A Few Things Explained - in reference to the recent Dutch Queen Day

Greg:
A few weeks ago, someone here who purports to be "in the know", commented that it would be worth us buying both the 6 CD set AND the 2 CD set, suggesting that there were differences.
Is this the case?

Ideally I'd like to discover that whilst the 2CD set contains the songs, the 6 CD set also contains all the inbetween DJ banter (if it exists - which we know it at least does for Session 5)

[QUOTE] [b]GB: Queen Archivist wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]YourValentine wrote:[/b]

It's obvious that the remaining two members have no interest in the roots and artistic history of their own music and no interest in their most loyal fans, so we should reconsider this loyalty and maybe follow the example and give up our expectations.

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GB: This is precisely what I was taking about elsewhere in this thread. You've been saying things like this for years and years, YourValentine, and yet here you still are, still saying it, and no doubt you'll still be saying the same things again in the future, and still you'll be here, with no plans to change anything. When will you make the change you so frequently endorse, I wonder. Sounds to me like such a break would be beneficial to your heavy and disillusioned soul. [/QUOTE]

I did make the change, thanks for worrying about my mental state. I will still voice my opinion if that is okay for you.

Greg, I'd be interested to know (and I fully appreciate it's only your view not the 'official' stance from the band) Why after all these years the 'band' feel it's not worth doing/a priority/enough interest in producing more 70's DVD's?

Is it that they are not happy with the performance? not happy with the quality of the recording? or feel not enough money will be generated by sales to make it worth investing in production?

It's the one thing older fans have been screaming for over the years, yet it always seem to be disregarded by QP However the 74 DVD's were hugely popular with fans, surely they see that 77-9 gigs would be also?

Just asking for your viewpoint on this really, I realise it's out of your control

Being that the band are such perfectionists, surely they would want the best possible visual and audio representation of their various seventies gigs apart from the below par bootleg footage and audio thats floating around. Its always baffled me. We're so into the quality of our product but we're happy for you to watch some of our best gigs in crap substandard quality online.

Greg, could you please answer why were three live shows crammed into one disc ?!
Even Golders Green Hippodrome show isn't in its entirety let alone Sao Paulo or Mannheim...
IMO, it was a horrible horrible decision.
I am quite positive that all of us would be very happy to get just the GGH concert as long as it was complete.
Looking forward to your answer.
Thank you

Should have just kept it to a triple CD release with Golders Green (no other concert fragments or interviews)
As it stands, the 6 CD release is a complete mess.
I don't need it in front of me to know that.

[QUOTE] [b]mooghead wrote:[/b]

If I was Queen Archivist I would give you load of moaning wingers fuck all. Throw you a few scraps now and then and watch you all combust.[/QUOTE]

Come on Mooghead you're just quoting from the official QPL mission statement: "give those moaning wingers fuck all, just throw them a few scraps now and then"!

[QUOTE] [b]Fastidious and Precise wrote:[/b]

Being that the band are such perfectionists, surely they would want the best possible visual and audio representation of their various seventies gigs apart from the below par bootleg footage and audio thats floating around. Its always baffled me. We're so into the quality of our product but we're happy for you to watch some of our best gigs in crap substandard quality online. [/QUOTE]

^ this, this, THIS !

People will find it on YouTube anyway, and the "substandard" copy in the Queen archive is nowhere near as bad as what millions of viewers have already seen and will continue to see.

It simply defies all logic.

We are now in the age of the box set. These things won't be marketable forever. Queen are lagging far behind artists like Springsteen, King Crimson and Pink Floyd, never mind the Grateful Dead and their 50 disc box sets.

QPL need to realize what their customers actually want, and being aware of what other bands are doing would be a reasonably good start.

It would be nothing short of tragic if tapes of all these great bands would rot away in an attic.

[QUOTE] [b]que.123 wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]mooghead wrote:[/b]

If I was Queen Archivist I would give you load of moaning wingers fuck all. Throw you a few scraps now and then and watch you all combust.[/QUOTE]

Come on Mooghead you're just quoting from the official QPL mission statement: "give those moaning wingers fuck all, just throw them a few scraps now and then"!

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Ha ha ... very true, they are throwing us scraps.

Apart from a handful of songs the BBC sessions have already been officially released (1989 At The Beeb, 2011 Remasters bonus disks and "The Sun" free giveaway) not to mention the fact that we have all had them for years in excellent quality thanks to the famous share that occurred from a well known collector.

They then try and flog us incomplete concerts when we all have them complete in our collections, you couldn't make it up. OK they may have done some remastering, they may have increased Freddie's vocal on Golders Green but there is not enough there to make me want to buy it.

