Demand the truth from QP about Freddies secret Aids movies
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The Real Wizard · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]andres_clip wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]mike hunt wrote:[/b]
Another liberal crybaby! Are you one of those no job liberals who attack Cops and burn down cities in a so called protest? I'll tell you this, I was Independent until this election. Now I see democrats for what they truly are, crybabies and vicious animals. I see no trump supporters acting like animals. Attacking police and so on" but trump supporters are the racists? Lol[/QUOTE]
Sure, but they're upset for legitimate reasons. Republicans are far worse for not being the least bit concerned about 20 million people losing their health care, climate change being erased from the white house website, and the reality of a narcissistic sociopath having the nuclear codes.
And perhaps you missed the news about hate crimes on visible minorities by Trump supporters in the 24 hours after him being elected.
Furthermore - how do you know the person you're responding to is a "liberal"? Is that your blanket term for everyone who doesn't support the Republican party? This guy is from Europe, where most countries have at least a dozen political parties, and therefore people aren't as easily classified in binary terms. But of course you knew that and considered that before posting, because American conservatives are the world standard for intellect and thoughtfulness in dialogue.
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Oh Wizard stick to things you know like Queen for example... [/QUOTE]
Is that your official rebuke - just attacking someone instead of providing a thoughtful counter-argument?
mike hunt · Member since
Let the guy be president for at least a year before you make A Judgement about him. That's all I'm saying. How is clinton a better choice? Trump a womanizer? And Clintons husband isn't? She's still with him for political reasons. How is that sending a good example to young women? Not saying Trumps a saint by the way, Just stating The Clintons are even worse.
mike hunt · Member since
Let the guy be president for at least a year before you make A Judgement about him. That's all I'm saying. How is clinton a better choice? Trump a womanizer? And Clintons husband isn't? She's still with him for political reasons. How is that sending a good example to young women? Not saying Trumps a saint by the way, Just stating The Clintons are even worse.
mike hunt · Member since
Let the guy be president for at least a year before you make A Judgement about him. That's all I'm saying. How is clinton a better choice? Trump a womanizer? And Clintons husband isn't? She's still with him for political reasons. How is that sending a good example to young women? Not saying Trumps a saint by the way, Just stating The Clintons are even worse.
mike hunt · Member since
Let the guy be president for at least a year before you make A Judgement about him. That's all I'm saying. How is clinton a better choice? Trump a womanizer? And Clintons husband isn't? She's still with him for political reasons. How is that sending a good example to young women? Not saying Trumps a saint by the way, Just stating The Clintons are even worse.
mike hunt · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]mike hunt wrote:[/b]
Another liberal crybaby! Are you one of those no job liberals who attack Cops and burn down cities in a so called protest? I'll tell you this, I was Independent until this election. Now I see democrats for what they truly are, crybabies and vicious animals. I see no trump supporters acting like animals. Attacking police and so on" but trump supporters are the racists? Lol[/QUOTE]
Sure, but they're upset for legitimate reasons. Republicans are far worse for not being the least bit concerned about 20 million people losing their health care, climate change being erased from the white house website, and the reality of a narcissistic sociopath having the nuclear codes.
And perhaps you missed the news about hate crimes on visible minorities by Trump supporters in the 24 hours after him being elected.
Furthermore - how do you know the person you're responding to is a "liberal"? Is that your blanket term for everyone who doesn't support the Republican party? This guy is from Europe, where most countries have at least a dozen political parties, and therefore people aren't as easily classified in binary terms. But of course you knew that and considered that before posting, because American conservatives are the world standard for intellect and thoughtfulness in dialogue.
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With all due respect, You are in denial my friend! I did say was Independent, so let's not try and twist this around. Trump haters are burning Cars, attacking cops and even had 3 Black people abusing a disabled person Just because he was white, burning the poor guy, screaming We hate trump! Or did you miss all that? Stick to music my man!
Oscar J · Member since
Your deductive reasoning (or rather lack thereof) and your resorting to ad hominems, straw-men and anecdotal evidence certainly don't do you any favours. Just a tip.
Thistle · Member since
Andres, with all due respect, you said "We want to know now". Who's "we"? Are you speaking for us all?
If so, you can't then complain when people tell you they don't want to see this stuff, should it exist (I doubt it does). That's the "we" talking back at you, giving their opinions. Calling them crybabies for having an opinion is absolutely senseless.
For what it's worth, there will be a market for this (should the videos exist). But it's not for me. I'm content with what Freddie left us in terms of his music, with the final releases a valiant effort to give us one last thing. The messages, his feelings etc towards the end are there for us all to hear. The delicate, intimate thoughts and the way he dealt with mortality etc are all there, in the music - as, indeed, are his life stories in earlier music.
