Who Scott Mercury think the real fans are!!

Janet wrote:

I am 44 years old and have been a Queen fan since 1975, and I agree with Robin. I am thrilled that the young people of today are interested in listening to Queen, and alot of the young folk here contribute wonderful things, and could tell me a thing or two. I don't believe there is such a thing as a "good" or "bad" fan. We are all here for the same reason. We enjoy the music of Queen.

Nicely said!

Vad wrote:

Congratulations DarkQueen, you have explained Scott's point even better than he did.

A shame :(

Yeah, fuck you too asshole. :)

Fairy wrote:

This is the most arrogant post I've ever seen on this forum and probably anywhere else too.
I'm 34 years old. Liked Queen since childhood, but became a real fan (oops Scott thinks I'm not) after Freddie died, because well, for my personal reasons.
Probably he's right though...He is the fan, which we all know stands for FANATIC. I don't feel the need to own all there is about Queen, nor to know every little detail about them, nor to boast the things I do know about them, because...I just love Freddie and Queen. Yes, I'm not a fanatic...

This post is much much worse than any posts by people like BPP whom so many on here dislike. And much more childish than the posts by the newbies you are so fed up with. If this forum isn't always a nice place to be, it isn't really because of the newbies...it is mostly because of the people like you who attack them, and who waste time talking about them instead of simply letting their silly posts slip out of sight.

Fairy

I agree Fairy. And if you read my post on page 2, PLEASE DO...I think that Scott stepped WAY over the line here in arrogance, intolerance, and has accepted the crown of "holier than thou".

As fruitside said I am 44, a Queen fan for over 30 years, and I STILL learn new things on here and from other press, books, sources, everyday.

I once heard, I can NOT remember who, some great British actor like Olivier or to that affect, who was already like 70 some years old. But he said...ANYONE who thinks thay have learned EVERYTHING...really...has learned NOTHING.

Everyone, at every age, should be open and accepting to new information, ideas, facts, opinions, thoughts. If you are so arrogant to think you know it all...you actually have ALOT to learn, including in humility and grace.

BUT GUYS PLEASE READ MY POST. I'm 18 years older than Scott, and I do NOT feel as he does in any way shape or form.

Your humble teacher...and pupil...Arlene (Padawan) :)

I agree completely, Arlene.
I feel that the music of Queen is...well, it's kinda losing its following in today's youth.
As far as most of them know, Queen's music is WWRY, WATC, BoRhap, AOBTD, and if you're lucky, Killer Queen and Bicycle Race.
And not much else.
It doesn't help that the classic rock station here in Toronto, Q107, tends to play exclusively those tunes, and maybe Fat Bottomed Girls as well.
Where's the Hammer To Fall?
The Tie Your Mother Down?
The Keep Yourself Alive?!

I'm halfway tempted to stick a page on my website entitled "Queen Tune Of The Day."

While Scott may be wrong in his method of deciding fans, his points are valid regarding the knowledge or certain new (or old) posters, who know squat, but get into heated debates that they know nothing about, then get personal if you don't buy their point of view.

I know more about Queen than 95% of the posters here. BFD, because I know about a tenth of what John Stuart does, or fans of his ilk. The difference is, I know enough to discuss things with John if I disagree or have a question. It pisses me off when the "bad lyrics" debate occurs, and I see the "some kind of cheese" line in Sweet Lady tossed out as cringe worthy. If you don't understand that A) the song is a conversation between a man and woman B) the line is written totally tongue in cheek, C) the line is sung 100 times more tongue in cheek than it's written, and D) he's not saying that cheese is literally sweet, you don't understand music, humour or anything relating to the two. I'm glad new folks are getting into Queen. But if you weren't alive during the 70s, you can't understand their significance in an historical perspective in how diverse their music was THEN. And if you like the 80s Queen as much as the 70s Queen, that's great, but then you have no understanding of what makes music, and what makes Queen great. 70s Queen = art. 80s Queen = commerce that was well performed.

Yeah,
That is more or less what I am saying.
If you want to ask questions ...fine.

But don't get into heated debates if you have been a Queen fan for 4 days.

I don't hate teenagers...I was one 8 years ago.
I hate stupid, un-researched answers to questions.

I just tend to like more of what the veteran fans discuss... I like to go deeper with Queen discussions then the same old stuff.

Such as:
When did Freddie die?
How tall is Roger?
Where is John Deacon?

These are questions that the typical passing by observer may ask, if they see Freddie on tv.. "wow, I forgot he died... when was that 1991 or 1992??"

That sounds like something my mom would ask.

I guess I am asking for the quality of intelligence to be higher in "Queenzone".

I realize , not everyone here will be a John Stuart or Rick Sky.... if you come here to learn more about this great band... welcome aboard... whether you are 12 or 82.

But you don't learn by talking.
I didn't mean to come down just on those born in the last 15 years.

Everyone's favorite "Sharon G" has stated that Freddie is one person, "whose ass she would lick"... well, thats nice. But shit like that can be kept to yourself.

She is like 33.
But still = a way stupid comment.

:)

BHM 0271 wrote:

But if you weren't alive during the 70s, you can't understand their significance in an historical perspective in how diverse their music was THEN.

Bollocks.

That's like saying that we can only truly understand the period we lived in, thus negating the need to study history at all.

I'll concede that those not alive in the 70s might need to put more effort into understanding Queen's significance during the decade, but it's far from a lost cause.

I find it interesting that someone as young as a 26 year old is chastizing younger fans because they weren't there in the beginning.
At 26 years of age you were not there in the beginning.
I'll be damned if I accept anyone else's exclusionary definition of what makes a Queen fan.
If you enjoy the music of Queen then I believe you are a Queen fan regardless of what any other person thinks.
Seems the bigger issue here is treating other posters with respect. Since this is an anonymous message board there are going to be attetion seeking and inflammatory posts.

