Who Scott Mercury think the real fans are!!

I don't know that I'd agree on who the real fans are, that's pretty God like to determine who makes the cut. However, I agree with Scott's sentiments about the frustrations of dealing with unknowledgeable posters. And yes, a lot of the young posters aren't schooled enough to form a sensible debating position because they don't know the catalogue. If you grew up with Queen, you knew their ascent as an amazing hard rock band, lived it, and saw how vital they were WHEN IT WAS HAPPENING.

If you got into Queen around the Magic tour, you got into a pop-rock band who still had great songs, and were great live, but were sick of each other personally and musically. So, in my world, the latter day fans missed what Queen was all about. I hate Jimi Hendrix, but it must have been mind blowing as a young person in the 60s to see a guy changing the world with his guitar. Bohemian Rhapsody blew people away when it was on the radio in the 70s. I don't know how new fans, without having an historical context to base it upon, can comment on old stuff the way that Scott, John Stuart or myself can. We've lived it, you haven't. That's why I don't post often, so many ridiculous posts about "Khashoggi's ship is awesome!!!" from newer posters, who don't know that Queen's 80s stuff is but a patch on their earlier stuff. It's like comparing Pele and David Beckham. One's a genius, one's a good soccer player.

Well, as one of the "slew of many others", I gotta say I disagree. I'm 44 and have been a Queen fan since day one. I was just thrilled to come here some 3 years ago to find so many young Queen fans. I can't tell you how happy it makes me. I find it refreshing to go down memory lane when someone has a question about Queen long ago. Gosh, Roger and Brian have said themselves how cool it is to see teenagers at these latest shows. It speaks very well for the band. One point I do agree with is that it appears that we are more accepting of B&R doing new things, whatever they may be, because we love to seem them still rocking away. As for Paul Rodgers, I was so shocked and happy when I found out he was singing with the guys because I loved Bad Co. and Free. When we stacked records they were right on there with Queen so it was very exciting. Having this great band in my past, present and future is a wonderful gift and I'm glad that EVERYONE can share it. *steps down from soapbox*

The bottom line kids... if you are going to run with the big dogs, either know your shit, or sit back, and read awhile.

There is such a wealth of information on this website, if you just take the time to research.

I, myself, before I enter any discussion, I at first sit back, and listen to what others have said first.

I be understood by others...you must first understand others.

Some of us here have moved past... "Did you know Freddie was gay?? Was Bohemian Rhapsody about dying of Aids??" type questions.

LINDA OF THE VALLEY....People have been complaining about you on these boards for as long as I have been here, so your reputation/age speak for itself.

Then, as most 13 yr olds do... you threw a tatrum a while back...and announced "you were leaving".... now, I see we are graced with your vast 13 yrs of worldly experience again...lucky us.

I have no problem with newbies liking Queen.
I try to get new people, young and old into Queen all the time...
What I am saying is... if you know very little about the band, and their history.... and lets say you own 4 Queen albums (3 of which are greatest hits)....

Then:
A) In my opinion, there are very few topics here where your input is needed.... sit back, relax, and read awhile.
B) What the F are going to tell someone who stood out in the rain for 8 hours in 1977 about Queen??

Have some respect for those who loved this band before your daddy was getting to 3rd base with your mommy on their way to conceive you.

Well I did not get into Queen by watching Wayne's World but I did get into it by listening to 'Classic Queen' and 'Greatest Hits' the maroon colored one by the way. I'm only 18 years old so technically I was born in the magic years but i do not remember Queen being alive for I was only 5 when Freddie died. I do remember seeing the news story on television about it however. I do not have the albums, is it a money issue? No, I cannot find "The Works" or "Hot Space" anywhere to be honest. My dad did get me into Queen by having the forementioned albums and "The Game", "A Night at the Opera" and "Jazz" since than I have added all the other albums except those pesky two. As for Paul Rodgers and the whole tour, I do not hate it and i do not like it because I have not seen it because I live in Rock Hill, South Carolina and the chances of them coming anywhere near here are very slim. Now whether all of my criteria makes me a "hardcore" fan or not does not bother me because I like the music. And as for new fans, it's very inconsiderate to rag on them because they're new. They may not be Queen genius's but we all share one thing in common, we like the music. That's all that matters.

Scott_Mercury wrote:

The bottom line kids... if you are going to run with the big dogs, either know your shit, or sit back, and read awhile.