Do we need to see him deteriorate? No. I doubt he made such videos, as he was a private person as we all know. If there ARE videos, it's for friends and family - not the morbidly curious.
mike hunt · Member since
We.did see him Deteriorate just by watching his last videos from 89 to 91. No need to see these so called movies. Freddie will always have my repect for the way he handled those last couple of years. Plenty of people would of went in hiding or commit suicide. Instead he continued making music until he physically couldn't. Nice seeing that from a so called diva. All respect for anyone, famous or not who never gave up regardless of their situation.
mike hunt · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]andres_clip wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]mike hunt wrote:[/b]
Another liberal crybaby! Are you one of those no job liberals who attack Cops and burn down cities in a so called protest? I'll tell you this, I was Independent until this election. Now I see democrats for what they truly are, crybabies and vicious animals. I see no trump supporters acting like animals. Attacking police and so on" but trump supporters are the racists? Lol[/QUOTE]
Sure, but they're upset for legitimate reasons. Republicans are far worse for not being the least bit concerned about 20 million people losing their health care, climate change being erased from the white house website, and the reality of a narcissistic sociopath having the nuclear codes.
And perhaps you missed the news about hate crimes on visible minorities by Trump supporters in the 24 hours after him being elected.
Furthermore - how do you know the person you're responding to is a "liberal"? Is that your blanket term for everyone who doesn't support the Republican party? This guy is from Europe, where most countries have at least a dozen political parties, and therefore people aren't as easily classified in binary terms. But of course you knew that and considered that before posting, because American conservatives are the world standard for intellect and thoughtfulness in dialogue.
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Oh Wizard stick to things you know like Queen for example... [/QUOTE]
Is that your official rebuke - just attacking someone instead of providing a thoughtful counter-argument?
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Just pointing out the hypocrites marching and protesting against Trump, women that is, but they're ok with The Clintons. Does that even make sense? wizard, it's ok not too like Trump but don't be a hypocrite. You're suppose to be so much smarter than the Trump supporters. I noticed you havn't wrote since I'm making some valid points. End of dicussion! No more politics.
The Real Wizard · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]mike hunt wrote:[/b]
Just pointing out the hypocrites marching and protesting against Trump, women that is, but they're ok with The Clintons. Does that even make sense?[/QUOTE]
Not really. Mentioning the Clintons (for any reason other than being involved in a discussion about the Clintons) is called a straw man argument. You're misrepresenting someone's position by bringing up something completely unrelated, which demonstrates to people who understand logical fallacies that you don't have an actual argument against their position, because you're resorting to a deflection elsewhere.
And picking on the person instead of focusing on the issue is called an ad hominem argument. See above re: people's reactions to logical fallacies.
Stick to the issue and smart, thoughtful people will listen to you. If you deflect, they won't, and your audience will reduced to only people who resort to similar tactics. It's pretty simple.
AlbaNo1 · Member since
What's the issue?
The Real Wizard · Member since
When a certain poster labelled someone who didn't agree with him as a "liberal crybaby" and tried to deflect to an unrelated issue when he was called on it.
mike hunt · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]AlbaNo1 wrote:[/b]
What's the issue?[/QUOTE]
Good fucking Question! My original complaint was stated by a liberal crybaby who has the nerve to put down our new president. He doesn't even live in America. Obama was the worst and Bush was horrible. Trump is already creating Jobs by the way. Gave the military their biggest raise in ages. He'll be great for the economy in my opinion. And these liberal rioters might facing Jail time. Obama would have applauded these losers. Wizard, it figures you would be down with these celebrities like Madonna, who say's shes 'gonna burn down the White House! Even Brian May with his anti Trump rants, But Mr May didn't a have Problem with Clintion when he was screwing any girl with a pulse. I hate hypocrites! Or being unfaithful to his wife May was, but has the nerve to say shit about Trump.
Oscar J · Member since
"Good fucking Question!"
The F bomb, good start.
"My original complaint was stated by a liberal"
You don't know he's a liberal, as previously stated.
"crybaby"
He has not come across as being a crybaby before. Maybe you're just attacking his person because he disagrees with you and you don't have any good counter arguments.
"who has the nerve to put down our new president. He doesn't even live in America."
Trump is a problem that concerns us all. The vast majority of people outside of America realise that he's a terrible and potentially very dangerous choice for president. And we're entitled to that opinion.
"Obama was the worst"
He certainly wasn't. Proof please.
"Trump is already creating Jobs by the way. "
Maybe he can create a few jobs, but at what cost? Employing a few thousand americans in a coal power plant spewing out as much CO2 as 10 million people.
"Gave the military their biggest raise in ages."
Great, just what the world needed.
"He'll be great for the economy in my opinion. "
That's not an argument, you don't have any proof for that.
"And these liberal rioters might facing Jail time."
And you certainly wouldn't mind. No wonder you support Trump. Narrow-mindedness and intolerance.
"Obama would have applauded these losers."
Straw man.
"Wizard, it figures you would be down with these celebrities like Madonna, who say's shes 'gonna burn down the White House!"
Straw man.
"Even Brian May with his anti Trump rants, But Mr May didn't a have Problem with Clintion when he was screwing any girl with a pulse."
Straw man.
"I hate hypocrites!"
You're just rambling now. But yes, hate is probably one of the big reasons for people voting for Trump. That usually ends well, history tells us.
"Or being unfaithful to his wife May was, but has the nerve to say shit about Trump."
He never groped random women, he didn't systematically insult them or belittle them. May is vastly more intelligent than Trump and like most clever people sees him for the person he is: a sexist, racist demagogue.