queen and rodgers

All I Hear Is Radio Gaga wrote:

I feel a riot about to begin...

not from me, mate!
i don't subscribe to the idiotic 'no queen without fred' lunacy. they have every right to carry on working as Queen - but i think the live output should truly reflect queen's music down the years.

i do think BM is trying to expunge FM from the 'live scene' - if at the very least to 'big up' or increase his own 'self-importance' must be terrible for the poor fella that even now, 14 years after FM's demise, he can't be seen as a song-writing equal by most queen fans.

let's face it, if you're new to queen and you go to see them live and all you hear is BM tracks - you may just think that you';re hearing their best songs...

Did it ever occur to anyone that Brian's songs simply suit Paul's voice the best? They really ROCK on this tour and the reason is- Brian's tracks are riff driven. Riffs, blues- that's what Paul is all about. Now Freddie's tracks are in vast majority piano based. Yeah, sure- Spike could play those parts, but... Wouldn't we complain than that there's too much Freddie there and that they're ripping of his legacy...? Brian's tracks simply suit Rodgers' voice the best. Fat Bottomed Girls or I Want It all were those that on this tour sounded the best. Go figure...
And c'mon- Freddie's very much there. Empty stool, dedications to Love Of My Life, BoRhap... I actually thought it was too much... Especially the screen and BoRhap...

sorry fenderek, i have to disagree
the setlist shows that freddie's presence is being 'written out' of the queen live formula

let's face a couple of facts here
1. Freddie wrote almost half of ALL queen songs written.
2. there are stacks of other freddie tracks that paul could sing

liar
stl
lap of the gods (rev)
ogre battle
melancholy blues
born to love you
made in heaven

all they require is a little reworking or rearrangement...not exactly difficult...just appears laziness and a wish to dispose of some live classics

When was it alst time Ogre Battkle was played? How was Born To Love You or Made In Heaven live classics? I was surprised there was nothing from made In Heaven... And I could agree on STL- that would actually really suit Paul's voice! But Liar- I'm not so sure... C'mon- when ppl were saying which songs would REALLY suit Rodgers' style- they were coming up with even more Brian's songs! White Man- Man, he would have really kick ass with atht song!
See What A Fool I've Been- we've got the best white blues singer EVER and there's no blues...
It's Late- again- PERFECT for Paul...

I don't see it this way. In The Lap Of The Gods...? Could have been gfun, I agree- but than we'd complAin they mirror MAGIC tour setlist! I could come up with other Freddie's tracks that would fit BETTER- Get Down Make Love for instance, another PERFECT for Paul...
Man- I'm not going to defend this set list. I'd love to hear more stuff from 70s. But I'm affraid majority of those I'd kill to hear are as well Brian's songs... BECAUSE I think they really, REALLY suit Paul... And I really don't acre who wrote them...

i didin't use the words 'live classic' when referring to the new songs...i jsut thought they could choose not to be lazy and add some of the later stuff that FM wrote

also STL, ITLATG and liar would all work
- it's about arrangement...and if they're too lazy well then that just endorses the theory that they are just in it to make more fast bucks...much like the WWRY musical eh?

let's face it you get two old established rockstars with f-all to do and an 'alternative comedian' who hates everthing establishment and THATS the formula for making a musical about a rock band? - Queen were everthing Ben Elton kicked against during the 80s and 90s - so why the change of heart?

<font color=green>Bren<font color=orange>ski wrote:

Queen were everthing Ben Elton kicked against during the 80s and 90s - so why the change of heart?

Ehm... Money?
But taht's not about set list, is it :) OK- I agree with you on MiH tracks- I was surprised they weren't there, I was REALLY surprised there were no more tracks from both MIRACLE and INNUENDO- Those tracks they never had a chance to perform, those would be really welcome.. Man, I'd kill for Breakthru... (and I think it'd suit Paul as well). Laziness? OK- maybe... Come to think of it- they mostly played tracks they already knew by heart...

