[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]John S Stuart wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]YourValentine wrote: [/QUOTENAME]As to John's IBEX tapes... it's... totally out of order to downplay the loss - it does not matter how many tapes were NOT lost. It's also totally irrelevant if John kept a copy or not - fact is that copies were sold on ebay and the tape lost its value through these ebay sales. If your dismissive and sarcastic comments are representative for Queen's attitude towards private collectors who lend recordings to them, then it's obvious that other collectors think twice before lending something to them again.[/QUOTE]
YV: A simple & polite question - which I hope you will answer honestly.
Recently in another thread you enqired about a 'Hangman' acetate. Based on all you have learned so far, if you owned something as rare, would you genuinely loan this to QPL?[/QUOTE]
My very naive question: Why not professionally release such rarities without QP? Could you be sued for releasing it?
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]YoungStratMan wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Penetration_Guru wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]YoungStratMan wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Penetration_Guru wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Didn't Sunbury get mentioned a few months back? Someone had allegedly got it from ABC's archive. Then, as Greg says, nothing happens.
Mr Strat, from bitter experience I will join YV & GB in the "I'll believe it when I see it" camp. Too many wild claims unfulfilled, by both random individuals and QPL (Top 100 bootlegs, that's maybe for another thread).
The other problem is that StratMan makes an impossible demand - he'll only give it if it gets released. Sorry, that's unreasonable.[/QUOTE]
You know what, i have decided something, i will NOT give you guys shit! You won't even give me the fucking chance to share something with you, so i will sell it or trade it then, how about that, you can thank GB, YV, & PG and others who don't want to put their pride aside for a moment and let someone share a rarity that may prove them wrong, i really could care less about the disbelief, really i do not care, i know what i have and there are several True collectors here that know i have it, and maybe they will be the only ones who get it? So go ahead everyone do what Greg says you will do, i will give the green light, go ahead start whining and ranting about me. I couldn't care less, in the whole time i have been here (since 00) the only one who has even taken the time to talk serious is JSS. Have a good day, and have fun talking shit. :)[/QUOTE]
Of course, a couple of people politely saying that we have been let down by (at the time) wild promises gives you the opportunity to back down without actually admitting you don't have it.
...would be one way of looking at that response. Read my post again and then re-read your overreaction to it.
You're not doing anything to convince me that you have this footage. If you CAN convince me, I will happily run around half the internet proclaiming the inaccuracy of my preconception, and I'm sure YV & GB would be equally forthcoming is conceding that their lack of faith in you was unfounded.
Until that point...grow up, and quit using this "business trip" to clog up the internet with abuse.[/QUOTE]
I really do not care about YV nor GB, and i don't need to convince you or anyone else, unless it is a question of trade. I have nothing personally against you, i mentioned you out of anger, i appologize. I made the statement out of anger by what you had posted. But i must point out that if you read my posts you would notice that i have been home since yesterday evening.[/QUOTE]
If you'd read my posts you'd have spotted that your anger was mis-directed. I'm happy to call it quits at that point.
Mr Strat, from bitter experience I will join YV & GB in the "I'll believe it when I see it" camp. Too many wild claims unfulfilled, by both random individuals and QPL (Top 100 bootlegs, that's maybe for another thread).
The other problem is that StratMan makes an impossible demand - he'll only give it if it gets released. Sorry, that's unreasonable.[/QUOTE]
You know what, i have decided something, i will NOT give you guys shit! You won't even give me the fucking chance to share something with you, so i will sell it or trade it then, how about that, you can thank GB, YV, & PG and others who don't want to put their pride aside for a moment and let someone share a rarity that may prove them wrong, i really could care less about the disbelief, really i do not care, i know what i have and there are several True collectors here that know i have it, and maybe they will be the only ones who get it? So go ahead everyone do what Greg says you will do, i will give the green light, go ahead start whining and ranting about me. I couldn't care less, in the whole time i have been here (since 00) the only one who has even taken the time to talk serious is JSS. Have a good day, and have fun talking shit. :)[/QUOTE]
Of course, a couple of people politely saying that we have been let down by (at the time) wild promises gives you the opportunity to back down without actually admitting you don't have it.
