sm is right. doesn't matter if you're an old or young, but if you started listen to queen yesterday you don't have to teach someone who listen for 20 years.
Thread
Posts in chronological order
Hmm..I'm 2 years older than Scott.. I recall my family had The Game LP that we would listen to when I was a youngun'. So I suppose that would make me a "fan" in 1980, when I was 3, and Scott didn't become a fan until '82... SCORE!!! ;-P
so the "older" thread starter thinks it wrong for the youngsters to have opinions and "spout off"
1. without the youngsters there is no future of queen - no albums getting bought no new audience = Bri & Rog retire
2. I was a queen fan in 1974, and i do concur that the "akom is better than queen II" notion is pure bollocks, but THEY are still entitled to their opinions....i will always love queen II first and foremost, and next queen I...but THAT DOESN'T MAKE ME RIGHT - being a "purist" isn't the only option....think about it - IF WE ALL LIKE GARAGE MUSIC, then there'd fuck-all other music in the world would there?
3, my 31 yrs of being a queen fan doesn't make me all-knowing, - there's much younger people in here (Caspar - is 18 i think), (i've no idea how old john Stuart or the Dutch Trilogy are, but i'll wager i give most of em 15+ yrs) who know a whole universe more of queen stuff than me. I'm in here to enjoy stuff and learn more, and occasionally take and receive the piss (in good humour)
my only regret - thAT THE FORUMS FOR MY OTHER FAVOURITE GROUP - THE BEATLES CAN'T SEEM TO BLEND MUSIC/KNOWLEDGE /FUN THE WAY qz DOES
FINALLY, How can the "minors" ever learn anything if we have a downer on them all the time? - okay - lambast, slaughter and generally obliterate the cretins AFTER they've had their "3 strikes and out" - but give em a fucking chance to grow up first!
1. without the youngsters there is no future of queen - no albums getting bought no new audience = Bri & Rog retire
2. I was a queen fan in 1974, and i do concur that the "akom is better than queen II" notion is pure bollocks, but THEY are still entitled to their opinions....i will always love queen II first and foremost, and next queen I...but THAT DOESN'T MAKE ME RIGHT - being a "purist" isn't the only option....think about it - IF WE ALL LIKE GARAGE MUSIC, then there'd fuck-all other music in the world would there?
3, my 31 yrs of being a queen fan doesn't make me all-knowing, - there's much younger people in here (Caspar - is 18 i think), (i've no idea how old john Stuart or the Dutch Trilogy are, but i'll wager i give most of em 15+ yrs) who know a whole universe more of queen stuff than me. I'm in here to enjoy stuff and learn more, and occasionally take and receive the piss (in good humour)
my only regret - thAT THE FORUMS FOR MY OTHER FAVOURITE GROUP - THE BEATLES CAN'T SEEM TO BLEND MUSIC/KNOWLEDGE /FUN THE WAY qz DOES
FINALLY, How can the "minors" ever learn anything if we have a downer on them all the time? - okay - lambast, slaughter and generally obliterate the cretins AFTER they've had their "3 strikes and out" - but give em a fucking chance to grow up first!
Scott, you blast so many people on here, especially newbies, but other fans too for "lame posts" about the members' of Queen's age, hair, trivial stuff.
1) That may be or seem trivial to YOU...but YOUR opinion, like everyone's is SUBJECTIVE. What seems trivial to you, and not the end all, life inspiring quest of deep holy grail knowledge, may seem important to another fan/person. Also, QZ is for discussion, and enjoyment of ALL "polite" (aka hopefully not rude/inflammatory) topics about
Queen. I like "Holy Grail" topics as much as fun topics too.
When I was a film major, now deceased Hollywood film Director Samuel Fuller spoke at my class. He said that film...too..is subjective. That film critics can be POMPOUS asses, not realizing that a fun, popcorn gulping cheerful flick...is as relevant TOO and has it's place TOO, as some landmark, cerebral. highbrow pseudo-intellectual dark film like Truffaut's "The Bicycle Thief" or an Akira Kurosawa film.