How about this one. Does it really matter who the lead vocalist is? Seems that everybody going to this show is just in for a Bri and Rog sighting. In most of the tracks from the recent shows I've heard, the crowd tends to do the work drowning out PR. In the immortal words of Martha Stewart, "that's a good thing."

yamamamia wrote:

How about this one. Does it really matter who the lead vocalist is? Seems that everybody going to this show is just in for a Bri and Rog sighting. In most of the tracks from the recent shows I've heard, the crowd tends to do the work drowning out PR. In the immortal words of Martha Stewart, "that's a good thing."

well i wouldn't be into going to any gig for "star spotting" - that's a almost laughable notion...you don't pay £50 for a night out - just to look at the band...i'd expect to be enteratined musically and by the lightshow too

and yes the vocalist does matter...there's plenty of great singers around who would ruin the image of queen if they'd been singing on this tour

yamamamia wrote:

How about this one. Does it really matter who the lead vocalist is? Seems that everybody going to this show is just in for a Bri and Rog sighting. In most of the tracks from the recent shows I've heard, the crowd tends to do the work drowning out PR. In the immortal words of Martha Stewart, "that's a good thing."

No man- believe me, had they gone on tour with Blobbie Willaims I'd have stayed at home. Vocalist DOES matter- someone has to sing those songs in decent way AND not jump around like fool but have a stage presence. paul did that and even more. I actually must admnit that AFTER this tour I'm a huge fan of Paul's voice- the technique, the power- it's AMAZING. And everybody knows that if he tried to sing Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy he'd ahve failed miserably. So vocalist does matter... Have you been to any of those shows...?

Fenderek wrote:

yamamamia wrote:

How about this one. Does it really matter who the lead vocalist is? Seems that everybody going to this show is just in for a Bri and Rog sighting. In most of the tracks from the recent shows I've heard, the crowd tends to do the work drowning out PR. In the immortal words of Martha Stewart, "that's a good thing."

No man- believe me, had they gone on tour with Blobbie Willaims I'd have stayed at home.

Sorry, Fenderek, but I doubt in this your statement...

Serry... wrote:

Fenderek wrote:

yamamamia wrote:

How about this one. Does it really matter who the lead vocalist is? Seems that everybody going to this show is just in for a Bri and Rog sighting. In most of the tracks from the recent shows I've heard, the crowd tends to do the work drowning out PR. In the immortal words of Martha Stewart, "that's a good thing."

No man- believe me, had they gone on tour with Blobbie Willaims I'd have stayed at home.

Sorry, Fenderek, but I doubt in this your statement...

Well- I won't convince you :) But I'm absolutely sure I wouldn't have attended those shows...

Fenderek wrote:

Well- I won't convince you :)

Tak, to byloby jest trudny!

Serry... wrote:

Fenderek wrote:

Well- I won't convince you :)

Tak, to byloby jest trudny!

Ehm... Should be
Tak, to byloby trudne :)
But nice effort :)

Fenderek wrote:

Serry... wrote:

Fenderek wrote:

Well- I won't convince you :)

Tak, to byloby jest trudny!

Ehm... Should be
Tak, to byloby trudne :)
But nice effort :)

My Polish as well as my English (as well as about 200 other languages) is terrible :) Sorry!

Serry... wrote:

Fenderek wrote:

Serry... wrote:

Fenderek wrote:

Well- I won't convince you :)

Tak, to byloby jest trudny!

Ehm... Should be
Tak, to byloby trudne :)
But nice effort :)

My Polish as well as my English (as well as about 200 other languages) is terrible :) Sorry!

Oy veyizemere! Multilingual you are! :)

But can you all get back to English so little mono-lingual (That's a word I made up for poor pitiful people like me who only speak one language), can follow along...and respond.

Muchos Gracios! :) (I took 5 years Spanish this is about as much as I know!)

Also...NOW that I am starting to actually know and like the music of Robbie I bear umbrage to the use of ''Blobbie'', unless you are referring to my gooey monster friend starring in Steve McQueen's first film ''The Blob''!