...would be one way of looking at that response. Read my post again and then re-read your overreaction to it.
You're not doing anything to convince me that you have this footage. If you CAN convince me, I will happily run around half the internet proclaiming the inaccuracy of my preconception, and I'm sure YV & GB would be equally forthcoming is conceding that their lack of faith in you was unfounded.
Until that point...grow up, and quit using this "business trip" to clog up the internet with abuse.[/QUOTE]
I really do not care about YV nor GB, and i don't need to convince you or anyone else, unless it is a question of trade. I have nothing personally against you, i mentioned you out of anger, i appologize. I made the statement out of anger by what you had posted. But i must point out that if you read my posts you would notice that i have been home since yesterday evening.[/QUOTE]
If you'd read my posts you'd have spotted that your anger was mis-directed. I'm happy to call it quits at that point.
Shall we all shut up for 24 hours in protest at what is going on in the Lebanon? Consideing that the people that are getting hurt are civillians?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]clear wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Shall we all shut up for 24 hours in protest at what is going on in the Lebanon? Consideing that the people that are getting hurt are civillians?[/QUOTE]
If you really want to protest, get your ass on a plane to Lebanon and hold up signs there while the Isralies blow the crap out of you with their rockets. At least then you'll be doing something but stop posting these messages here saying that we should shut up for 24 hours is not gonna do shit.
If you really want to protest, get your ass on a plane to Lebanon and hold up signs there while the Isralies blow the crap out of you with their rockets. At least then you'll be doing something but stop posting these messages here saying that we should shut up for 24 hours is not gonna do shit.
Mr Brooks,
just before Q+PR kicked off there HUGE tour starting in London-Calring Academy-Brixton, i sent an email to someone at QPL, asking what kind of release we could of been expecting from the tour.
I was told, and i posted that email on this site, which said something along the lines of (not exact words)
"this tour will bring a Boxset of higlights. any shows which has been filmed for TV purpose etc will be included in the boxset, including Brixton,possibly some other European dates and one to show the start of the UK tour"
however the release we got was a 1 disc show of Sheffield, which was edited, i.e Under Pressure cut out, and no bonus extras on a second disc like that was promised from someone else.
i would just like to ask if you know anything about the poor release of the tour? or if you could find something out as to why this didnt materialise.
not having a go just a simple question but to me it seems once again QPL did not keep to there promise.
Thank you
Paul
just before Q+PR kicked off there HUGE tour starting in London-Calring Academy-Brixton, i sent an email to someone at QPL, asking what kind of release we could of been expecting from the tour.
I was told, and i posted that email on this site, which said something along the lines of (not exact words)
"this tour will bring a Boxset of higlights. any shows which has been filmed for TV purpose etc will be included in the boxset, including Brixton,possibly some other European dates and one to show the start of the UK tour"
however the release we got was a 1 disc show of Sheffield, which was edited, i.e Under Pressure cut out, and no bonus extras on a second disc like that was promised from someone else.
i would just like to ask if you know anything about the poor release of the tour? or if you could find something out as to why this didnt materialise.
not having a go just a simple question but to me it seems once again QPL did not keep to there promise.
Thank you
Paul
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Norman wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Bas...please explain how you saw Queen support Mott the Hoople in December 1974 when:
a) Queen headlined that tour
b) Mott played their last ever concert in November 74.[/QUOTE]
Right Norman! Caught him in yet another lie....
a) Queen headlined that tour
b) Mott played their last ever concert in November 74.[/QUOTE]
Right Norman! Caught him in yet another lie....
