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Do you have proof Trump is a Racist? Ok, my original comment to costa was a knee Jerk reaction. The paper" The News, Especially facebook. is all about politics. Anti Trump Rants, and on the other side Trump Worship arguing back and forth. Then I come here and some Anti Trump comments got me pissed. I'm sick of hearing it. So, I apologize to Mr. Costa and one of my Musical idols Brian May for my comments, but My pet peve is that I don't like hypocrites. I'll get in a few point a little later on why I think obama was not a great president, the worst president was a bit harsh though. I'm off to work nowl.

If your pet peeve is not liking hypocrites, you should shut up right now. Republicans, and Trump, spent the past EIGHT YEARS attacking the democrats and Obama whenever they could, mostly on the basis of MADE UP BS. Remember the 'birther controversy'? Remember the claims of Obama being a Muslim who loves Al Qaeda and ISIS? Remember ANY of the vile, racist and TREASONOUS lies we've been faced with for EIGHT YEARS? But now, because a right-winger is in charge, we should pretend that never happened and all act like demure subjects to a benevolent despot in 18th century fashion? And you call yourself an American?

Does it not strike you as a little odd, being an independent, as you say, that the party that accused the Democrats of being chummy with America's enemies, without any proof, does not see any problems in being led by a man who has nothing but praise for the KGB-colonel running Russia like a dictator, with a foreign minister who got an actual AWARD for being chummy with the moguls around Putin, with a national security advisor (Genl. Flynn) who was not just fired for leaking military secrets but is now under investigation by the security services as he made several calls of a suspicious nature to Russian 'diplomats' under investigation by said security services? Do you not see any hypocrisy there?

And then you have the gall to call Obama "the worst" president, then later calling that remark "a bit harsh". It's not "a bit harsh", it's a statement demonstrating incredible ignorance of the history of the American presidency. Do you even know ANY American history? Have you ever even *heard* of Herbert Hoover, Franklin Pierce, James Buchanan, Ulysses Grant, Warren Harding and the likes? Or, if that's too far back, do you remember Bush?

[QUOTE] [b]Oscar J wrote:[/b]

"Good fucking Question!"

The F bomb, good start.

"My original complaint was stated by a liberal"

You don't know he's a liberal, as previously stated.

"crybaby"

He has not come across as being a crybaby before. Maybe you're just attacking his person because he disagrees with you and you don't have any good counter arguments.

"who has the nerve to put down our new president. He doesn't even live in America."

Trump is a problem that concerns us all. The vast majority of people outside of America realise that he's a terrible and potentially very dangerous choice for president. And we're entitled to that opinion.

"Obama was the worst"

He certainly wasn't. Proof please.

"Trump is already creating Jobs by the way. "

Maybe he can create a few jobs, but at what cost? Employing a few thousand americans in a coal power plant spewing out as much CO2 as 10 million people.

"Gave the military their biggest raise in ages."

Great, just what the world needed.

"He'll be great for the economy in my opinion. "

That's not an argument, you don't have any proof for that.

"And these liberal rioters might facing Jail time."

And you certainly wouldn't mind. No wonder you support Trump. Narrow-mindedness and intolerance.

"Obama would have applauded these losers."

Straw man.

"Wizard, it figures you would be down with these celebrities like Madonna, who say's shes 'gonna burn down the White House!"

Straw man.

"Even Brian May with his anti Trump rants, But Mr May didn't a have Problem with Clintion when he was screwing any girl with a pulse."

Straw man.

"I hate hypocrites!"

You're just rambling now. But yes, hate is probably one of the big reasons for people voting for Trump. That usually ends well, history tells us.

"Or being unfaithful to his wife May was, but has the nerve to say shit about Trump."

He never groped random women, he didn't systematically insult them or belittle them. May is vastly more intelligent than Trump and like most clever people sees him for the person he is: a sexist, racist demagogue.[/QUOTE]

What? No wonder you support Trump narrow mindedness and intolerance? So you're saying it's ok for rioters to burn down cities, put cars on fire, and sending 5 police officers to the hospital because they didn't get what they wanted? Of corse they should be punished. A big difference between protesting peacefully and rioting. It's against the law to destroy property, and assaulting a police officers. Wow, people like you are what's wrong with the country for last 8 years. That's plain sick that you think I'm wrong for wanting some type punishment for these people. You really are obamas fan boy.

