as a reaction to the filmed show on December the 8th , 1974, in The Hague, Congresgebouw, where Queen were support to Mott the Hoople...i was there too, and the man who filmed it is a friend of mine. he will not ever give it away. It is rehearsals, show, and backstage according to what he told me, and he wants this tape ( vision only, no sound, i was told, in black and white too) to become his "pension". If Queen were ever to get this film, they will have to pay dearly for it, as the man has asked me to negociate for him, when he recovers this film from his storage. He told me this lready in 1993, when he filmed (again) my Tilburg Tribute gig, and i met him again in Februar this year, and we spoke about this again. I have his adress and phonenumber, and will get back on this issue with him asap. I too, would want to see this film ofcourse. And if it does exist, and is still any good...then i will really ask the highest price possible for this film for him. And if QP won't buy it, then the world will never get to see it i fear. It is the right of this man, to not sell HIS film if the price he wants for it isn't being payed. He will put it on the internet then, for the highest bidder...I am not making up a story here, i am not bullshitting you with this. I WILL go to him, and we'll have a go at searching and trying to find this film. I wonder how much Queen would be willing to pay for such unique and mega rare footage anyway...My friend was thinking about a million euro's, wich doesn't sound that bad to me at all....let's here it from them when the film IS really there. It was a fab show anyway...i was 11 years young, and didn't understand one bit of it all, but i loved it. And after they finished, the band just came off-stage and walked through the audience, and i got stroked on the head by all of them...2 weeks later i saw them again, when (for AVRO Top-Pop) the Killer Queen clip was filmed, and me and my family were there too, as my dad had to record an interview for AVRO radio then. The next year BoRap came, and i was a fan ever since...isn't it beautiful, the way things sometimes go? Anyway...i'll give it my best shot at this guy, and IF it turnes up, i WILL immediately tell you guys about it....the only thing i hope is that he kept it really safe... it has been a long long time since it was filmed...i'll light a candle now....cheerzzz
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by the way, the man who filmed it then, is NOT a german man. After "the tilburg tribute" in 1993, i lost track of him, and just this year (so 13 years later) he was in my city again. He was working as a tourpromotor and concert-film-maker in Germany all these years. He filmed the biggest bands on earth. We had a long talk about this film, and he was very determined to find it. I didn't have the time yet to go and visit him yet, but as said, i will pick up this lead, and do my very best to find out the truth about is story. And if it was a made-up story from him, i will also inform you about it in due time. I'll even put his name and number here then ! hahaha...then he'll be all yours to ....well...eeuh....to....to write to him the way you write to Greg al the time! hahaha...that will teac him then...won't it!? But first....i'll go and search !
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]the_hero wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]bas asselbergs wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I find it a kind of confusing, to read : "jss" all the time, meaning John S. Steward i guess? I would rather see him called any other way. As "JSS" in my dictionary stands for the brilliant and respected super entertainer Mr. Jeff Scott Soto. I feel it is doing Jeff unjustice to have John S. Steward being called the same way. Jeff deserves better ![/QUOTE]
Does it really matter? John, JSS John S. we all know who we're talking about, as Jeff Scott never copyrighted the nickname so who really cares.[/QUOTE]
JSS could also refer to Queen producer Justin Shirley-Smith as well.
Does it really matter? John, JSS John S. we all know who we're talking about, as Jeff Scott never copyrighted the nickname so who really cares.[/QUOTE]
JSS could also refer to Queen producer Justin Shirley-Smith as well.
and the JSS "nickname"(?) has been officially registered as a productname and trademark by Jeff. Even the logo from JSS is copyright protected. amen.
In the UK you can call yourself anything you like so long as it does not infringe on any tax you may pay.
Also in the UK you cannot copyright a name - you can only trademark it.
So John S Stuart or JSS or John Stuart can call himself anything he likes :P
Also in the UK you cannot copyright a name - you can only trademark it.