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]YourValentine wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
And as long as they sell millions of Greatest Hits variations they will probably never release the anthology because that would be something like the "final chapter". This conflict cannot be solved and each leaked "gem" will be celebrated by the fans and hated by the band.[/QUOTE]
an anthology ned not be the final chapter tho....the beatles released the 3 anthologies in 95...
this has been followed by ONE and also Let It be Naked, i think some beatles cd's have been re-released as anniversariy editions since 95 also - sgt pepper and the white album appeared as 30th anniversary releases
so there's always opportunity for qpl to mkae more lucre
And as long as they sell millions of Greatest Hits variations they will probably never release the anthology because that would be something like the "final chapter". This conflict cannot be solved and each leaked "gem" will be celebrated by the fans and hated by the band.[/QUOTE]
an anthology ned not be the final chapter tho....the beatles released the 3 anthologies in 95...
this has been followed by ONE and also Let It be Naked, i think some beatles cd's have been re-released as anniversariy editions since 95 also - sgt pepper and the white album appeared as 30th anniversary releases
so there's always opportunity for qpl to mkae more lucre
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]WhatMustHeThink wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Aw, those damn aussies, booing Queen off stage! How dare they.... :-P
ETA: haha, just read about the concert at queenconcerts.com ...well..I hope that wasnt them with the asses.[/QUOTE]
nawww we're not aaaalll like that!!:P... well unless we are drunk, but that doesnt count! :P just kidding!:P
.... Whoa everyone calm down! :D
ETA: haha, just read about the concert at queenconcerts.com ...well..I hope that wasnt them with the asses.[/QUOTE]
nawww we're not aaaalll like that!!:P... well unless we are drunk, but that doesnt count! :P just kidding!:P
.... Whoa everyone calm down! :D
GB can you please email I tried to email you but you cannot from here.
scrap that just found it on this post
Jay, (sorry <<Jay>>), piss off you cynical shit.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Queen Archivist wrote: [/QUOTENAME]STRATMAN.
Rest assured what i share with them will NOT be complete and the best quality, just a teaser video, when they are interested, then we can talk.
THIS IS FAIR ENOUGH. I'D DO THE SAME.
I'VE GOT A HORRIBLE, SYNICAL FEELING THAT EVEN A SAMPLE VIDEO ISN'T GOING TO MATERIALISE, STRATMAN... MUCH LESS AN ORIGINAL ENTIRE CONCERT FOOTAGE. I'M SCEPTICAL, TRUE, BUT I HAVE A 6TH SENSE ON THESE THINGS. BUT YOU MIGHT PROVE ME WRONG - LETS HOPE SO.
IT IS TRUE THAT JSS's TAPE WAS LOST. IT WAS REGRETTABLE, BUT THESE THINGS HAPPEN.
JOHN IS ALWAYS ON ABOUT IT, EVEN LAST NIGHT, AGAIN, ACTUALLY, IN A PRIVATE MOANING EMAIL TO ME. AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY HE MENTIONS THAT, DESPITE ME AND ANOTHER QPL COLLEAGUE APOLOGISING PROFUSELY. WHAT MORE COULD WE DO.
IT GOT LOST - ONE TAPE IN THE 8 YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE, AND BELIEVE ME THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF TAPES IN THE QUEEN ARCHIVE A GOOD DEAL MORE INTERESTING AND EXCITING THAN THE IBEX TAPE THAT JSS LOANED US.
AND.... I HAVE TO SAY... THAT WE OBVIOUSLY ASSUMED JSS HAD PROVIDED US WITH A COPY, NOT HIS ONLY MASTER... AS HE 'SAID' AND TOLD EVERYONE WAS THE CASE.
DO YOU BELIEVE THAT???????????
TELL YOU SOMETHING... I STILL BELIEVE JSS SUPPLIED A COPY. THERE IS NO WAY THAT JSS WOULD HAVE BEEN SILLY ENOUGH TO SEND THE ONLY ONE, AND NOT KEEP A COPY.
IF YOU BELIEVE THAT, THEN YOU ARE INDEED AS GULLIBLE AS I WAS SUGGESTING YESTERDAY - SEE MY THREAD ABOUT THE TWO FACES OF JSS.
[/QUOTE]
THOUSANDS OF TAPES of what, Greg? Your moaning? It seems that there are a lot of blank tapes of nothing but your empty trash talk. Why don't you walk your ass to those imaginary Archives and listen to this tape:
"Is your conscience all right
Does it plague you at night?
