mike hunt
Always be worried when you have a new president, but in my opinion his healthcare will be better and more affordable than obamacare. Mark my words on that one.
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The Real Wizard
[QUOTE] [b]AlbaNo1 wrote:[/b]
The average voter has an average IQ.[/QUOTE]
Yep, which is why this is going to happen:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2017/01/23/repealing-the-affordable-care-act-will-kill-more-than-43000-people-annually
But fear not - according to our Republican friends, this is just "left wing media", and these people are all rich and will be able to afford their cancer medication. Everyone has an extra 2 grand a month lying around, don't they?
The average voter has an average IQ.[/QUOTE]
Yep, which is why this is going to happen:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2017/01/23/repealing-the-affordable-care-act-will-kill-more-than-43000-people-annually
But fear not - according to our Republican friends, this is just "left wing media", and these people are all rich and will be able to afford their cancer medication. Everyone has an extra 2 grand a month lying around, don't they?
The Real Wizard
[QUOTE] [b]mike hunt wrote:[/b]
I gave sources from where political people disagree with you, the same as you giving me liberal sources. Everyone of these sources has an agenda. The Right and left, so we basically have too go by what we feel[/QUOTE]
And that's EXACTLY the problem - you go by feelings, not by facts. You have just nailed exactly why Trump is successful - because feelings have replaced facts in America.
[QUOTE]I'm a working class guy who talks with my peers, most agree the liberals are out of control.[/QUOTE]
No - you are not working class if you have a job with health care. It means you are in about the top 20-30% of the country, considering only 75% of people with a full time job get health insurance from work (about half the country is service industry, i.e. mostly part time jobs):
http://kff.org/private-insurance/issue-brief/trends-in-employer-sponsored-insurance-offer-and-coverage-rates-1999-2014
Or is this a biased "liberal" source with all those "facts" ?
I gave sources from where political people disagree with you, the same as you giving me liberal sources. Everyone of these sources has an agenda. The Right and left, so we basically have too go by what we feel[/QUOTE]
And that's EXACTLY the problem - you go by feelings, not by facts. You have just nailed exactly why Trump is successful - because feelings have replaced facts in America.
[QUOTE]I'm a working class guy who talks with my peers, most agree the liberals are out of control.[/QUOTE]
No - you are not working class if you have a job with health care. It means you are in about the top 20-30% of the country, considering only 75% of people with a full time job get health insurance from work (about half the country is service industry, i.e. mostly part time jobs):
http://kff.org/private-insurance/issue-brief/trends-in-employer-sponsored-insurance-offer-and-coverage-rates-1999-2014
Or is this a biased "liberal" source with all those "facts" ?
The Real Wizard
[QUOTE] [b]Haystacks Calhoun II wrote:[/b]
The Atlantic, a 150 plus year old institution, is moderate at best.
You lose all credibility in stating that Vox isn't a left leaning "publication".
Then, you double down by saying if you disagree, you are insane.
That exchange above pretty well calls you out, my friend. [/QUOTE]
Vox is very slightly left of centre. The argument was that Vox is as skewed to the left as Fox is skewed to the right.
To equate those two things is to be nothing short of insane.
Of course, the person in question didn't mention Vox by name - the only "left wing" source he even knows of is CNN, which, compared to Fox is "more" left wing, but by any other civilized country's designation it would be classified as centre.
The Atlantic, a 150 plus year old institution, is moderate at best.
You lose all credibility in stating that Vox isn't a left leaning "publication".
Then, you double down by saying if you disagree, you are insane.
That exchange above pretty well calls you out, my friend. [/QUOTE]
Vox is very slightly left of centre. The argument was that Vox is as skewed to the left as Fox is skewed to the right.
To equate those two things is to be nothing short of insane.
Of course, the person in question didn't mention Vox by name - the only "left wing" source he even knows of is CNN, which, compared to Fox is "more" left wing, but by any other civilized country's designation it would be classified as centre.
The Real Wizard
[QUOTE] [b]Haystacks Calhoun II wrote:[/b]
That said, those who behave online the way that they do is a large reason that Donald Trump is in office today.
Had they went after Hillary Clinton, the single worst Presidential candidate to ever run for office, with one tenth of the vigor that they harbor for Trump supporters, we would have President Bernie Sanders.[/QUOTE]
Trump's detractors DID vote for Bernie in the primaries - 60% of them. It's the corrupt Democrats and their superdelegate system that screwed him. They could have even made him the running mate. They're the ones who blew it.
But you're certainly right - 80% of millenials didn't vote. They could've stopped Trump, even though they hated Hillary. Their pride is partly to blame as well.
That said, those who behave online the way that they do is a large reason that Donald Trump is in office today.
Had they went after Hillary Clinton, the single worst Presidential candidate to ever run for office, with one tenth of the vigor that they harbor for Trump supporters, we would have President Bernie Sanders.[/QUOTE]
Trump's detractors DID vote for Bernie in the primaries - 60% of them. It's the corrupt Democrats and their superdelegate system that screwed him. They could have even made him the running mate. They're the ones who blew it.