Relax, listen to some music and have a good weekend.

Scott_Mercury wrote:

Yeah,
That is more or less what I am saying.
If you want to ask questions ...fine.

But don't get into heated debates if you have been a Queen fan for 4 days.

I don't hate teenagers...I was one 8 years ago.
I hate stupid, un-researched answers to questions.

I just tend to like more of what the veteran fans discuss... I like to go deeper with Queen discussions then the same old stuff.

Such as:
When did Freddie die?
How tall is Roger?
Where is John Deacon?

These are questions that the typical passing by observer may ask, if they see Freddie on tv.. "wow, I forgot he died... when was that 1991 or 1992??"

That sounds like something my mom would ask.

I guess I am asking for the quality of intelligence to be higher in "Queenzone".

I realize , not everyone here will be a John Stuart or Rick Sky.... if you come here to learn more about this great band... welcome aboard... whether you are 12 or 82.

But you don't learn by talking.
I didn't mean to come down just on those born in the last 15 years.

Everyone's favorite "Sharon G" has stated that Freddie is one person, "whose ass she would lick"... well, thats nice. But shit like that can be kept to yourself.

She is like 33.
But still = a way stupid comment.

:)

OK, so I did misunderstand your message, Scott.
<freddiequote>
My apologies, but I'll say what I want.
Y'know what I mean?
</freddiequote>

If I had my way, stupid people would be shot on sight.
And since all of us here on the boards have mastered computers, I think that none of us are stupid.
However, we have stupid episodes.
When you do, just bounce around the house till 2 in the morning. And not post here.
Thanks.

LOL Scott. So you want a higher level of intelligence on these forums? And you think this post is an intelligent one? Who Scott thinks is a true fan...LOL...Who are you? You're nobody, just like me or anyone else on here.

I grew up with Queen music...you did not! But I don't think this is anything to boast. It is not a merit...it just happened. And if I was 65 and only yesterday started liking Queen, that wouldn't be something to be ashamed of. And since I'm older than you, 34, I can teach you some things about life. When you don't like a post, the topic or the poster who posts it, you can simply scroll down to the next post and enjoy those. If a good post becomes annoying, you can just consider it done with and move to the next, or create new ones yourself - which will certainly be intelligent...

There are certainly many posts I don't like. I simply go further, because I tell myself that well, if others are replying to them then it means there are people who like them...Who am I to decide if they're good or bad posts?

But the worst aspect of this thread is that we are required to PROVE that we're fans. Look we get judged all or lives: in school, in the ofice, when we perform, sing, dance, when we go on a date....! I'm not going to let anyone judge me for something that I do from the heart, i.e. liking Queen and loving Freddie.

BTW: if you never had a spiritual encounter with Freddie, as I did, then you're not a true fan because Freddie didn't come to you!! How do you like that?? LOL

Relax and come back to Earth.

Fairy

Arlene, I now read your post on page 2, thanks for telling me...There are so many posts on this thread I didn't see it.
I agree with you.
Maybe we should create a separate forum for newbies! As absurd as it sounds, someone had suggested it a while back. I certainly am not a newbie, but I don't know which forum I would join if it happened...Sometimes being with silly newbies is better than being with knowledgeable oldies who will look down on you and scorn you if you dare ask a question which to them is obvious.
As long as being a fan is considered a merit, just like a diploma or something of the kind, the forums will never be a place where people can relax and have a good time.

These judgmens are annoying me much more than the silly posts about how tall Freddie is, or the various top 5 songs in each album.

Ps. Arlene, could you email me? I wanted to send you an email but I couldn't find your address.
Thanks

Fairy

Fairy-

I'm real happy to see you have this problem with me all of a sudden, if you would do your research, and put 2 + 2 together, the stupid title of this thread is meant as a joke to the user "Fruitside" who posted a thread that read:

"OMG, look what Scott Mercury wrote about Freddie"

What I wrote about Freddie, is that he used to have all male romps on a regular basis, where he would sometimes be with up to 5 men a night. (Which is 100% factual by the way, by several reliable sources account)

Then Fruitside, who happens to be 19, came on...absolutely could not believe that a rich, powerful, famous, homosexual rock star would EVER come up with the idea of indulging in more than one sex partner at a time... he called me a liar, assured me he was telling Freddie what I said , then he started the "Oh my god" thread.

While I was serious about being tired of 4 month fans arguing false Queen facts like a trial lawyer, the name of this thread "Who Scott thinks the real fans are".... was purely just a stupid, bullshit, jokingly used title as a pun on Fruitside using my name in a useless thread.

Again, I assumed everyone got this.
Wow, I guess that went over some heads.

What I should have said, Zeni, is that Queen's 70s output was totally diverse at a time when radio was totally diverse. To appreciate the impact Bohemian Rhapsody (and the video for it) had, you had to be around to understand the magnitude of the song's impact. I'm not saying that a teenager can't like or understand the song like an older fan can, but they are looking at it differently. I can't tell people who lived through WW2 that I know what they lived through, because I didn't and can't. That's how I meant to express my thoughts re: living at the time when Queen's music was art.

Sorry I didn't get the meaning of the subject line...But we are not supposed to be reading each and every post, and the joke doesn't change the meaning of your post, and what I think about it.
If you have a problem with one poster, then I think it would be more correct to address him or her without generalizing.

I have nothing against you in particular. I dislike your attitude (and you're not the only one), which only contributes to making the atmosphere on the forums less enjoyable. It's not nice to be afraid of being scorned each time one posts...

Fairy

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