Nope, haven't been to any of the Q+PR shows. Don't need to. Saw them since Dec.10.1977. Just think that there's a larger percent of people going to see Q, and most going weren't even an idea in life itself when they we're on the scene. I guess I am glad it's not Liza M. at the helm with this one. Nevertheless, the remainig two are my heroes for life.
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Nope, haven't been to any of the Q+PR shows. Don't need to. Saw them since Dec.10.1977. Just think that there's a larger percent of people going to see Q, and most going weren't even an idea in life itself when they we're on the scene. I guess I am glad it's not Liza M. at the helm with this one. Nevertheless, the remainig two are my heroes for life.
Liza M. must be Liza Minelli... Q sure must be Queen, right? But you saw them since Dec. 10th 1977 ? Every single day? Every concert since then? Boy... how boring! :-((
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PS: Isn´t John still alive? Did he die? Say hello to Fred tomorrow or whenever you´ll see him next week! ;-)
Here is a list of Brian's songs NOT being played on this tour, that quite easily could be:
Dead On Time
Doing All Right
Dragon Attack
Dreamer's Ball
Fat Bottomed Girls
Father To Son
Flash
Headlong
I Can't Live With You
I Go Crazy
It's Late
Keep Yourself Alive
Long Away
Now I'm Here
Put Out The Fire
Save Me
See What A Fool I've Been
Sleeping On The Sidewalk
Some Day One Day
Son And Daughter
Sweet Lady
Tear It Up
The Hero
The Hitman
The Prophet's Song
White Man
White Queen
I think there's a helluva lot more omissions here than you'd have for Freddie's stuff.
Dead On Time
Doing All Right
Dragon Attack
Dreamer's Ball
Fat Bottomed Girls
Father To Son
Flash
Headlong
I Can't Live With You
I Go Crazy
It's Late
Keep Yourself Alive
Long Away
Now I'm Here
Put Out The Fire
Save Me
See What A Fool I've Been
Sleeping On The Sidewalk
Some Day One Day
Son And Daughter
Sweet Lady
Tear It Up
The Hero
The Hitman
The Prophet's Song
White Man
White Queen
I think there's a helluva lot more omissions here than you'd have for Freddie's stuff.
Here is a list of Brian's songs NOT being played on this tour, that quite easily could be:
Dead On Time
Doing All Right
Dragon Attack
Dreamer's Ball
Fat Bottomed Girls
Father To Son
Flash
Headlong
I Can't Live With You
I Go Crazy
It's Late
Keep Yourself Alive
Long Away
Now I'm Here
Put Out The Fire
Save Me
See What A Fool I've Been
Sleeping On The Sidewalk
Some Day One Day
Son And Daughter
Sweet Lady
Tear It Up
The Hero
The Hitman
The Prophet's Song
White Man
White Queen
I think there's a helluva lot more omissions here than you'd have for Freddie's stuff.
Long Away has been played on this tour.
Sorry, overlooked Long Away, and I meant more than a snippet. My point is that a lot of Freddie's stuff, while amazing, is just not suited to the stage. Check my post on the Serious discussion page for my thoughts.
I've checked and replied already. I'm not an expert or musician, so I'd better listen to what you guys says about if Freddie's tracks would suit or not, but as I wrote - it's unclear for me why 'I Want It All' now officially credites to Brian. But for instance Hijack My Heart or A Winter's Tale (last song written by Freddie, means something, doesn't?) are still 'Queen' tracks... I don't see the point.
Sorry, overlooked Long Away, and I meant more than a snippet. My point is that a lot of Freddie's stuff, while amazing, is just not suited to the stage. Check my post on the Serious discussion page for my thoughts.
and i have to disagree. freddie's songs were perfect for Queen Live
i posted somewhere else that from the Opera Tour to The Magic tour Freddie had between 8 and 12 songs on each typical setlist. Now after his departure - the first real queen tour he gets FOUR songs!!! Freddie's songs were suited to the stage - while HE had a say in the matter!!! now the group is heading into the SMILE era again, we'll hear lots and lots of Brian tracks - and that's the facts.