Well, I missed that you wrote rioting. While I can understand it to some degree, I agree that it should not be tolerated. The rest of my points still stand though.

Obama failures as president is why the people voted trump in, also the hillary scandals. In the end people didn't trust her. It's really that simple. The idea that people voted only because he's a white male is a lie, these are same people who voted for obama twice. Some of obamas failures include obama care, rising healthcare costs racked up more debt than the previous 43 presidents combined. Even bill clinton stated obama care is a crazy system. Help eliminate racial tensions? Racial tensions reaches a new high in his 2nd term, he chose to embrace the Black lives matter movement, thanks to rhetoric acts of violence within BLM. There was a sharp increase in shooting deaths of police officers in the last 2 years. Saving us from depression? Really? In a American poll 72 percent said that America was still in a recession, that's no dispute given the sluggishness of our recovery. The economic growth has been the weakest of any post recession period since world war 11. I wrote enough for now, but i'll write about some foreign policy failures like Bangazi soon, and weak boarder control.

Oh, and the rise of isis, Releasing terrorists, and his most recent disaster the pardoning of Chelsea Manning. To be Continued!

[QUOTE] [b]mike hunt wrote:[/b]

Good fucking Question! My original complaint was stated by a liberal crybaby who has the nerve to put down our new president. He doesn't even live in America. Obama was the worst and Bush was horrible. Trump is already creating Jobs by the way. Gave the military their biggest raise in ages. He'll be great for the economy in my opinion. And these liberal rioters might facing Jail time. Obama would have applauded these losers. Wizard, it figures you would be down with these celebrities like Madonna, who say's shes 'gonna burn down the White House! Even Brian May with his anti Trump rants, But Mr May didn't a have Problem with Clintion when he was screwing any girl with a pulse. I hate hypocrites! Or being unfaithful to his wife May was, but has the nerve to say shit about Trump. [/QUOTE]

This post is one of the worst examples of gish gallup I've ever seen. There is just so much bullshit, opinions posed as fact, selective history, ad hominems, and straw man arguments to even begin to dissect it (thank goodness someone already did).

You wouldn't even be able to compete on a high school debate team, never mind with adults. Sorry man. Maybe you're the one who should just stick to music.

[QUOTE] [b]mike hunt wrote:[/b]

Do you have proof Trump is a Racist?[/QUOTE]

He was endorsed by KKK members, and he said nothing in response.

The fact that he was elected president on these grounds alone is terrifying to anyone with an IQ over 85.

[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]mike hunt wrote:[/b]

Do you have proof Trump is a Racist?[/QUOTE]

He was endorsed by KKK members, and he said nothing in response.

The fact that he was elected president on these grounds alone is terrifying to anyone with an IQ over 85.
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He denied any involvement with the KKK, i remember him saying that was nonsense.

[QUOTE] [b]mike hunt wrote:[/b]

Some of obamas failures include obama care[/QUOTE]
The 20 million people who no longer have to choose between groceries and seeing the doctor disagree with you. Before Obamacare, people literally died because they couldn't afford health care or because insurance companies screwed them by making up pre-existing conditions to avoid having to pay out when people needed it most.

[QUOTE]racked up more debt than the previous 43 presidents combined.[/QUOTE]
Source? Is that adjusted for inflation?

Obama cut a trillion dollars from the deficit. I think you don't know the difference between "debt" and "deficit."

[QUOTE]There was a sharp increase in shooting deaths of police officers in the last 2 years.[/QUOTE]
Because racist police officers have been targeting blacks worse than ever in the same period. There is systematic racism in countless police forces across the country.

[QUOTE]In a American poll 72 percent said that America was still in a recession[/QUOTE]
That's nice - but a recession isn't a matter of people's opinion. The US is currently not in recession. Obama pulled America out of the recession that Bush left it in.