There is ART, AND there is ENTERTAINMENT...and both have their equal places and merits...
...as both Pseudo-intellectula Topics AND FUN Topics BOTH do on Queenzone...which is what it all boils down...a forum to discuss Queen...NOT a place to HARP on or to DEGRADE people as if it were a contest as to WHO is a bigger fan, or a smarter fan or wo starts more Intellectual Topics.
2)One thing that ticks me off, and NONE of us (me included) are immune...Is being a hypocrite.
But at least if you recognize it and correct your error fine.
The Major thing that rankles me about your topics and posts, BESIDES your arrogance, is....
...you consistantly rag on how much you admire Freddie as a musician/performer and that his being gay/sexual preference is irrelevant.......BUT........
...NO OTHER person on QZ, posts as MANY, GRAPHIC, TABLOID, INDULGENT, WORDY DETAILED IRRELEVANT portraits of Freddie's gay lifestyle (AS SEEN THROUGH THE EYES OF SCOTT MERCURY)....as YOU.
It's one thing, as alot of us QZ do, to bring up a sentence or 2. You go on and on about Freddie's escapades in LURID, graphic detail, (Gee I didn't know you were WITH Freddie to WITNESS this too),...
...constantly...and then you deride another person on QZ for a simple quick reference to Freddie.
Your story 2 days ago about Freddie pounding "man ass", does not shock me at all about what Freddie did. I am WELL AWARE of Freddie's hedonistic lifestyle.
But you sound as if you are auditioning to write for "Uncut Magazine", whose Spring Cover Story, claimed to be honoring Queen+Paul Rodgers and the legacy, influences, music of Queen, as well as Freddie....
...BUT then Uncut Magazine spent about 10% of the time discussing Queen's music, WHY it's influential and the history of the band and the stories behind their music...
...and about 90% of the time detailing their debauchery....which is EXACTLY what YOU do, All the time.
Look in the mirror buddie. People who throw stones, live in BIG glass houses.
1) That may be or seem trivial to YOU...but YOUR opinion, like everyone's is SUBJECTIVE. What seems trivial to you, and not the end all, life inspiring quest of deep holy grail knowledge, may seem important to another fan/person. Also, QZ is for discussion, and enjoyment of ALL "polite" (aka hopefully not rude/inflammatory) topics about
Queen. I like "Holy Grail" topics as much as fun topics too.
When I was a film major, now deceased Hollywood film Director Samuel Fuller spoke at my class. He said that film...too..is subjective. That film critics can be POMPOUS asses, not realizing that a fun, popcorn gulping cheerful flick...is as relevant TOO and has it's place TOO, as some landmark, cerebral. highbrow pseudo-intellectual dark film like Truffaut's "The Bicycle Thief" or an Akira Kurosawa film.
There is ART, AND there is ENTERTAINMENT...and both have their equal places and merits...
...as both Pseudo-intellectula Topics AND FUN Topics BOTH do on Queenzone...which is what it all boils down...a forum to discuss Queen...NOT a place to HARP on or to DEGRADE people as if it were a contest as to WHO is a bigger fan, or a smarter fan or wo starts more Intellectual Topics.
2)One thing that ticks me off, and NONE of us (me included) are immune...Is being a hypocrite.
But at least if you recognize it and correct your error fine.
The Major thing that rankles me about your topics and posts, BESIDES your arrogance, is....
...you consistantly rag on how much you admire Freddie as a musician/performer and that his being gay/sexual preference is irrelevant.......BUT........
...NO OTHER person on QZ, posts as MANY, GRAPHIC, TABLOID, INDULGENT, WORDY DETAILED IRRELEVANT portraits of Freddie's gay lifestyle (AS SEEN THROUGH THE EYES OF SCOTT MERCURY)....as YOU.
It's one thing, as alot of us QZ do, to bring up a sentence or 2. You go on and on about Freddie's escapades in LURID, graphic detail, (Gee I didn't know you were WITH Freddie to WITNESS this too),...
