my hand and say hallelujah

I´m not saying people shouldn´t be respectful, but some posts, written as if addressed to the Queen of England, are almost hilarious, considering to whom are really addressed to.

As per usual he comes here, briefly, and then does a runner....
The way he portrays himself, you'd think he was being asked to disclose the nuclear launch codes!
A man full of his own self importance. Yes we need all that you fans can give us and in return you will be treated with utter contempt.
Maybe he should stick to posting on QOL where negative comments can be deleted, as in his own mind he is far superior to criticism

It is pretty obvious we've all grown tired of the routine I wrote about in mg post earlier in this thread.

There's indeed no use in the archivist giving hints of rarities if those rarities are being ignored for inclusion in products such as this On air release.

The only rarity I've seen and heard in so many years is Greg Brooks.


Tom

TomP63 wrote:
The only rarity I've seen and heard in so many years is Greg Brooks.

Shit quality though.

True Barry, so true, for some reason he is repetitive, so far I've heard the constant Property of Queen Productions....



Tom

The more civil the approach to Greg, the likelier he is to return. Although he does come across as a delicate little flower at times, its hardly surprising he's here so infrequently. I've been as guilty as anyone in the past at hauling him over coals, but, surely, even GB can't be responsible for the continual level of incompetence? Only the band and Jim Beach can be at fault here and have their decision-making questioned.

To achieve that sort of level of incompetence takes real teamwork.

Doctorates in space dust and degrees in dentistry are a must for having studied hard enough to know just how to stuff up.

Greg brooks if you return you should plan or mention a release for the marquee next year as a 45 year anniversary its a win win since jesus was played live its sure to be bought by queen fans and it would make for a good christmas release

Benn Kempster wrote:
GB can't be responsible for the continual level of incompetence? Only the band and Jim Beach can be at fault here and have their decision-making questioned.

Of course he's not responsible in anyway.
His job is to catalogue the archive and present ideas (in collaboration with a couple of other people) for future releases.
That is as far as Greg's association goes (with the exception of them writing notes for what does eventually come out).
One thing you do learn from his Convention talks is that by the time a release does come out, it's far less than the original idea, and that's down to B, R, Jim and then the record company.

No one should put any blame on GB for any of the poor releases.

brians wig wrote:
No one should put any blame on GB for any of the poor releases.

Thing is, i don't think the releases are that poor (the live shows, not the endless compilations), most of them are good but they have to polish the details.

This On Air with the BBC tracks is perfect, but the deluxe content is so tacky. 3CDs of chopped interviews and bits of different shows in 1 CD is really an excercise of bad taste.

If instead of the actual product Queen On AIr had only one edition with a 3CD release of the BBC tracks and the complete Golders Green most of the fans will be more than happy. The difference is not that much, just minor details, but minor details are the key between something good and something brilliant.