mike hunt
I get my Info from the paper, the news, and from everyday people. I thought it was a known fact obamcare was a mess. This is the first time I heard anything positive about it.
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mike hunt
I just remembered the source of some my claims, the New York Post. I believe the article is called, time to face the facts Obama presidency was a failure. So Just type that in. But, remember the Info your getting is gonna differ from my sources. I'll try too remember my other sources. Sorry for all the mistakes with spelling, i have a small phone and don't proof read, as I do have full life. A Job, family. Unlike some people!
mike hunt
Don't believe the lie that obama is leaving Trump with a healthy economy. That's another source. Type that In. The problem is you watch too much CNN. They're known to bash Trump. Read other sources besides CNN.
mike hunt
Obamas last report card written by williamson. Another source about the economy.
mike hunt
Online Journal. Obama's failed presidency. That's my last source for now, read away!
mike hunt
Just one more on race relations. How Obama turned back the clock on race relations. Ny Post I believe wrote this one. Wizard, you say white cops are killing Blacks at it's highest rate and that's why cops are being shot? I could easily give you reliable sources that states the highest crime rate js black on black crime. Over 93% in fact. I just heard on the news a few minutes ago that 2 cops were just shot and killed a few blocks from me. You think that will make the news? No BLM marches?
The Real Wizard
[QUOTE] [b]mike hunt wrote:[/b]
I just remembered the source of some my claims, the New York Post. I believe the article is called, time to face the facts Obama presidency was a failure. So Just type that in.[/QUOTE]
The New York Post is a right wing rag, propagating views that will benefit the right wing agenda, which is to benefit corporations.
You are reading almost exclusively right wing newspapers, and probably only talking to right wing people.
This really goes to show how polarized your country is. There are two completely different groups of people having two completely different conversations about the same events.
You say this is the first you've heard about Obamacare being a good thing. Well, that probably sounds like you live in a more wealthy, white neighbourhood, with only fragmented pieces of information becoming part of your dialogue with your neighbours.
Obamacare is far from perfect, but it has literally ensured that less people will die because they cannot afford health care. The fact that you weren't aware of this until now is honestly shocking and bewildering. In Canada the news is far more balanced, and we hear all sides of it. This is why the majority of Canadians kind of scratch our heads when half of America says they want to repeal Obamacare - because it will result in people dying.
But half of America isn't even aware of that side of it.
And the insurance companies benefit from their ignorance.
This is how right wing media works. And half the country is completely clueless.
I just remembered the source of some my claims, the New York Post. I believe the article is called, time to face the facts Obama presidency was a failure. So Just type that in.[/QUOTE]
The New York Post is a right wing rag, propagating views that will benefit the right wing agenda, which is to benefit corporations.
You are reading almost exclusively right wing newspapers, and probably only talking to right wing people.
This really goes to show how polarized your country is. There are two completely different groups of people having two completely different conversations about the same events.
You say this is the first you've heard about Obamacare being a good thing. Well, that probably sounds like you live in a more wealthy, white neighbourhood, with only fragmented pieces of information becoming part of your dialogue with your neighbours.
Obamacare is far from perfect, but it has literally ensured that less people will die because they cannot afford health care. The fact that you weren't aware of this until now is honestly shocking and bewildering. In Canada the news is far more balanced, and we hear all sides of it. This is why the majority of Canadians kind of scratch our heads when half of America says they want to repeal Obamacare - because it will result in people dying.
But half of America isn't even aware of that side of it.
And the insurance companies benefit from their ignorance.
This is how right wing media works. And half the country is completely clueless.
The Real Wizard
Vox
The Atlantic
New York Times
Washington Post
The Guardian
Slate
NPR
These are the most unbiased news sources I've found in the US. They are all examples of quality, thoughtful investigative journalism.
Just about everything else is too polarized to either side. And as long as we trust fact checkers, they would almost certainly agree with me.
The Atlantic
New York Times
Washington Post
The Guardian
Slate
NPR
These are the most unbiased news sources I've found in the US. They are all examples of quality, thoughtful investigative journalism.
Just about everything else is too polarized to either side. And as long as we trust fact checkers, they would almost certainly agree with me.
Haystacks Calhoun II
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
Vox
The Atlantic
New York Times
Washington Post
The Guardian
Slate
NPR
These are the most unbiased news sources I've found in the US. They are all examples of quality, thoughtful investigative journalism.
Just about everything else is too polarized to either side. And as long as we trust fact checkers, they would almost certainly agree with me.
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You just listed 7 of the most liberal leaning sources, if you can use the word sources, in the US.
Nice try. We no longer have unbiased media, just organizations putting their spin on what is happening. Works for both sides.