...constantly...and then you deride another person on QZ for a simple quick reference to Freddie.
Your story 2 days ago about Freddie pounding "man ass", does not shock me at all about what Freddie did. I am WELL AWARE of Freddie's hedonistic lifestyle.
But you sound as if you are auditioning to write for "Uncut Magazine", whose Spring Cover Story, claimed to be honoring Queen+Paul Rodgers and the legacy, influences, music of Queen, as well as Freddie....
...BUT then Uncut Magazine spent about 10% of the time discussing Queen's music, WHY it's influential and the history of the band and the stories behind their music...
...and about 90% of the time detailing their debauchery....which is EXACTLY what YOU do, All the time.
Look in the mirror buddie. People who throw stones, live in BIG glass houses.
I'm 34, and I think Queen and Queen II are the worst Queen albums except for Hot Space. This doesn't mean I don't like Queen and Queen II, but I prefer the new stuff.
Many have said that Freddie's album at some point was The Game. Wow, that means he's not a real Queen fan!!! He didn't say Queen and Queen II were his favorites!
LOL
Fairy
Many have said that Freddie's album at some point was The Game. Wow, that means he's not a real Queen fan!!! He didn't say Queen and Queen II were his favorites!
LOL
Fairy
Here's the deal.
Us mature fans, who were Queen fans long before there was a "Innuendo"...long before there was a "re-release" of Bohemian Rhapsody....long before there was a over-rated, unfunny movie called "Waynes World" ..... and who were fans long before the touring stopped, and Freddie's fight with his illness began... we are the real fans.
I notice that the group of older, more mature fans on this website also seemed to be more accepting of Paul Rodgers doing his best on this tour.
So, if Brenski, and Thomas Quinn, and Arlene...and a whole slew of others on here, that was blasting their ear drums with Freddie & Co. long before most of the "complainers" were born.... then why can't the bitchers and moaners take a hint???
Paul Rodgers isn't Freddie... yeah we know.
Paul's voice doesn't wrap around some of Queen's tunes like Freddie...yep, we are aware of that.
Paul doesn't have Freddie's range...or stage presence..... but then again, who does???
However, Paul Rodgers is one hell of a singer... and for most singers, they would shit their pants at the thought of filling in for Freddie on a Queen jam session.... Paul had the balls to lay it on the line, and give it a shot.
And Paul hasn't been this popular since 1976.
The fact is, we all LOVE FREDDIE.
No one is going to replace Freddie... duh, no shit.
I've had enough of the idiots, aged 12 to 18 on this website, who are trying to come out to mom and dad, and Freddie is their idol... (as of 3 months ago, so they are Freddie experts) .....
Or, 14 yr old girls, who have read 2 Queen articles, so now they are a fucking music historian.
I'm laying it on the line.... if you own 4 Queen cds... but haven't "saved up yet for the others".... should you really be posting here??
If you have been a Queen fan since 2003.... what the HELL could you possibly "teach" some of these people that we AT WEMBLEY...or AT MILTON KEYES???
The smartest ass mouths, and most reliable info on here seem to come from the teenagers, who just saw Waynes World on TBS, and are now a Queen genius... or , they've just kissed a member of the same sex...liked it...and are now trying to out themselves to the folks.
Meanwhile, they are Freddie experts...Queen experts.... and can conclusively tell you that Paul Rodgers sucks (Bryans Permed Poodle calls P.R. a "karoke singer").... and that Brian and Roger are money hungry moochers, who are trying to gain cash off of Freddie's legacy.
I, personally, have no interest in the "2 month" , newbie, 13 yr old fans at this point...who haven't a clue as to what they are talking about.
The "real fans" were there at the beginning, we'll be there at the end... I don't give a fuck if Lizi Minelli is the lead singer... I support Queen. period.
S.M.