Do you feel good feel good?
You talk like a big business tycoon
You’re just a hot air balloon
So no one gives you a damn
You’re just an overgrown schoolboy
Let me tan your hide
A dog with disease
You’re the king of the ’sleaze’
Put your money where your mouth is
Mister know-all"
Guess what band this is??? I bet you don;t have a clue.
Rest assured what i share with them will NOT be complete and the best quality, just a teaser video, when they are interested, then we can talk.
THIS IS FAIR ENOUGH. I'D DO THE SAME.
I'VE GOT A HORRIBLE, SYNICAL FEELING THAT EVEN A SAMPLE VIDEO ISN'T GOING TO MATERIALISE, STRATMAN... MUCH LESS AN ORIGINAL ENTIRE CONCERT FOOTAGE. I'M SCEPTICAL, TRUE, BUT I HAVE A 6TH SENSE ON THESE THINGS. BUT YOU MIGHT PROVE ME WRONG - LETS HOPE SO.
IT IS TRUE THAT JSS's TAPE WAS LOST. IT WAS REGRETTABLE, BUT THESE THINGS HAPPEN.
JOHN IS ALWAYS ON ABOUT IT, EVEN LAST NIGHT, AGAIN, ACTUALLY, IN A PRIVATE MOANING EMAIL TO ME. AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY HE MENTIONS THAT, DESPITE ME AND ANOTHER QPL COLLEAGUE APOLOGISING PROFUSELY. WHAT MORE COULD WE DO.
IT GOT LOST - ONE TAPE IN THE 8 YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE, AND BELIEVE ME THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF TAPES IN THE QUEEN ARCHIVE A GOOD DEAL MORE INTERESTING AND EXCITING THAN THE IBEX TAPE THAT JSS LOANED US.
AND.... I HAVE TO SAY... THAT WE OBVIOUSLY ASSUMED JSS HAD PROVIDED US WITH A COPY, NOT HIS ONLY MASTER... AS HE 'SAID' AND TOLD EVERYONE WAS THE CASE.
DO YOU BELIEVE THAT???????????
TELL YOU SOMETHING... I STILL BELIEVE JSS SUPPLIED A COPY. THERE IS NO WAY THAT JSS WOULD HAVE BEEN SILLY ENOUGH TO SEND THE ONLY ONE, AND NOT KEEP A COPY.
IF YOU BELIEVE THAT, THEN YOU ARE INDEED AS GULLIBLE AS I WAS SUGGESTING YESTERDAY - SEE MY THREAD ABOUT THE TWO FACES OF JSS.
[/QUOTE]
THOUSANDS OF TAPES of what, Greg? Your moaning? It seems that there are a lot of blank tapes of nothing but your empty trash talk. Why don't you walk your ass to those imaginary Archives and listen to this tape:
"Is your conscience all right
Does it plague you at night?
Do you feel good feel good?
You talk like a big business tycoon
You’re just a hot air balloon
So no one gives you a damn
You’re just an overgrown schoolboy
Let me tan your hide
A dog with disease
You’re the king of the ’sleaze’
Put your money where your mouth is
Mister know-all"
Guess what band this is??? I bet you don;t have a clue.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]luthorn wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Queen Archivist wrote: [/QUOTENAME]STRATMAN.
Rest assured what i share with them will NOT be complete and the best quality, just a teaser video, when they are interested, then we can talk.
THIS IS FAIR ENOUGH. I'D DO THE SAME.
I'VE GOT A HORRIBLE, SYNICAL FEELING THAT EVEN A SAMPLE VIDEO ISN'T GOING TO MATERIALISE, STRATMAN... MUCH LESS AN ORIGINAL ENTIRE CONCERT FOOTAGE. I'M SCEPTICAL, TRUE, BUT I HAVE A 6TH SENSE ON THESE THINGS. BUT YOU MIGHT PROVE ME WRONG - LETS HOPE SO.
IT IS TRUE THAT JSS's TAPE WAS LOST. IT WAS REGRETTABLE, BUT THESE THINGS HAPPEN.