So John S Stuart or JSS or John Stuart can call himself anything he likes :P
Dear Mr Mercury (another one talking about NOTHING TO DO WITH the Sunbury gig, on this Sunbury gig thread, but never mind), who wrote...
In the UK you can call yourself anything you like so long as it does not infringe on any tax you may pay. Also in the UK you cannot copyright a name - you can only trademark it.
So John S Stuart or JSS or John Stuart can call himself anything he likes.
AM I ALLOWED TO SUGGEST WHAT JOHN S. STUART CAN BE CALLED???
GO ON, PLEASE.
LET ME PLAY. LET ME LET ME LET ME!
In the UK you can call yourself anything you like so long as it does not infringe on any tax you may pay. Also in the UK you cannot copyright a name - you can only trademark it.
So John S Stuart or JSS or John Stuart can call himself anything he likes.
AM I ALLOWED TO SUGGEST WHAT JOHN S. STUART CAN BE CALLED???
GO ON, PLEASE.
LET ME PLAY. LET ME LET ME LET ME!
Who is this 'Archivist' guy???
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Hadrian wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Who is this 'Archivist' guy???[/QUOTE]
He's Queen's Archivist who i such a treat to have around! lol NOT
He's Queen's Archivist who i such a treat to have around! lol NOT
Yeah, I know. It's sad that he has all this 'power' and yet comes up here and acts like a kid.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Queen Archivist wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Dear Mr Mercury (another one talking about NOTHING TO DO WITH the Sunbury gig, on this Sunbury gig thread, but never mind), who wrote...
In the UK you can call yourself anything you like so long as it does not infringe on any tax you may pay. Also in the UK you cannot copyright a name - you can only trademark it.
So John S Stuart or JSS or John Stuart can call himself anything he likes.
AM I ALLOWED TO SUGGEST WHAT JOHN S. STUART CAN BE CALLED???
GO ON, PLEASE.
LET ME PLAY. LET ME LET ME LET ME![/QUOTE]
If you had bothered to read my post properly, you would have realised I that replying to the post above mines (from bas asselbergs) regarding copyright of names. Go on read it - and then re-read my post Only John can call himself anything he wants.
As to whether you are allowed to suggest what John can be called - you go ahead if it makes you feel better. Personally I would hope that you would just keep quiet because any shred of respect for you that I might have had is slowly disappearing....
And by the way, the reason I never went about about the Sunbury gig is because I knew fuck all about it till the subject came up on here, ok?
Oh and by the way, dont bother even replying to this post as I'll just ignore it.
In the UK you can call yourself anything you like so long as it does not infringe on any tax you may pay. Also in the UK you cannot copyright a name - you can only trademark it.
So John S Stuart or JSS or John Stuart can call himself anything he likes.
AM I ALLOWED TO SUGGEST WHAT JOHN S. STUART CAN BE CALLED???
GO ON, PLEASE.
LET ME PLAY. LET ME LET ME LET ME![/QUOTE]
If you had bothered to read my post properly, you would have realised I that replying to the post above mines (from bas asselbergs) regarding copyright of names. Go on read it - and then re-read my post Only John can call himself anything he wants.
As to whether you are allowed to suggest what John can be called - you go ahead if it makes you feel better. Personally I would hope that you would just keep quiet because any shred of respect for you that I might have had is slowly disappearing....
And by the way, the reason I never went about about the Sunbury gig is because I knew fuck all about it till the subject came up on here, ok?
Oh and by the way, dont bother even replying to this post as I'll just ignore it.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]bigV wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]John S Stuart wrote: [/QUOTENAME]PS: I think your idea of a 'board' of archivists (and preservationists - to add my own 2p) was an excllent idea.[/QUOTE]
Thanks. I thought so too. I was going to name 4 or 5 names, but then I was tempted to include my own name and... :D
V.
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Well, as long as JSS and Martin Scully are on that list...[/QUOTE]
Can I sneak my way onto the list too?[/QUOTE]
Whoops. Yes, you ought to have been! We haven't a musician yet on there.[/QUOTE]
Hooray!