I see your point, but there are teenage Queen fans, such as myself, who own EVERY Queen album (and think that Queen 2 is a whole lot better than Magic), watch anything remotely to do with Queen on TV, buy EVERY Queen VHS/DVD that is released, own several biogrophy books, despite the fact that they all more or less say the same thing and the list goes on and on.
I have been a Queen fan since before I can remember.
What do you think of THESE people?
The moral of this thread? Come gather round me (And if you are lucky, i might let you sit on my knee) and let Leppar teach you about proper music ie Def Leppard - AND if you are very lucky i might throw in some Queen knowledge as well! So come one, come all (No sexual jokes about those last four words please) and listen to the man - the legend - that is Leppar.
:)
Because it's obvious that what Scotty is trying to say is he wants more threads about the amazing Def Leppard.
:P
:)
Because it's obvious that what Scotty is trying to say is he wants more threads about the amazing Def Leppard.
:P
I'm 34, and I think Queen and Queen II are the worst Queen albums except for Hot Space. This doesn't mean I don't like Queen and Queen II, but I prefer the new stuff.
Many have said that Freddie's album at some point was The Game. Wow, that means he's not a real Queen fan!!! He didn't say Queen and Queen II were his favorites!
LOL , Fairy
applauds - well said - exactly as i said above mate!!
"2. I was a queen fan in 1974, and i do concur that the "akom is better than queen II" notion is pure bollocks, but THEY are still entitled to their opinions....i will always love queen II first and foremost, and next queen I...but THAT DOESN'T MAKE ME RIGHT - being a "purist" isn't the only option....think about it - IF WE ALL LIKE GARAGE MUSIC, then there'd fuck-all other music in the world would there?"
...and by purist - i mean whever the majority behold as the greatest - which usually in here is ANATO
double it up homies!
Fruit Side
This is the kind of crap which started all of this.
Wouldn't you rather talk about Queen and their music?
Whether someone is young or old doesn't matter - it is whether they are decent or just abusive that matters.
For example, the post above from 'Linda Of The Valley' is an example of what I would class as an abusive idiot - she may be 12 or she maybe 52, I don't know but it is not the post of a mental mature person ... as are a few others in the thread.
Age doesn't necessarily mean wisdom or create manners - common decency helps with that. If we try to treat people well then there would be no problems ... except for those that only exist to cause problems and they are not worth bothering with anyway.
For example, the post above from 'Linda Of The Valley' is an example of what I would class as an abusive idiot - she may be 12 or she maybe 52, I don't know but it is not the post of a mental mature person ... as are a few others in the thread.
Age doesn't necessarily mean wisdom or create manners - common decency helps with that. If we try to treat people well then there would be no problems ... except for those that only exist to cause problems and they are not worth bothering with anyway.
Whether someone is young or old doesn't matter - it is whether they are decent or just abusive that matters.
Yeah, and fuck you for suddenly going all abusive about Linda in the nest paragraph mate.
For example, the post above from 'Linda Of The Valley' is an example of what I would class as an abusive idiot - she may be 12 or she maybe 52, I don't know but it is not the post of a mental mature person ... as are a few others in the thread.
Once again, fuck you you hypocritical cock-sucking asswipe. And yes, I do intend on being abusive, JUST LIKE YOU!! :)
Arlene-
At the end of the day, I guess we will all contribute whatever we want to this website.
Arlene... you are the last person that should be scolding anyone about long, lengthy, detailed posts...
You write several chapters per post.
The descriptive images about Freddie's sex life are used for 2 reasons:
1) While you will never see me harm a gay person.... and I have many gay/lesbian friends.... in my eyes ...ITS SOOOO FUNNY!! C'mon... you know comments like "pounding man ass" "all you can spray, cum buffett" ... are not things that should be said on a regular basis... but once in a while, they are good for a chuckle... so if you are gay..cool. Its still funny to me.
2) While posters such as Sharon G describe how "Freddie has an ass she'd like to lick" ... its nice to remind her that her dad probably has an ass that Freddie may have wanted to sample.