That's kinda arrogant, isn't it? You don't own the noticeboard. This is precisely why there is a "general" section and a "serious" one. So what criteria should be set for someone to post on the board? Do they need to be at least 40, have seen Queen (with Freddie, of course) 5 or more times, own a blue BoRhap..(purchased in '75, of course)? Please specify the rules because I may not be eligible to be on here..:-I

Agreed...

You need not own every album, know all history, or have went to 10 concerts to be a fan.

Let me give you an idea of what I mean.
I am a huge Queen fan... I have been featured on the second page (twice) of my local newspaper for my Queen collection.

However, I wasn't the Houston 1977 show (which is a smoking show by the way).....

So when I meets or talk to someone that was at that show, I just shut up and let them educate me on their day. I have nothing to tell them.... they were there...I wasn't.....

All I can do is learn from them what they experienced.

One of first things I ever read on this website was a guy, who was at Live Aid in 1985... he typed a huge paragraph on his day there.

The older, more mature, Queenzoners, where like "thanks for sharing"...."you are so lucky"...

Then... out of the blue .... like a bolt of teenage stupidity....the comment I'll never forget:

"I've seen that footage, Freddie was pretty good that day, I'll bet he got some dick and lots of cum the night before, thats why he was in such a good mood"

This comment was brought to us by someone who still posts here regularly (I'll spare them the advertisement) .... and this genius is the ripe old age of 14.

Now, if say, Eric Clapton put on a good show somewhere... would anyone say "Had to be the hot 25 yr old pussy he's bangin".... nope.

But leave it to the tweens, teens, and peach fuzz public hair farmers on here to sumize that a great Freddie performance had to be the result of "getting dick".

The mature fans on here seem to realize that gay + Aids made up a very small factor in the awesome band of Queen.

The 10 year olds seem to dwell on these things.

Unfortunately, I was not there to see Queen in their heyday. I wasn't alive to see the debut of Jazz or anything. But I AM a fan, Scott. I'm younger than most "real fans" - but I've built up a pretty good collection (see my site), I've learned the words to every song, I've been caught by many doing impersonations of Freddie while jamming to a CD, I've stood in the blazing heat for two hours just to WAVE at Brian May (and he waved back :-D). What more do you want?

I once had only four CDs. I used to be ignorant of numerous Queen facts that are now common knowledge. I was once a newbie and I came to this site to find other Queen fans to talk to. But at that time, everyone welcomed everyone with open arms. The only time anyone ever had a row was when some dumbass made comments like "Queen sucks!" I really miss that. What's sad to me is that those people I first met, I have also lost touch with. Now all I have are a bunch of whiny little assholes who bitch because someone told them to google a search or go ranting about how HORRIBLE Paul Rodgers is or people who try to lay down the line and say "only REAL fans should post here. And it is up to me to decide what constitutes as such."

I must say, I miss the old days. Anyone else agree?

Do they need to be at least 40, have seen Queen (with Freddie, of course) 5 or more times, own a blue BoRhap..(purchased in '75, of course)? Please specify the rules because I may not be eligible to be on here..:-I

Erin darling, I´m so sorry for you... but I think you´re out! :-)) Me too by the way... :-(

The problem is not about teenagers.

There are MANY teenagers who make good contibutions to Queenzone.

The problem is continuous drivel - and SOME teenagers are the biggest culprits.

Old git = 26 yrs old (my age)

Ok, so at 19, I must have had my mid-life crisis.

I don't care if you are 12, 22, 42, 92... please post with care... we are all on Queenzone... we are suppose to be the cream of the crop when it comes to Queen-ism.

If I read 1 more thread where Bryans Permed Poodle bashes Rodgers, where Sharon G "misses Freddie...you and only you, RIP 1991"....

Or where various teenage girls bring to our attention that Roger was cute in the 70's... or this latest one, get this... I guess Freddie was gay??

I may have to pull a Linda of the Valley, and use my 7th grade resources, pretend like I am leaving, and in a climatic Hollywood ending...get everyone to ask me to please stay!

bohemian777 wrote:

Do they need to be at least 40, have seen Queen (with Freddie, of course) 5 or more times, own a blue BoRhap..(purchased in '75, of course)? Please specify the rules because I may not be eligible to be on here..:-I

Erin darling, I´m so sorry for you... but I think your out! :-)) Me too by the way...

Well..we better be hitting the road then..;-)
I'll go pack my things...

Scott_Mercury wrote:

Then... out of the blue .... like a bolt of teenage stupidity....the comment I'll never forget:

"I've seen that footage, Freddie was pretty good that day, I'll bet he got some dick and lots of cum the night before, thats why he was in such a good mood"

This comment was brought to us by someone who still posts here regularly (I'll spare them the advertisement) .... and this genius is the ripe old age of 14.