Vox
The Atlantic
New York Times
Washington Post
The Guardian
Slate
NPR
These are the most unbiased news sources I've found in the US. They are all examples of quality, thoughtful investigative journalism.
Just about everything else is too polarized to either side. And as long as we trust fact checkers, they would almost certainly agree with me.
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You just listed 7 of the most liberal leaning sources, if you can use the word sources, in the US.
Nice try. We no longer have unbiased media, just organizations putting their spin on what is happening. Works for both sides.
mike hunt
[QUOTE] [b]Haystacks Calhoun II wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
Vox
The Atlantic
New York Times
Washington Post
The Guardian
Slate
NPR
These are the most unbiased news sources I've found in the US. They are all examples of quality, thoughtful investigative journalism.
Just about everything else is too polarized to either side. And as long as we trust fact checkers, they would almost certainly agree with me.
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You just listed 7 of the most liberal leaning sources, if you can use the word sources, in the US.
Nice try. We no longer have unbiased media, just organizations putting their spin on what is happening. Works for both sides. [/QUOTE]
Thank you! I was gonna say the same thing. The left is equally, if not more biased.
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
Vox
The Atlantic
New York Times
Washington Post
The Guardian
Slate
NPR
These are the most unbiased news sources I've found in the US. They are all examples of quality, thoughtful investigative journalism.
Just about everything else is too polarized to either side. And as long as we trust fact checkers, they would almost certainly agree with me.
[/QUOTE]
You just listed 7 of the most liberal leaning sources, if you can use the word sources, in the US.
Nice try. We no longer have unbiased media, just organizations putting their spin on what is happening. Works for both sides. [/QUOTE]
Thank you! I was gonna say the same thing. The left is equally, if not more biased.
The Real Wizard
[QUOTE] [b]Haystacks Calhoun II wrote:[/b]
You just listed 7 of the most liberal leaning sources, if you can use the word sources, in the US.
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According to the rest of the world, those sources are right down the centre.
As Stephen Colbert once said - "facts have a well-known liberal bias."
Also note that the rest of the world doesn't see politics in binary. The US may have two parties, but most other countries (especially in Europe) have more than that, or even dozens, often with more than one party ruling at a time (a coalition). The rest of the world doesn't interpret "not conservative" to automatically mean "liberal". It just means it's not conservative, as there are more than two ways to think.
If anyone thinks Vox and The Atlantic are biased to the "left" in the same way that Fox and Breitbart are biased to the right, they are literally insane and unable of critical thought.
Occupy Democrats - yes. But Vox, absolutely not.
You just listed 7 of the most liberal leaning sources, if you can use the word sources, in the US.
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According to the rest of the world, those sources are right down the centre.
As Stephen Colbert once said - "facts have a well-known liberal bias."
Also note that the rest of the world doesn't see politics in binary. The US may have two parties, but most other countries (especially in Europe) have more than that, or even dozens, often with more than one party ruling at a time (a coalition). The rest of the world doesn't interpret "not conservative" to automatically mean "liberal". It just means it's not conservative, as there are more than two ways to think.
If anyone thinks Vox and The Atlantic are biased to the "left" in the same way that Fox and Breitbart are biased to the right, they are literally insane and unable of critical thought.
Occupy Democrats - yes. But Vox, absolutely not.
andres_clip
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]andres_clip wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]mike hunt wrote:[/b]
Another liberal crybaby! Are you one of those no job liberals who attack Cops and burn down cities in a so called protest? I'll tell you this, I was Independent until this election. Now I see democrats for what they truly are, crybabies and vicious animals. I see no trump supporters acting like animals. Attacking police and so on" but trump supporters are the racists? Lol[/QUOTE]
Sure, but they're upset for legitimate reasons. Republicans are far worse for not being the least bit concerned about 20 million people losing their health care, climate change being erased from the white house website, and the reality of a narcissistic sociopath having the nuclear codes.
And perhaps you missed the news about hate crimes on visible minorities by Trump supporters in the 24 hours after him being elected.
Furthermore - how do you know the person you're responding to is a "liberal"? Is that your blanket term for everyone who doesn't support the Republican party? This guy is from Europe, where most countries have at least a dozen political parties, and therefore people aren't as easily classified in binary terms. But of course you knew that and considered that before posting, because American conservatives are the world standard for intellect and thoughtfulness in dialogue.
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Oh Wizard stick to things you know like Queen for example... [/QUOTE]
Is that your official rebuke - just attacking someone instead of providing a thoughtful counter-argument?