for those that didn't see:
here's my post from God Save The Queen thread:
Posted: 7/28/2005 5:30:21 PM
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sorry but i have to disagree with this...FM's songs are getting pushed further back - until all that will be left will be the one's you can't have a queen concert without - ie BoRhap and WATC - believe me this will happen
FM had seven songs on the magic tour (icl co-writes)
he now has four
here's his totals
magic - 7
works - 11
HS -9
game (europe) - 9
crazy - 11
l/killers - 10
jazz - 8
NOTW - 11
races - 12
opera - 10
here's my post from God Save The Queen thread:
Posted: 7/28/2005 5:30:21 PM
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sorry but i have to disagree with this...FM's songs are getting pushed further back - until all that will be left will be the one's you can't have a queen concert without - ie BoRhap and WATC - believe me this will happen
FM had seven songs on the magic tour (icl co-writes)
he now has four
here's his totals
magic - 7
works - 11
HS -9
game (europe) - 9
crazy - 11
l/killers - 10
jazz - 8
NOTW - 11
races - 12
opera - 10
And Brenski, here's my post from the God save the Queen post:
"Anybody who thinks that Brian is trying to re-write history or lessen Freddie's accomplishments is on crack. Let's be real. This is a rock show. If you take the Miracle and Innuendo albums as Queen composed songs, then Freddie's last real 'rock' song was Princes of the Universe. It was never played live. So that's AKOM done. The Works? It's a Hard Life, Man on the Prowl and Open Windows. None work. Hot Space? Staying Power is the only song possible, it was played solely for the Hot Space tour and it hardly fits the setlist. The Game? Play the Game is a possibility (not a great one for PR), and they play Crazy. Jazz? Mustapha, Jealousy, Bicycle Race (great song, popular, but ridiculous if sung by anyone but FM), Let me entertain You is a possibility, but only played one tour and hardly a staple, Dont's stop me Now (see Bicycle Race), so no real candidates from Jazz. News has Champions, Get Down Make Love could work, Melancholy Blues couldn't. ADATR would only get STL as an option. ANATO has BR, LOML, and those are the only options. SHA has Killer Queen, don't know if that's PR's cup of tea, Lily of the Valley, Leroy Brown are out, and possibly both Lap songs could be played. On II, apart from SSOR, which is ridiculous for PR to sing lyrically, there's never anything from that album live. And Queen would give us Liar only, which I'd love to see them do.
IMHO, there's not a lot of Freddie songs to choose from. They play the hits for the most part, but this tour sticks to more of the straight ahead rock stuff, which was written primarily by Brian. How that makes him re-writing Queen history is a sttrtch to say the least. The reasons Freddie's total decreased each tour is that he and Brian were the primary songwriters up to NOTW when John and Roger got two songs. So after NOTW off the top of my head, the band had 67 songs in their catalogue. Roger had written 7, John 5. Where do you think the majority of songs were going to come from live? And following that, who thinks stuff like Cool Cat, Life is Real, Pain is so... and stuff like that would work live? Uh, uh. That's why Brian's stuff is featured, it always had prominent guitar."
"Anybody who thinks that Brian is trying to re-write history or lessen Freddie's accomplishments is on crack. Let's be real. This is a rock show. If you take the Miracle and Innuendo albums as Queen composed songs, then Freddie's last real 'rock' song was Princes of the Universe. It was never played live. So that's AKOM done. The Works? It's a Hard Life, Man on the Prowl and Open Windows. None work. Hot Space? Staying Power is the only song possible, it was played solely for the Hot Space tour and it hardly fits the setlist. The Game? Play the Game is a possibility (not a great one for PR), and they play Crazy. Jazz? Mustapha, Jealousy, Bicycle Race (great song, popular, but ridiculous if sung by anyone but FM), Let me entertain You is a possibility, but only played one tour and hardly a staple, Dont's stop me Now (see Bicycle Race), so no real candidates from Jazz. News has Champions, Get Down Make Love could work, Melancholy Blues couldn't. ADATR would only get STL as an option. ANATO has BR, LOML, and those are the only options. SHA has Killer Queen, don't know if that's PR's cup of tea, Lily of the Valley, Leroy Brown are out, and possibly both Lap songs could be played. On II, apart from SSOR, which is ridiculous for PR to sing lyrically, there's never anything from that album live. And Queen would give us Liar only, which I'd love to see them do.
