Just for your information, the term "anti-semitism" was first used by the German (and Jew-hater) reporter Wilhelm Marr.
Was it more comfortable for you to believe a Jew invented the term, or you just said that with no reason at all?
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Guitar Hero I respect you .
Oh, about all the things you said about Israel, it's quite obvious you know nothing about this subject.
GUY first of all i want you to be sure that i have nothing against the jewish PEOPLE 'cause they are victims exactly like us caught in this big act.
and this is just to clarify that Jerusalem dosen't belong to the jews.
Jesus said to the Jews: "Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. (From the KJV Bible, Matthew 21:43)"
"And God said, Sarah thy wife shall bear thee a son indeed; and thou shalt call his name Isaac: and I will establish my covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, and with his seed after him. And as for Ishmael, I have heard thee: Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly; twelve princes shall he beget, and I will make him a great nation. But my covenant will I establish with Isaac, which Sarah shall bear unto thee at this set time in the next year. (From the KJV Bible, Genesis 17:19-21)"
Ishmael happens to be the father of the muslims.
and we muslims never denied that the jews were GOD Almighty's chosen people:
"We did aforetime grant to the Children of Israel the Book the Power of Command, and Prophethood; We gave them, for Sustenance, things good and pure; and We favoured them above the nations. (The Noble Quran, 45:16)"
Jesus said to the Jews: "Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. (From the KJV Bible, Matthew 21:43)"
"And God said, Sarah thy wife shall bear thee a son indeed; and thou shalt call his name Isaac: and I will establish my covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, and with his seed after him. And as for Ishmael, I have heard thee: Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly; twelve princes shall he beget, and I will make him a great nation. But my covenant will I establish with Isaac, which Sarah shall bear unto thee at this set time in the next year. (From the KJV Bible, Genesis 17:19-21)"
Ishmael happens to be the father of the muslims.
and we muslims never denied that the jews were GOD Almighty's chosen people:
"We did aforetime grant to the Children of Israel the Book the Power of Command, and Prophethood; We gave them, for Sustenance, things good and pure; and We favoured them above the nations. (The Noble Quran, 45:16)"
I have one question for you:
Do you think I, or any Jew for this matter, will change my mind about Jerusalem just because Jesus said so? I'm Jew, not Christian.
Do you think I, or any Jew for this matter, will change my mind about Jerusalem just because Jesus said so? I'm Jew, not Christian.
" In the Catholic church, there is one book, and that is the Bible. In your local library, there are dozens of books you can read that were written by people who are exponentially more knowledgeable than priests."
Listen, you cant post here titles of countless of books which attack the Church. I on the other hand can post books that support the Church. There are many books out there by various authors, not just priests, that address various aspects of the Catholic Church.
"When you are 19, experiencing your first labour pains, and trying to raise a child on a minimum-wage salary, then I'd love to hear all you have to say about abortion."
The statement above is the most IGNORANT thing a person can say. You or anyone else by no means have the right to eliminate life! Who gave people the authority to dispose of unwanted life? One thing you are overlookimg is the fact that there is a plethora of social programs to help young mothers in need. And the Catholic Church is one of the big supporters of those programs. Young people do not want to raise a child because they are either irresponsible ( like they were when they got knocked up), or they dont want to go on social assistance because it emabarassing. If you are 19, you have the ability to make sound choices and decisions. But you are not giving the baby that option. You talk about labour pains. So what? You will kill a baby just so a woman won't go through labour? Labour pains are part of life for a woman. What if she decides to have a child in 10 years? She will still have labour pains. Give me a break dude!
"So I can be a doctor, but I'm not allowed to practice medicine? And who are you to say what is natural? So you have the right to say a gay person is not natural, but he can't tell you that you're unnatural in your belief that their sexuality isn't natural?"
Are you going to tell me that homosexuality is natural? Putting religion aside, the pasic premise of sex is to procreate and to advance the existance of the species. Having gay sex will not accomplish any of that. Gays cannot tell me that my belief is unatural, because of what I said above.