What I don't understand is with the plethora of soundboards/multitracks sitting wherever Brian/QPL has them stored, coupled with how EASY it is to find concerts in that collection worth releasing given the bands extremely high ability to give amazing performances, why has QPL not gone a similar route The Doors have with their Bright Midnite Archive releases? Cleaning up/remastering the sound the best they can and releasing shows with nice but economical packaging with the occasional deluxe boxset here and there. It's fucking Queen so they'd definitely make a killing. The sound doesnt have to be perfect. Hell the first thing I ever got from The Doors' BMA stuff was Live in Vancouver 1970. That's just a stage recording! I was 16 or 17 at the time and I was certainly no audiophile and I loved it all the same. There's no reason why a band as prolific as Queen cant do the same.

[QUOTE] [b]thomasquinn 32989 wrote:[/b]

Greg: do you understand that many long-time fans feel, at the very least, mocked by the *fact* that over the past years, the kinds of live-releases fans were asking for were dismissed as not interesting to a general public, only to be faced with a box-set for Queen On Air that is interesting only to the most devoted fans, being 50% interview material?

Don't get me wrong - I'm very happy with the 2cd with the, apparently complete, BBC Sessions, it's something I've been waiting for literally for years. I was also VERY happy with the Rainbow set, and I bought the big box to show my enthousiasm for these kinds of releases. But I cannot comprehend why a 6cd deluxe edition of the BBC sessions is supplemented with one disc with *butchered* concert recordings (come on Greg, snippets from THREE concerts on one disc?) and THREE discs with interviews. Are interviews interesting? Absolutely. Are any but the most devoted fans going to listen to them more than a few times? Absolutely not.

You complain about a lot of the comments you get on QZ. I get that, and you're not wrong. But you (or the people you answer to, I don't know what you do and do not communicate) are also ignoring valuable input from not just fans, but some of the most knowledgeable and competent Queen-fans in the world. We have people on this site who have done much documentary work and research into many aspects of Queen's history, people who work wonders on restoring bootleg recordings and much more. You (meaning everyone at Queen Productions, not just you personally) could benefit greatly from what we have to offer, but you choose not to, and instead lump everyone on the "moaning-trolls" pile.

Moreover, QueenZone offers you a very good look at your fan-base. The heavily-moderated QOL does not give you as honest an insight into what moves your potential customers. You might not always like what you see, but it is unwise to ignore unwelcome truths. Please, in the future, use the fan-base to your advantage. Find out what kind of additional material would make them buy deluxe box-sets of releases that would, in their basic form, appeal to a general public.

Many other great bands are currently outperforming Queen with the quality of their releases. Archival materials of all kinds are in vogue now. Were the Freddie-box released today, it would be a hot item, but 3 discs of interviews are not. But now you are at risk of missing out on this wave of popularity for these kinds of releases. It is unlikely to last forever.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE] [b]GinjaNinja wrote:[/b]

Seeing as you've returned Greg, any chance you could address my Rainbow query? If you do, I promise that I'll stop spamming it in every thread in which you post ;)

[QUOTE] [b]GinjaNinja wrote:[/b]

Thanks for taking the time to answer some queries Greg, are you allowed to say why Big Spender/Bama Lama Bama Loo from the March Rainbow show weren't included on the release? Are there rights issues with the latter, as I notice it is one of the Golders Green tracks which also won't be on "On Air"?

If you're able to suggest it at any point, a Crazy Tour box with a Hammersmith DVD & Newcastle on CD would pretty much be my dream release…[/QUOTE]
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GB: I honestly cannot recall the details now. It would have been a band decision, certainly not mine. I know that we tried very hard to offer as much as was possible on that Rainbow package.

[QUOTE] [b]mooghead wrote:[/b]

If I was Queen Archivist I would give you load of moaning wingers fuck all. Throw you a few scraps now and then and watch you all combust.[/QUOTE]


GB: Moorhead, you sound like a charming fellow.

I have some pieces of pork leftovers and some stale bread crusts here. Come and get them. I'll save them for you.

[QUOTE] [b]YourValentine wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]GB: Queen Archivist wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]YourValentine wrote:[/b]

It's obvious that the remaining two members have no interest in the roots and artistic history of their own music and no interest in their most loyal fans, so we should reconsider this loyalty and maybe follow the example and give up our expectations.

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GB: This is precisely what I was taking about elsewhere in this thread. You've been saying things like this for years and years, YourValentine, and yet here you still are, still saying it, and no doubt you'll still be saying the same things again in the future, and still you'll be here, with no plans to change anything. When will you make the change you so frequently endorse, I wonder. Sounds to me like such a break would be beneficial to your heavy and disillusioned soul. [/QUOTE]

I did make the change, thanks for worrying about my mental state. I will still voice my opinion if that is okay for you.[/QUOTE]



GB: Hmmmm! Well, if you must!

I see you quoted thomasquinn 32989, but do you have a reply for him?