Thanks. I thought so too. I was going to name 4 or 5 names, but then I was tempted to include my own name and... :D
V.
[/QUOTE]
Well, as long as JSS and Martin Scully are on that list...[/QUOTE]
Can I sneak my way onto the list too?[/QUOTE]
Whoops. Yes, you ought to have been! We haven't a musician yet on there.[/QUOTE]
Hooray!
Bas...please explain how you saw Queen support Mott the Hoople in December 1974 when:
a) Queen headlined that tour
b) Mott played their last ever concert in November 74.
a) Queen headlined that tour
b) Mott played their last ever concert in November 74.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]YoungStratMan wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Penetration_Guru wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Didn't Sunbury get mentioned a few months back? Someone had allegedly got it from ABC's archive. Then, as Greg says, nothing happens.
Mr Strat, from bitter experience I will join YV & GB in the "I'll believe it when I see it" camp. Too many wild claims unfulfilled, by both random individuals and QPL (Top 100 bootlegs, that's maybe for another thread).
The other problem is that StratMan makes an impossible demand - he'll only give it if it gets released. Sorry, that's unreasonable.[/QUOTE]
You know what, i have decided something, i will NOT give you guys shit! You won't even give me the fucking chance to share something with you, so i will sell it or trade it then, how about that, you can thank GB, YV, & PG and others who don't want to put their pride aside for a moment and let someone share a rarity that may prove them wrong, i really could care less about the disbelief, really i do not care, i know what i have and there are several True collectors here that know i have it, and maybe they will be the only ones who get it? So go ahead everyone do what Greg says you will do, i will give the green light, go ahead start whining and ranting about me. I couldn't care less, in the whole time i have been here (since 00) the only one who has even taken the time to talk serious is JSS. Have a good day, and have fun talking shit. :)[/QUOTE]
Of course, a couple of people politely saying that we have been let down by (at the time) wild promises gives you the opportunity to back down without actually admitting you don't have it.
...would be one way of looking at that response. Read my post again and then re-read your overreaction to it.
You're not doing anything to convince me that you have this footage. If you CAN convince me, I will happily run around half the internet proclaiming the inaccuracy of my preconception, and I'm sure YV & GB would be equally forthcoming is conceding that their lack of faith in you was unfounded.
Until that point...grow up, and quit using this "business trip" to clog up the internet with abuse.
Mr Strat, from bitter experience I will join YV & GB in the "I'll believe it when I see it" camp. Too many wild claims unfulfilled, by both random individuals and QPL (Top 100 bootlegs, that's maybe for another thread).
The other problem is that StratMan makes an impossible demand - he'll only give it if it gets released. Sorry, that's unreasonable.[/QUOTE]
You know what, i have decided something, i will NOT give you guys shit! You won't even give me the fucking chance to share something with you, so i will sell it or trade it then, how about that, you can thank GB, YV, & PG and others who don't want to put their pride aside for a moment and let someone share a rarity that may prove them wrong, i really could care less about the disbelief, really i do not care, i know what i have and there are several True collectors here that know i have it, and maybe they will be the only ones who get it? So go ahead everyone do what Greg says you will do, i will give the green light, go ahead start whining and ranting about me. I couldn't care less, in the whole time i have been here (since 00) the only one who has even taken the time to talk serious is JSS. Have a good day, and have fun talking shit. :)[/QUOTE]
Of course, a couple of people politely saying that we have been let down by (at the time) wild promises gives you the opportunity to back down without actually admitting you don't have it.
...would be one way of looking at that response. Read my post again and then re-read your overreaction to it.
You're not doing anything to convince me that you have this footage. If you CAN convince me, I will happily run around half the internet proclaiming the inaccuracy of my preconception, and I'm sure YV & GB would be equally forthcoming is conceding that their lack of faith in you was unfounded.