But leave it to the tweens, teens, and peach fuzz public hair farmers on here to sumize that a great Freddie performance had to be the result of "getting dick".

The mature fans on here seem to realize that gay + Aids made up a very small factor in the awesome band of Queen.

The 10 year olds seem to dwell on these things.

Scott has been dwelling on the "gay + Aids" topics lately more than anyone.

EvilTwin wrote:

We all have choices on these boards, no matter what our ages or beliefs about Queen.

There is a method to the madness. It's called if you don't like a poster or thier age skip the thread or post and move on.

You could always start your own thread and call it..

Adult/Mature True Queen Fans Only Please, but then what would you have to bitch about?

BTW...Did Brenski, Thomas Quinn, Arlene, and "a whole slew of others" Delegate you as thier spokesperson? They seem to have no problem hanging out with us little whipper snappers. It seems to me that a young fellow on these boards just took a thorough cyber beating for trying to "represent"

Without young new fans, Queen would die.

Thank you! While I DO appreciate what you said Scott, I would like to speak for myself.

While I DO get frustrated with the newbies at times...YES...without US the older fans...TEACHING them and being patient with them and ENCOURAGING them about the wonders of Queen & Queen's music and legacy...

...Yes...Queen would die so to speak.

The GREAT thing (and one of the few things about being an OLD!!!! lady me, who has loved Queen for three quarters of my life span as I am 44 and have Loved Queen since Iwas about 13 or 14, is that...

..yes...I do NOT want young people to think that the world and it's music and art began in 2005 or the last decade.

I WANT young people to KNOW about and APPRECIATE and LOVE Queen (and other great music artists of the past who are STILL making music, or who have stopped making music.)

One of the things I LOVE about the musicians of MY generation, such as Queen, Clapton, The Stones, The Beatles, Hendrix, was that THEY grew up wanting to LEARN about, APPRECIATE, and LOVE artists BEFORE THEM...such as Robert Johnson, classical artists, blues artists, skiffle artists, etc...and they then were INFLUENCED by these artists and had a better understanding and appreciation for ALL periods of music and music artists from those periods, past and present.

Clapton STILL cherishes the great black bluesmen from a CENTURY ago, most who are long deceased...but he ENJOYS passing that torch on to today's kids and today's NEW musicians, like young blues artists such as Kenny Wayne Shepherd, Jonny Lang, Joe Bonnamassa.

The late GREAT Stevie Ray Vaughan, was playing guitar at 11 years old...with HIS mentors, Albert Collins, Albert King and Buddy Guy, who were already in their 60's and 70's. Yes, those older bluesmen I'm sure were FRUSTRATED at this 11 year old white upstart from Dallas, Texas bugging & pestering them to hang around them, continually asking what may have sometimes come off as "stupid" questions...but they were HAPPIER to have a young white kid...WANT to learn all about, appreciate, and PLAY the blues, keeping that music ALIVE and passing it on to a whole new YOUNG generation of fans.

For me, being one of the OLD ladies on QZ who has loved Queen for over 30 years of my life....is a PRIVILEGE, not a right.

And it IS my privilege, to enjoy seeing, SURPRISINGLY, such an enormous wealth of young people...10,11 12, 13, 14 years old and such..who do NOT want to burn their brains and ears listening to Rap, Britney, & boy bands....

...but who are discovering one of the most talented, influential, landmark bands of rock music, of music in general, etc.

It's a JOY..to know of this wonderful phenomenon, and to help to ENCOURAGE and TEACH these young people.

Sure...sometimes their questions "seem" stupid, to us OLD folK, (but how soon we forget that we were 12 years old and asked the same "stupid" questions,) well for me 30 years ago..about people like Robert Johnson.

Being one of the older, 3 decade long fans of Queen on Qz is a bit like being a role model and teacher to these young people.

......If I think some questions TRULY are absurd, or meant to be inflammatory, I ski

I became in a fan in 2002. Does that therefore mean I'm not a real fan Scott? It would be hard for me to be a fan before Innuendo as I was about 3 when Freddie died.

I am 44 years old and have been a Queen fan since 1975, and I agree with Robin. I am thrilled that the young people of today are interested in listening to Queen, and alot of the young folk here contribute wonderful things, and could tell me a thing or two. I don't believe there is such a thing as a "good" or "bad" fan. We are all here for the same reason. We enjoy the music of Queen.