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But you clearly state that you don't know politics, claiming people who don't side with you have a lesser IQ cmon dude
[QUOTE] [b]andres_clip wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]mike hunt wrote:[/b]
Another liberal crybaby! Are you one of those no job liberals who attack Cops and burn down cities in a so called protest? I'll tell you this, I was Independent until this election. Now I see democrats for what they truly are, crybabies and vicious animals. I see no trump supporters acting like animals. Attacking police and so on" but trump supporters are the racists? Lol[/QUOTE]
Sure, but they're upset for legitimate reasons. Republicans are far worse for not being the least bit concerned about 20 million people losing their health care, climate change being erased from the white house website, and the reality of a narcissistic sociopath having the nuclear codes.
And perhaps you missed the news about hate crimes on visible minorities by Trump supporters in the 24 hours after him being elected.
Furthermore - how do you know the person you're responding to is a "liberal"? Is that your blanket term for everyone who doesn't support the Republican party? This guy is from Europe, where most countries have at least a dozen political parties, and therefore people aren't as easily classified in binary terms. But of course you knew that and considered that before posting, because American conservatives are the world standard for intellect and thoughtfulness in dialogue.
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Oh Wizard stick to things you know like Queen for example... [/QUOTE]
Is that your official rebuke - just attacking someone instead of providing a thoughtful counter-argument?
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But you clearly state that you don't know politics, claiming people who don't side with you have a lesser IQ cmon dude
The Real Wizard
[QUOTE] [b]andres_clip wrote:[/b]
But you clearly state that you don't know politics, claiming people who don't side with you have a lesser IQ cmon dude
[/QUOTE]
Pardon you - but you started this thread with a conspiracy theory, nor do you know how to construct a proper sentence.
Leave politics to the adults, thanks.
But you clearly state that you don't know politics, claiming people who don't side with you have a lesser IQ cmon dude
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Pardon you - but you started this thread with a conspiracy theory, nor do you know how to construct a proper sentence.
Leave politics to the adults, thanks.
andres_clip
[QUOTE] [b]Thistleboy1980 wrote:[/b]
Andres, with all due respect, you said "We want to know now". Who's "we"? Are you speaking for us all?
If so, you can't then complain when people tell you they don't want to see this stuff, should it exist (I doubt it does). That's the "we" talking back at you, giving their opinions. Calling them crybabies for having an opinion is absolutely senseless.
For what it's worth, there will be a market for this (should the videos exist). But it's not for me. I'm content with what Freddie left us in terms of his music, with the final releases a valiant effort to give us one last thing. The messages, his feelings etc towards the end are there for us all to hear. The delicate, intimate thoughts and the way he dealt with mortality etc are all there, in the music - as, indeed, are his life stories in earlier music.
Do we need to see him deteriorate? No. I doubt he made such videos, as he was a private person as we all know. If there ARE videos, it's for friends and family - not the morbidly curious.
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I think there's alot of we in the world and clearly I'm not speaking for you or the other ones but for the silent majority. Did it cross your mind that the image and stuff you know about Freddie is what "they" want YOU to know and not Freddies picture of himself.
Andres, with all due respect, you said "We want to know now". Who's "we"? Are you speaking for us all?
If so, you can't then complain when people tell you they don't want to see this stuff, should it exist (I doubt it does). That's the "we" talking back at you, giving their opinions. Calling them crybabies for having an opinion is absolutely senseless.
For what it's worth, there will be a market for this (should the videos exist). But it's not for me. I'm content with what Freddie left us in terms of his music, with the final releases a valiant effort to give us one last thing. The messages, his feelings etc towards the end are there for us all to hear. The delicate, intimate thoughts and the way he dealt with mortality etc are all there, in the music - as, indeed, are his life stories in earlier music.
Do we need to see him deteriorate? No. I doubt he made such videos, as he was a private person as we all know. If there ARE videos, it's for friends and family - not the morbidly curious.
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I think there's alot of we in the world and clearly I'm not speaking for you or the other ones but for the silent majority. Did it cross your mind that the image and stuff you know about Freddie is what "they" want YOU to know and not Freddies picture of himself.
andres_clip
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]andres_clip wrote:[/b]
But you clearly state that you don't know politics, claiming people who don't side with you have a lesser IQ cmon dude
[/QUOTE]
Pardon you - but you started this thread with a conspiracy theory, nor do you know how to construct a proper sentence.
Leave politics to the adults, thanks.
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I'm just writing so you'll understand.
[QUOTE] [b]andres_clip wrote:[/b]
But you clearly state that you don't know politics, claiming people who don't side with you have a lesser IQ cmon dude
[/QUOTE]
Pardon you - but you started this thread with a conspiracy theory, nor do you know how to construct a proper sentence.
Leave politics to the adults, thanks.
[/QUOTE]
I'm just writing so you'll understand.