Until that point...grow up, and quit using this "business trip" to clog up the internet with abuse.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Penetration_Guru wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]YoungStratMan wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Penetration_Guru wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Didn't Sunbury get mentioned a few months back? Someone had allegedly got it from ABC's archive. Then, as Greg says, nothing happens.
Mr Strat, from bitter experience I will join YV & GB in the "I'll believe it when I see it" camp. Too many wild claims unfulfilled, by both random individuals and QPL (Top 100 bootlegs, that's maybe for another thread).
The other problem is that StratMan makes an impossible demand - he'll only give it if it gets released. Sorry, that's unreasonable.[/QUOTE]
You know what, i have decided something, i will NOT give you guys shit! You won't even give me the fucking chance to share something with you, so i will sell it or trade it then, how about that, you can thank GB, YV, & PG and others who don't want to put their pride aside for a moment and let someone share a rarity that may prove them wrong, i really could care less about the disbelief, really i do not care, i know what i have and there are several True collectors here that know i have it, and maybe they will be the only ones who get it? So go ahead everyone do what Greg says you will do, i will give the green light, go ahead start whining and ranting about me. I couldn't care less, in the whole time i have been here (since 00) the only one who has even taken the time to talk serious is JSS. Have a good day, and have fun talking shit. :)[/QUOTE]
Of course, a couple of people politely saying that we have been let down by (at the time) wild promises gives you the opportunity to back down without actually admitting you don't have it.
...would be one way of looking at that response. Read my post again and then re-read your overreaction to it.
You're not doing anything to convince me that you have this footage. If you CAN convince me, I will happily run around half the internet proclaiming the inaccuracy of my preconception, and I'm sure YV & GB would be equally forthcoming is conceding that their lack of faith in you was unfounded.
Until that point...grow up, and quit using this "business trip" to clog up the internet with abuse.[/QUOTE]
I really do not care about YV nor GB, and i don't need to convince you or anyone else, unless it is a question of trade. I have nothing personally against you, i mentioned you out of anger, i appologize. I made the statement out of anger by what you had posted. But i must point out that if you read my posts you would notice that i have been home since yesterday evening.
Mr Strat, from bitter experience I will join YV & GB in the "I'll believe it when I see it" camp. Too many wild claims unfulfilled, by both random individuals and QPL (Top 100 bootlegs, that's maybe for another thread).
The other problem is that StratMan makes an impossible demand - he'll only give it if it gets released. Sorry, that's unreasonable.[/QUOTE]
You know what, i have decided something, i will NOT give you guys shit! You won't even give me the fucking chance to share something with you, so i will sell it or trade it then, how about that, you can thank GB, YV, & PG and others who don't want to put their pride aside for a moment and let someone share a rarity that may prove them wrong, i really could care less about the disbelief, really i do not care, i know what i have and there are several True collectors here that know i have it, and maybe they will be the only ones who get it? So go ahead everyone do what Greg says you will do, i will give the green light, go ahead start whining and ranting about me. I couldn't care less, in the whole time i have been here (since 00) the only one who has even taken the time to talk serious is JSS. Have a good day, and have fun talking shit. :)[/QUOTE]
Of course, a couple of people politely saying that we have been let down by (at the time) wild promises gives you the opportunity to back down without actually admitting you don't have it.
...would be one way of looking at that response. Read my post again and then re-read your overreaction to it.
You're not doing anything to convince me that you have this footage. If you CAN convince me, I will happily run around half the internet proclaiming the inaccuracy of my preconception, and I'm sure YV & GB would be equally forthcoming is conceding that their lack of faith in you was unfounded.
Until that point...grow up, and quit using this "business trip" to clog up the internet with abuse.[/QUOTE]
I really do not care about YV nor GB, and i don't need to convince you or anyone else, unless it is a question of trade. I have nothing personally against you, i mentioned you out of anger, i appologize. I made the statement out of anger by what you had posted. But i must point out that if you read my posts you would notice that i have been home since yesterday evening.
Here's your musician! :-D