Now you tell me I am not open-minded? Form what you have been telling me, your idea of open mindedness is to accept everything that is part of our culture. What if I said I was into beastiality? According to your argument you would have to accept me because that is my sexual preference, and after all you do not want to deny me my sexuality.
A line has to be drawn somewhere. You cannot accept one group of people(gays) and not another( polygamists, those who practic inncest and beastiality). The Church is using the Law of Nature to draw that line.
Listen, you cant post here titles of countless of books which attack the Church. I on the other hand can post books that support the Church. There are many books out there by various authors, not just priests, that address various aspects of the Catholic Church.
"When you are 19, experiencing your first labour pains, and trying to raise a child on a minimum-wage salary, then I'd love to hear all you have to say about abortion."
The statement above is the most IGNORANT thing a person can say. You or anyone else by no means have the right to eliminate life! Who gave people the authority to dispose of unwanted life? One thing you are overlookimg is the fact that there is a plethora of social programs to help young mothers in need. And the Catholic Church is one of the big supporters of those programs. Young people do not want to raise a child because they are either irresponsible ( like they were when they got knocked up), or they dont want to go on social assistance because it emabarassing. If you are 19, you have the ability to make sound choices and decisions. But you are not giving the baby that option. You talk about labour pains. So what? You will kill a baby just so a woman won't go through labour? Labour pains are part of life for a woman. What if she decides to have a child in 10 years? She will still have labour pains. Give me a break dude!
"So I can be a doctor, but I'm not allowed to practice medicine? And who are you to say what is natural? So you have the right to say a gay person is not natural, but he can't tell you that you're unnatural in your belief that their sexuality isn't natural?"
Are you going to tell me that homosexuality is natural? Putting religion aside, the pasic premise of sex is to procreate and to advance the existance of the species. Having gay sex will not accomplish any of that. Gays cannot tell me that my belief is unatural, because of what I said above.
Now you tell me I am not open-minded? Form what you have been telling me, your idea of open mindedness is to accept everything that is part of our culture. What if I said I was into beastiality? According to your argument you would have to accept me because that is my sexual preference, and after all you do not want to deny me my sexuality.
A line has to be drawn somewhere. You cannot accept one group of people(gays) and not another( polygamists, those who practic inncest and beastiality). The Church is using the Law of Nature to draw that line.
if you thought that this is what i was trying to say then it was worth a shot..but no I was just refering to Jesus since we muslims won't be considerd as muslims if we didn't believe in him along with Moses and Abraham, Joseph....peace be upon them.
so then i guess i have the right to qoute him!!and it was just to clear up some thoughts and inlighten more about islam thats all..
so then i guess i have the right to qoute him!!and it was just to clear up some thoughts and inlighten more about islam thats all..
"Just for your information, the term "anti-semitism" was first used by the German (and Jew-hater) reporter Wilhelm Marr."
and thanx for correcting me GUY about the origin of the word i have to admit that i never knew!!
but i'm still sure that i'm right about why they use this word now.
and thanx for correcting me GUY about the origin of the word i have to admit that i never knew!!
but i'm still sure that i'm right about why they use this word now.
'The statement above is the most IGNORANT thing a person can say. You or anyone else by no means have the right to eliminate life! Who gave people the authority to dispose of unwanted life? One thing you are overlookimg is the fact that there is a plethora of social programs to help young mothers in need. And the Catholic Church is one of the big supporters of those programs. Young people do not want to raise a child because they are either irresponsible ( like they were when they got knocked up), or they dont want to go on social assistance because it emabarassing. If you are 19, you have the ability to make sound choices and decisions. But you are not giving the baby that option. You talk about labour pains. So what? You will kill a baby just so a woman won't go through labour? Labour pains are part of life for a woman. What if she decides to have a child in 10 years? She will still have labour pains. Give me a break dude!'
BRAVO! Excellently put.
