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Does he count cards? That makes no sense. Im afraid noorie brought it on herself this time.

I think you're right. They likely won't be back until the book is a done deal. Last I heard from Thor he said they'd like to keep their stories and pics close to the vest until the book comes out. Understandable but I'm curious as to what else they can tell us that they havent already. Or will it be a collection of the stories they've already posted here? I guess we'll just wait and see. Either way, I'll be buying a copy.
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I think you are assuming Noorie is bragging about six messages ... it is not hard to count to six.

Dustin Hoffman of the movie "Rainman" counts cards playing blackjack with Tom Cruise
Socialism: There's one for you, nineteen for me Should five per cent appear too small Be thankful I don't take it all
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Yes but the fact that she felt the need to give everyone the number of messages she received from Lee at all comes off as a desperate attempt at bragging. Which is likely what annoyed everyone. Myself included. Seemed childish.

I think Dustin was just saying what we all felt. In a more blunt way than i ever would lol.
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It did come off that way, squirrelly. I was going to say something as well and decided against it. I'll just say.... I too rolled my eyes.
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Just read it all. Fascinating stuff. Thank you Thor and Lee
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Personally I think Thor got a lot out of this forum. He chatted about all sorts of things, not just Freddie and took the time to get to 'know' us a bit (as much as you can online).

This thread started to feel quite cohesive. At the moment it's going the other way.

I noticed someone mentioned that Thor might consider a return to the thread if / when he's up for it. I just think we should make it worth returning to. If he doesn't, the glass is still half full, he interacted with us and he gave more than would be given for marketing purposes alone.
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It's a very long and interesting thread! Wow!!
Hey Thor, your insights are really fascinating... however I was wondering about something ...

Peter Freestone - Freddie Mercury - An Intimate Memoir by the Man Who Knew Him Best (Chapter one):

"On July 11 and 12, 1986, the band returned to Wembley with A Kind Of Magic under their belts. Freddie had flown the New York Daughters specifically to see one of these shows. He knew it was going to be something to be proud of. He hired a coach for the show which left Garden Lodge with all his guests including Straker, Mary Austin, Wayne Eagling, Gordon Atkinson, Gordon Dalziel and Graham Hamilton, Barbara Valentin and Trevor Clarke. It was my job to ensure that the coach was laden with goodies for the trip out for the guests and on the trip back
when Freddie himself joined in. This was to be the start of one very long party. I don’t think there are many stars who would indulge in this kind of behaviour. I don’t know that there are that many of his equivalent status who would have that many friends who would come together at one time to celebrate their friend’s success. And they certainly wouldn’t have travelled on a bus!"

All his close friends together!!! Wonderful!! Weren't you smitten to be sitting next to a Fassbinder Muse? You knew a lot of famous people!! You are a very lucky man!! Did you go to the party at the Roof Garden?
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I'm thinking perhaps Peter Freestone was mistaken in his account of who was there, as much as I respect his p.o.v and believe most of what he says to be accurate...
Thor and Lee closed this thread, so I'm taking it upon myself to answer. Thor and Lee both knew nothing about Barbara until they read it in a biography and Freddie didn't introduce them. She was supposedly quite a loud, larger-than-life person so I'm sure they would remember her if she was there. They've mentioned Mick Jagger though!

Further to this, she does not appear in any backstage Wembley footage, nor is she in any of the Kensington Roof Gardens party photos on Getty Images. She doesn't appear in the Summer 86 Garden Lodge footage either. Surely if she was there, she would be staying in his house and hanging out with his New York Daughters. In fact there are no photos of them together throughout the whole of 1986, as far as I know, which supports what she said about them not speaking for just over a year.
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Sponge.. Is it a possibility they were at different shows? Peter said July 11 and July 12. Its a good possibility the daughters went to one show and Barbera at the next show..
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Sponge.. Is it a possibility they were at different shows? Peter said July 11 and July 12. Its a good possibility the daughters went to one show and Barbera at the next show..
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Because the Daughters and Barbara were from different countries, it would seem weird if they just turned up on different nights then went away. They would all have been staying with Freddie and would have met. It makes more sense for Peter to be wrong. Especially if you add in the fact she doesn't appear in any photos or backstage video footage, and she said they fell out temporarily at this time.
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Maybe they slept in different places because Freddie bought the mews years later so he only had one room for the guests. Thor went to the party at the Roof Garden...Do you see him in videos or pics? No, we can't see him there...so? There were a lot of guests that day - he also invited a Japanese woman there (we have a video about that moment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNqQ-d4cdrk minute 4:33) - Do you see her in videos and pics during the party? No, we can't see her there (and if we didn't have this video we would never have known that she was there too!). So the fact that Barbara doesn't appear in any photos or backstage video footage is a proof? My answer is: absolutely not!
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Freddielove4ever why are you so desperate to believe he fucked her? The guy was a fag. I can't even show my friends this thread as a joke anymore without seeing another desperate female trying to keep their image of a straight Mercury alive. The man only wanted cock. Accept it. I have.
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How is the book coming along? Will the "Daughters" make it in time for the Christmas season?

Who was that guy who's uncle played badminton with Freddie in India, or something along those lines?