But you're certainly right - 80% of millenials didn't vote. They could've stopped Trump, even though they hated Hillary. Their pride is partly to blame as well.
The Real Wizard
[QUOTE] [b]mike hunt wrote:[/b]
They're In office for 4 days, how can we know if he's gonna do good![/QUOTE]
In four days:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-abortion-men_us_5886369be4b0e3a7356a7910
https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2017/01/24/trump-administration-orders-epa-freeze-on-media-new-business-activities.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2017/01/23/repealing-the-affordable-care-act-will-kill-more-than-43000-people-annually
https://www.theodysseyonline.com/president-trump-crushed-career-plan
http://jezebel.com/republicans-introduce-bill-proposing-withdrawal-from-un-1791494159
I think from the first four days we have a pretty good idea of where things are headed.
They're In office for 4 days, how can we know if he's gonna do good![/QUOTE]
In four days:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-abortion-men_us_5886369be4b0e3a7356a7910
https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2017/01/24/trump-administration-orders-epa-freeze-on-media-new-business-activities.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2017/01/23/repealing-the-affordable-care-act-will-kill-more-than-43000-people-annually
https://www.theodysseyonline.com/president-trump-crushed-career-plan
http://jezebel.com/republicans-introduce-bill-proposing-withdrawal-from-un-1791494159
I think from the first four days we have a pretty good idea of where things are headed.
The Real Wizard
[QUOTE] [b]mike hunt wrote:[/b]
But most of these stories are being told by the Democrats.[/QUOTE]
So you'll discredit them until you hear it in right wing media?
[QUOTE]I havn't heard Trump being against Pro choice though.[/QUOTE]
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-abortion-men_us_5886369be4b0e3a7356a7910
Now you have. But of course you hadn't heard about this - Fox and the New York Post aren't going to report that a Trump executive order is going to result in countless women dying.
But most of these stories are being told by the Democrats.[/QUOTE]
So you'll discredit them until you hear it in right wing media?
[QUOTE]I havn't heard Trump being against Pro choice though.[/QUOTE]
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-abortion-men_us_5886369be4b0e3a7356a7910
Now you have. But of course you hadn't heard about this - Fox and the New York Post aren't going to report that a Trump executive order is going to result in countless women dying.
The Real Wizard
[QUOTE] [b]mike hunt wrote:[/b]
Always be worried when you have a new president, but in my opinion his healthcare will be better and more affordable than obamacare. Mark my words on that one.[/QUOTE]
How can you possibly know that? He hasn't put forth a plan !
Furthermore, your opinion on the matter is not only irrelevant, but based on literally nothing, as Trump has said - "I have plans, the best plans." No actual plan.
This blind support of yours is exactly what is wrong with your country.
"He's not a Democrat, so he's better by default until proven otherwise" is basically what you're saying.
And you call yourself an independent?
You are part and parcel a Republican. You blindly drink the kool aid unless your livelihood is threatened. Only then will you start to think for yourself.
If you lose your job, you'll lose your health care. And you'll be wishing for Obamacare - because Trump is not going to replace it with anything.
Always be worried when you have a new president, but in my opinion his healthcare will be better and more affordable than obamacare. Mark my words on that one.[/QUOTE]
How can you possibly know that? He hasn't put forth a plan !
Furthermore, your opinion on the matter is not only irrelevant, but based on literally nothing, as Trump has said - "I have plans, the best plans." No actual plan.
This blind support of yours is exactly what is wrong with your country.
"He's not a Democrat, so he's better by default until proven otherwise" is basically what you're saying.
And you call yourself an independent?
You are part and parcel a Republican. You blindly drink the kool aid unless your livelihood is threatened. Only then will you start to think for yourself.
If you lose your job, you'll lose your health care. And you'll be wishing for Obamacare - because Trump is not going to replace it with anything.
thomasquinn 32989
[QUOTE] [b]Haystacks Calhoun II wrote:[/b]
Hillary Clinton, the single worst Presidential candidate to ever run for office,
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Gee. Ever heard of George Wallace? Pat Buchanan? William McAdoo? Or maybe Benjamin Butler? John C. Breckinridge? Or, at the top of every sensible list on this subject, AARON BURR?!!
Hillary Clinton, the single worst Presidential candidate to ever run for office,
[/QUOTE]
Gee. Ever heard of George Wallace? Pat Buchanan? William McAdoo? Or maybe Benjamin Butler? John C. Breckinridge? Or, at the top of every sensible list on this subject, AARON BURR?!!
andres_clip
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]andres_clip wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]andres_clip wrote:[/b]
But you clearly state that you don't know politics, claiming people who don't side with you have a lesser IQ cmon dude
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Pardon you - but you started this thread with a conspiracy theory, nor do you know how to construct a proper sentence.
Leave politics to the adults, thanks.
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I'm just writing so you'll understand. [/QUOTE]
And I'm just writing to tell you that you're an idiot. If you are busy touting conspiracy theories as recently as your last post, then you are not qualified to lecture people on political philosophy.