BRAVO! Excellently put.
Matt, come to MSN if you're around :)
Well it seems that the debate dwindled down to abortion.
As a woman, I express the desire to not to have children, due to personal experiences. Still, I consider what its inside of a woman's womb is considered a life.
However, the abortion is a very touchy subject. One's idea of life inside a woman's body, can be another's idea of a gestating creature inside a woman's womb is not alive until its outside, and breathes in life for the first time.
As far as I believe, a woman can do whatever she wants with her body. It's her own body. I and no one else owns it. If she wants to abort it for whatever reason, that's her decision. That's why I cannot grip religion, and their crusades in front of abortion clinics to stop women from getting abortions. One should never drown anyone with their opinions.
I used to work in a gyn/ob clinic a few years ago, it used to make me sad and angry to my stomach that young girls, as young as 11 or 12 pregnant. Their cases were either from rape to having sex because they wanted to. Some of them aborted, some of them had the child. They learnt from their mistakes, some of them didn't. Still, I never did judge them for their mistakes or choices.
It all comes down to how you were brought up, also how you were educated. We form our opinions based on education, and experience. However, beating up someone because they think that whats inside a woman's belly isnt a life isnt respectful. People should learn to respect other people's opinions, while still voicing your own. Lets all about respect people. Lets learn how to use it.
As a woman, I express the desire to not to have children, due to personal experiences. Still, I consider what its inside of a woman's womb is considered a life.
However, the abortion is a very touchy subject. One's idea of life inside a woman's body, can be another's idea of a gestating creature inside a woman's womb is not alive until its outside, and breathes in life for the first time.
As far as I believe, a woman can do whatever she wants with her body. It's her own body. I and no one else owns it. If she wants to abort it for whatever reason, that's her decision. That's why I cannot grip religion, and their crusades in front of abortion clinics to stop women from getting abortions. One should never drown anyone with their opinions.
I used to work in a gyn/ob clinic a few years ago, it used to make me sad and angry to my stomach that young girls, as young as 11 or 12 pregnant. Their cases were either from rape to having sex because they wanted to. Some of them aborted, some of them had the child. They learnt from their mistakes, some of them didn't. Still, I never did judge them for their mistakes or choices.
It all comes down to how you were brought up, also how you were educated. We form our opinions based on education, and experience. However, beating up someone because they think that whats inside a woman's belly isnt a life isnt respectful. People should learn to respect other people's opinions, while still voicing your own. Lets all about respect people. Lets learn how to use it.
"A line has to be drawn somewhere. You cannot accept one group of people(gays) and not another( polygamists, those who practic inncest and beastiality). The Church is using the Law of Nature to draw that line."
Just thought I'd mention that both polygamy and incest both occur frequently in nature. Hardly adds to your argument, does it?
While on the subject of what is "natural", are humans not borne of Nature? We are natural beings in the sense that we evolved alongside all other species we see today. So if homosexuality is found that in such a large portion of the human population, obviously natural selection hasn't wiped it out, as might be predicted by various models of population genetics. Knowing this, I don't see how you can say it is not natural.
Just thought I'd mention that both polygamy and incest both occur frequently in nature. Hardly adds to your argument, does it?
While on the subject of what is "natural", are humans not borne of Nature? We are natural beings in the sense that we evolved alongside all other species we see today. So if homosexuality is found that in such a large portion of the human population, obviously natural selection hasn't wiped it out, as might be predicted by various models of population genetics. Knowing this, I don't see how you can say it is not natural.
Last time I checked Polygamist meant having multiple wives, and perhaps it might have something to do with incest, but I dont think beastiality enters into it.
Homosexuality is present in various animal species such as bees if im not mistaken.
Again, I'm still baffled that some think that polyamory has to do with beastiality...as if you can marry your dog, although I think it must've happened...ughh.
Again, I'm still baffled that some think that polyamory has to do with beastiality...as if you can marry your dog, although I think it must've happened...ughh.