JOHN IS ALWAYS ON ABOUT IT, EVEN LAST NIGHT, AGAIN, ACTUALLY, IN A PRIVATE MOANING EMAIL TO ME. AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY HE MENTIONS THAT, DESPITE ME AND ANOTHER QPL COLLEAGUE APOLOGISING PROFUSELY. WHAT MORE COULD WE DO.
IT GOT LOST - ONE TAPE IN THE 8 YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE, AND BELIEVE ME THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF TAPES IN THE QUEEN ARCHIVE A GOOD DEAL MORE INTERESTING AND EXCITING THAN THE IBEX TAPE THAT JSS LOANED US.
AND.... I HAVE TO SAY... THAT WE OBVIOUSLY ASSUMED JSS HAD PROVIDED US WITH A COPY, NOT HIS ONLY MASTER... AS HE 'SAID' AND TOLD EVERYONE WAS THE CASE.
DO YOU BELIEVE THAT???????????
TELL YOU SOMETHING... I STILL BELIEVE JSS SUPPLIED A COPY. THERE IS NO WAY THAT JSS WOULD HAVE BEEN SILLY ENOUGH TO SEND THE ONLY ONE, AND NOT KEEP A COPY.
IF YOU BELIEVE THAT, THEN YOU ARE INDEED AS GULLIBLE AS I WAS SUGGESTING YESTERDAY - SEE MY THREAD ABOUT THE TWO FACES OF JSS.
[/QUOTE]
THOUSANDS OF TAPES of what, Greg? Your moaning? It seems that there are a lot of blank tapes of nothing but your empty trash talk. Why don't you walk your ass to those imaginary Archives and listen to this tape:
"Is your conscience all right
Does it plague you at night?
Do you feel good feel good?
You talk like a big business tycoon
You’re just a hot air balloon
So no one gives you a damn
You’re just an overgrown schoolboy
Let me tan your hide
A dog with disease
You’re the king of the ’sleaze’
Put your money where your mouth is
Mister know-all"
Guess what band this is??? I bet you don;t have a clue.
[/QUOTE]
LOL, BOWS, i like that! :)
Rest assured what i share with them will NOT be complete and the best quality, just a teaser video, when they are interested, then we can talk.
THIS IS FAIR ENOUGH. I'D DO THE SAME.
I'VE GOT A HORRIBLE, SYNICAL FEELING THAT EVEN A SAMPLE VIDEO ISN'T GOING TO MATERIALISE, STRATMAN... MUCH LESS AN ORIGINAL ENTIRE CONCERT FOOTAGE. I'M SCEPTICAL, TRUE, BUT I HAVE A 6TH SENSE ON THESE THINGS. BUT YOU MIGHT PROVE ME WRONG - LETS HOPE SO.
IT IS TRUE THAT JSS's TAPE WAS LOST. IT WAS REGRETTABLE, BUT THESE THINGS HAPPEN.
JOHN IS ALWAYS ON ABOUT IT, EVEN LAST NIGHT, AGAIN, ACTUALLY, IN A PRIVATE MOANING EMAIL TO ME. AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY HE MENTIONS THAT, DESPITE ME AND ANOTHER QPL COLLEAGUE APOLOGISING PROFUSELY. WHAT MORE COULD WE DO.
IT GOT LOST - ONE TAPE IN THE 8 YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE, AND BELIEVE ME THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF TAPES IN THE QUEEN ARCHIVE A GOOD DEAL MORE INTERESTING AND EXCITING THAN THE IBEX TAPE THAT JSS LOANED US.
AND.... I HAVE TO SAY... THAT WE OBVIOUSLY ASSUMED JSS HAD PROVIDED US WITH A COPY, NOT HIS ONLY MASTER... AS HE 'SAID' AND TOLD EVERYONE WAS THE CASE.
DO YOU BELIEVE THAT???????????
TELL YOU SOMETHING... I STILL BELIEVE JSS SUPPLIED A COPY. THERE IS NO WAY THAT JSS WOULD HAVE BEEN SILLY ENOUGH TO SEND THE ONLY ONE, AND NOT KEEP A COPY.