IMHO, there's not a lot of Freddie songs to choose from. They play the hits for the most part, but this tour sticks to more of the straight ahead rock stuff, which was written primarily by Brian. How that makes him re-writing Queen history is a sttrtch to say the least. The reasons Freddie's total decreased each tour is that he and Brian were the primary songwriters up to NOTW when John and Roger got two songs. So after NOTW off the top of my head, the band had 67 songs in their catalogue. Roger had written 7, John 5. Where do you think the majority of songs were going to come from live? And following that, who thinks stuff like Cool Cat, Life is Real, Pain is so... and stuff like that would work live? Uh, uh. That's why Brian's stuff is featured, it always had prominent guitar."
but look at the figures - up until his death he EASILy got more songs per set than any other band member HITS/or NOT - it's irrelevant...songs came and went from the set - but Freddie still had the Lion's Share - until NOW, that is!!! - and thta's indesputable
for those that didn't see:
here's my post from God Save The Queen thread:
Posted: 7/28/2005 5:30:21 PM
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sorry but i have to disagree with this...FM's songs are getting pushed further back - until all that will be left will be the one's you can't have a queen concert without - ie BoRhap and WATC - believe me this will happen
FM had seven songs on the magic tour (icl co-writes)
he now has four
here's his totals
magic - 7
works - 11
HS -9
game (europe) - 9
crazy - 11
l/killers - 10
jazz - 8
NOTW - 11
races - 12
opera - 10
Martin, I saw your post in that thread. Did you see mine?
You're missing the point Brenski. It's Queen AND Paul Rodgers on tour. Maybe you could see PR singing Bicycle Race or Killer Queen. Those are two popular Fred songs that aren't being played. I think that PR would sound ridiculous singing songs like that, and a great number of others from Fred's catalogue. In fact, I think it speaks to the uniqueness of Freddie that they're not playing a lot of those songs. Paul Rodgers is a wonderful blues/rock singer. Brian wrote a lot in that vein. Freddie didn't. From what I understand, Paul has trouble with the subtleties of IWTBF in concert. Imagine him trying to sing Killer Queen or Bicycle Race. It'd be a disaster.
The fact remains, Fred's 'rock' output was in short supply from Jazz on. If you feel that Brian is trying to pull some revisionist history because of the songs and style of songs played on this tour, you're grasping at straws, but entitled to your opinion.
The fact remains, Fred's 'rock' output was in short supply from Jazz on. If you feel that Brian is trying to pull some revisionist history because of the songs and style of songs played on this tour, you're grasping at straws, but entitled to your opinion.
Martin, I saw your post in that thread. Did you see mine?
Arlene, i agree. my whole point was around Brian's need to cash in on queen. and what better way for BHM to make more money, than by removing the 'great and the good' from the setlist
i smell a RS-shaped rat!!!
whatever next?
Queen Tour 2006 - Sponsored by CROWN Paint & ROYAL bank of Scotland?
You're missing the point Brenski. It's Queen AND Paul Rodgers on tour. .
I didn't miss the point at all.
But in case you missed my point here's soemthings i noticed
1. there were FOUR writers in queen, now with PR that makes FIVE. A typical setlist is between 20-25 songs in length.
2. Divide the setlist into five songs each writer, there's easily enough by each writer to suit the PR vocals
3. Brian gets more than a third of the new setlist....sounds like money-grabbing to me
4. finally, your 'nick' BHM 0271 - wonder who you named that after? not as if you'd defend Brian's corner unduly with a 'nick' like that now, is it?
can i jus ask why neccersarily does paul have to sing all the songs? bri and roger sing some anyway why not killer queen ssor liar? a song that does seem to be overlooked is march of the black queen, why not have roger singin the high 'silly' beginning brian the soft ballad part and paul singin the heavy rock bit. i realise this is very unlikely as queen never played it in its entirety but i think that it would be intresting to hear. and having not seen any of the tour(being a student doesnt pay well!) i dont know how many john songs r played does any one know?