If I knew Freddie, we'd totally hang out... at night, we'd go our own ways (me to my wife) ... him to the gay bars... the next day, we would hang out, totally be friends... and I'd totally tease him (jokingly) about the night before where he was on a bologna pony of some dude.
I hate people who try to hide around the fact that Fred was gay. He was gay. so what....
I little joke here and there about it is ok. right?
Of all the gay jokes in the world, commedians probably would quit coming up with them if no one liked them.
I changed my mind...
Post all the dumb shit you want, everyone.
Arlene seems to have about 15 hours a day to spare to answer all questions you have. :)
At the end of the day, I guess we will all contribute whatever we want to this website.
Arlene... you are the last person that should be scolding anyone about long, lengthy, detailed posts...
You write several chapters per post.
The descriptive images about Freddie's sex life are used for 2 reasons:
1) While you will never see me harm a gay person.... and I have many gay/lesbian friends.... in my eyes ...ITS SOOOO FUNNY!! C'mon... you know comments like "pounding man ass" "all you can spray, cum buffett" ... are not things that should be said on a regular basis... but once in a while, they are good for a chuckle... so if you are gay..cool. Its still funny to me.
2) While posters such as Sharon G describe how "Freddie has an ass she'd like to lick" ... its nice to remind her that her dad probably has an ass that Freddie may have wanted to sample.
If I knew Freddie, we'd totally hang out... at night, we'd go our own ways (me to my wife) ... him to the gay bars... the next day, we would hang out, totally be friends... and I'd totally tease him (jokingly) about the night before where he was on a bologna pony of some dude.
I hate people who try to hide around the fact that Fred was gay. He was gay. so what....
I little joke here and there about it is ok. right?
Of all the gay jokes in the world, commedians probably would quit coming up with them if no one liked them.
I changed my mind...
Post all the dumb shit you want, everyone.
Arlene seems to have about 15 hours a day to spare to answer all questions you have. :)
Hmmm...
Again, I raise the point of not taking offense to shit you find on a forum.
Even funny, slurry shit.
Again, I raise the point of not taking offense to shit you find on a forum.
Even funny, slurry shit.
Whether someone is young or old doesn't matter - it is whether they are decent or just abusive that matters.
Yeah, and fuck you for suddenly going all abusive about Linda in the nest paragraph mate.
For example, the post above from 'Linda Of The Valley' is an example of what I would class as an abusive idiot - she may be 12 or she maybe 52, I don't know but it is not the post of a mental mature person ... as are a few others in the thread.
Once again, fuck you you hypocritical cock-sucking asswipe. And yes, I do intend on being abusive, JUST LIKE YOU!! :)
I was just using Linda's message as an example as it was the last on the thread when I posted - I'm sure you are grown up enough to understand that.
If I looked back further I'm sure I could find similar examples from others but that was the most recent one.
Just to give an insight to you all about myself on this discussion...
I was born in 1982 - making me 22 (23 in November).
I have been into Queen for as long as I can remember, although I did not start my collection until 1994.
I remember the release of The Miracle album - watching the video for I Want It All on TV-AM in 1989.
Does my age classify me as a "mature fan" or not? I don't agree that "those who were fans before the touring stopped" are the real fans. What does age have to do with it?
I would have loved to have been around in the 1970's but I wasn't. I've never seen Queen live, and never will do.
I don't log onto Queenzone to teach people anything, I just offer my opinion as and when I see fit.
I was born in 1982 - making me 22 (23 in November).
I have been into Queen for as long as I can remember, although I did not start my collection until 1994.
I remember the release of The Miracle album - watching the video for I Want It All on TV-AM in 1989.
Does my age classify me as a "mature fan" or not? I don't agree that "those who were fans before the touring stopped" are the real fans. What does age have to do with it?
I would have loved to have been around in the 1970's but I wasn't. I've never seen Queen live, and never will do.
I don't log onto Queenzone to teach people anything, I just offer my opinion as and when I see fit.