IF YOU BELIEVE THAT, THEN YOU ARE INDEED AS GULLIBLE AS I WAS SUGGESTING YESTERDAY - SEE MY THREAD ABOUT THE TWO FACES OF JSS.
[/QUOTE]
THOUSANDS OF TAPES of what, Greg? Your moaning? It seems that there are a lot of blank tapes of nothing but your empty trash talk. Why don't you walk your ass to those imaginary Archives and listen to this tape:
"Is your conscience all right
Does it plague you at night?
Do you feel good feel good?
You talk like a big business tycoon
You’re just a hot air balloon
So no one gives you a damn
You’re just an overgrown schoolboy
Let me tan your hide
A dog with disease
You’re the king of the ’sleaze’
Put your money where your mouth is
Mister know-all"
Guess what band this is??? I bet you don;t have a clue.
[/QUOTE]
LOL, BOWS, i like that! :)
Yes luthorn I noticed that. On QO there was a thread up a while back where a few of us tried to encourage QP to release some of the footage from the vault for the next DVD release - it was hinted that there was not much left in the vault nor was of it good enough quality or complete to be released on a dvd.
I am rather miffed slightly with the mention that there are thousands of tapes in QP storage under Greg's care on this post. Hmm if there are indeed thousands of tapes don't you think it would be great if QP released some new footage for us to buy instead of the same stuff recycled all the time?
Imagine it if they released new material out there from the vault from the days of Freddie - stuff we have never seen before. I don't understand what is gained by not releasing the footage officially for sale if there is this much footage sitting under Greg and QP finger tips. Brian did mention on his soap box that Roger and he have no say in the Freddie solo footage and it is to do with the estate of Freddie. But surely there must be Queen Footage in that 1000 pile of tapes collection QP has there.
Maybe someone can clear this up for me.
I can give you the link where this matter was responded to on QO if you like. Just confused by this mention of how much footage and the level of quality Greg mentioned on this post.
Isis
I am rather miffed slightly with the mention that there are thousands of tapes in QP storage under Greg's care on this post. Hmm if there are indeed thousands of tapes don't you think it would be great if QP released some new footage for us to buy instead of the same stuff recycled all the time?
Imagine it if they released new material out there from the vault from the days of Freddie - stuff we have never seen before. I don't understand what is gained by not releasing the footage officially for sale if there is this much footage sitting under Greg and QP finger tips. Brian did mention on his soap box that Roger and he have no say in the Freddie solo footage and it is to do with the estate of Freddie. But surely there must be Queen Footage in that 1000 pile of tapes collection QP has there.
Maybe someone can clear this up for me.
I can give you the link where this matter was responded to on QO if you like. Just confused by this mention of how much footage and the level of quality Greg mentioned on this post.
Isis
Excellent point Isis - the amount of times that GB keeps contradicting himself with regard to what is/isn't in the vaults keeps mounting up. Firstly there's 'hardly anything' ,now there's 1,000's of tapes ?!?!?!?
In addition, he seems to think that if something doesn't exist in the official vaults, then it simply cannot exist or be available elsewhere in private collections. The recent Cozy Powell tape of Brian's 'Marie's The Name' illustrates this. It is very possible that this exact mix/cut doesn't exists in the official archive if it was simply a rough mix for Cozy to take home to listen to - if they then developed it further then that versio nmay well have been recorded over.
It has been ably demonstrated elsewhere on this site that rare Beatles recordings have surfaced from private collections that simply do not exist in their extensive official archives.
In addition, he seems to think that if something doesn't exist in the official vaults, then it simply cannot exist or be available elsewhere in private collections. The recent Cozy Powell tape of Brian's 'Marie's The Name' illustrates this. It is very possible that this exact mix/cut doesn't exists in the official archive if it was simply a rough mix for Cozy to take home to listen to - if they then developed it further then that versio nmay well have been recorded over.
It has been ably demonstrated elsewhere on this site that rare Beatles recordings have surfaced from private collections that simply do not exist in their extensive official archives.