[QUOTE]The economic growth has been the weakest of any post recession period since world war 11.[/QUOTE]
Source?

[QUOTE]i'll write about some foreign policy failures like Bangazi soon, and weak boarder control.[/QUOTE]
Please don't, because you're probably going to be wrong, like 95% of what you spew out. But if you do, please learn how to spell "Benghazi" and "border" first.

[QUOTE] [b]mike hunt wrote:[/b]

the rise of isis[/QUOTE]
Which can be blamed on presidents going back to Reagan. The middle east hates the west because it has been meddling in their affairs for decades. Bush's swift response to 9/11 created what led to ISIS. Before that the enemy was Al Qaeda - a small fringe group in caves. The seeds for ISIS were planted long before Obama was in power.

[QUOTE]Releasing terrorists[/QUOTE]
Source? Terrorists, or suspected terrorists for which they had no proof?

[QUOTE]and his most recent disaster the pardoning of Chelsea Manning.[/QUOTE]
Five years wasn't enough? And the US army killing over 100,000 Iraqi civilians and they get off scot free? Manning educated the country about the illegal war, and was thoughtful to ensure that the information she leaked wouldn't endanger anyone (and it hasn't).

[QUOTE] [b]mike hunt wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]mike hunt wrote:[/b]

Do you have proof Trump is a Racist?[/QUOTE]

He was endorsed by KKK members, and he said nothing in response.

The fact that he was elected president on these grounds alone is terrifying to anyone with an IQ over 85.
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He denied any involvement with the KKK, i remember him saying that was nonsense.[/QUOTE]

He was endorsed by them as early as February last year, and waited until five days before the election to finally say something.

He wanted the white supremacist vote.

You are blind if you think otherwise.

Seriously - you need to stop talking politics. Your partisanship has completely obliterated your ability to think critically. You spew out talking points with no regard for factual information. You are occasionally correct, but even a broken clock is right twice a day.

[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]mike hunt wrote:[/b]

Good fucking Question! My original complaint was stated by a liberal crybaby who has the nerve to put down our new president. He doesn't even live in America. Obama was the worst and Bush was horrible. Trump is already creating Jobs by the way. Gave the military their biggest raise in ages. He'll be great for the economy in my opinion. And these liberal rioters might facing Jail time. Obama would have applauded these losers. Wizard, it figures you would be down with these celebrities like Madonna, who say's shes 'gonna burn down the White House! Even Brian May with his anti Trump rants, But Mr May didn't a have Problem with Clintion when he was screwing any girl with a pulse. I hate hypocrites! Or being unfaithful to his wife May was, but has the nerve to say shit about Trump. [/QUOTE]

This post is one of the worst examples of gish gallup I've ever seen. There is just so much bullshit, opinions posed as fact, selective history, ad hominems, and straw man arguments to even begin to dissect it (thank goodness someone already did).

You wouldn't even be able to compete on a high school debate team, never mind with adults. Sorry man. Maybe you're the one who should just stick to music.
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What's the problem with that post? That madonna said she was gonna burn down the white house? She in fact said that. That bill clinton was a womenizer? How is that not a fact? That democrates are rioting and injuring cops and burning cars? Is that fact or opinion? Will Trump create Jobs and be a good president? That is an opinion on my part, and I might be eating those words in 4 years. What part of my post was bullshit?

Sure, Madonna said that. But bringing that up and somehow linking me to it is called a straw man argument, as well as an ad hominem.

And sure, Clinton was a womanizer (again, learn to spell). But once again, straw man argument - completely irrelevant to the discussion.

Democrats injuring cops and burning cars - of course, not cool. Obviously. But once again, straw man argument - completely irrelevant to the discussion.

Until you understand these logical fallacies and realize how often you use them, you just aren't going to be debating at a level that is seen as respectable at even a high school level.

Go cry in your panties with Madonna and lady Ga Ga, laughing out loud! The American people have spoken, and we wern't happy with obama and most us don't trust hillary. Bush was horrible as well, 9/11 happened on his watch.