IQ is measurable. It's not a matter of opinion. When someone is drinking kool aid from biased news sources and resorting to logical fallacies during a debate, it means they're not very smart. They will not be able to pass a Mensa test if that's how poorly their brain functions.
But you clearly do not understand either concept, so I really should stop wasting my time with you.
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A true scientists/professor speaking. I hold my breath for youre wise words.
[QUOTE] [b]andres_clip wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]andres_clip wrote:[/b]
But you clearly state that you don't know politics, claiming people who don't side with you have a lesser IQ cmon dude
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Pardon you - but you started this thread with a conspiracy theory, nor do you know how to construct a proper sentence.
Leave politics to the adults, thanks.
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I'm just writing so you'll understand. [/QUOTE]
And I'm just writing to tell you that you're an idiot. If you are busy touting conspiracy theories as recently as your last post, then you are not qualified to lecture people on political philosophy.
IQ is measurable. It's not a matter of opinion. When someone is drinking kool aid from biased news sources and resorting to logical fallacies during a debate, it means they're not very smart. They will not be able to pass a Mensa test if that's how poorly their brain functions.
But you clearly do not understand either concept, so I really should stop wasting my time with you.
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A true scientists/professor speaking. I hold my breath for youre wise words.
mike hunt
God forbid I lose my Job! They been trying to cut back, budget cuts for a while. Even though we're city employee. I consider myself working class because I live check to check. I don't think Trump got in because he's so great, i think People's hatred for hillary got him in. And people were tired of the Obama regime. Also Trump isn't a politician, he's a business man. People got tired of politicians. I was straight down the middle, trust me on that! But I disliked the way they handled their loss. Rioting, recounting the votes 3 times. Liberals on the college campus screaming at trump supporters. Yea, right now I dislike the left.
The Real Wizard
[QUOTE] [b]andres_clip wrote:[/b]
A true scientists/professor speaking. I hold my breath for youre wise words. [/QUOTE]
It's "your", not "you're".
And "youre" isn't even a word.
Nor am I a "scientists". I am one person. "Scientist" should be singular, not plural.
Learn how to write a proper sentence before you talk about politics. Geez.
A true scientists/professor speaking. I hold my breath for youre wise words. [/QUOTE]
It's "your", not "you're".
And "youre" isn't even a word.
Nor am I a "scientists". I am one person. "Scientist" should be singular, not plural.
Learn how to write a proper sentence before you talk about politics. Geez.
The Real Wizard
[QUOTE] [b]mike hunt wrote:[/b]
And people were tired of the Obama regime. Also Trump isn't a politician, he's a business man. People got tired of politicians. I was straight down the middle, trust me on that! But I disliked the way they handled their loss. Rioting, recounting the votes 3 times. Liberals on the college campus screaming at trump supporters. Yea, right now I dislike the left. [/QUOTE]
What a coincidence - these are precisely all the things that right wing media is telling you to hate about the left. You sound like a paid troll employed by Fox news. Not a single independent thought - just talking points lifted from their script.
You are just so uninformed, and it's even more sad because all the clues to being an informed person are right here in this thread.
And people were tired of the Obama regime. Also Trump isn't a politician, he's a business man. People got tired of politicians. I was straight down the middle, trust me on that! But I disliked the way they handled their loss. Rioting, recounting the votes 3 times. Liberals on the college campus screaming at trump supporters. Yea, right now I dislike the left. [/QUOTE]
What a coincidence - these are precisely all the things that right wing media is telling you to hate about the left. You sound like a paid troll employed by Fox news. Not a single independent thought - just talking points lifted from their script.
You are just so uninformed, and it's even more sad because all the clues to being an informed person are right here in this thread.
andres_clip
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]andres_clip wrote:[/b]
A true scientists/professor speaking. I hold my breath for youre wise words. [/QUOTE]
It's "your", not "you're".
And "youre" isn't even a word.
Nor am I a "scientists". I am one person. "Scientist" should be singular, not plural.
Learn how to write a proper sentence before you talk about politics. Geez.
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You for real, grammar, it comes down to that. A true bully must be Democrat feminist crazy person. I bet I seen your ass on TV running around doing nothing but trouble. Shame on you, I thought listening to Queen was about joy and no racism/bullying and all that merry go round but you as a true globalist show your face. Should start listening to some other group that suit your agenda better.
[QUOTE] [b]andres_clip wrote:[/b]
A true scientists/professor speaking. I hold my breath for youre wise words. [/QUOTE]
It's "your", not "you're".
And "youre" isn't even a word.
Nor am I a "scientists". I am one person. "Scientist" should be singular, not plural.
Learn how to write a proper sentence before you talk about politics. Geez.
[/QUOTE]
You for real, grammar, it comes down to that. A true bully must be Democrat feminist crazy person. I bet I seen your ass on TV running around doing nothing but trouble. Shame on you, I thought listening to Queen was about joy and no racism/bullying and all that merry go round but you as a true globalist show your face. Should start listening to some other group that suit your agenda better.
AlexRocks
Oh, my god The Real Wizard is a Real Loser! Lol.