Shirley Phelps-Roper. <gag>
At first, I was pissed she was given air time (again). But then I guess people need to see it for themselves. You just can't describe a person like this. Her level of rage, hate and arrogance is incredible.
http://www.break.com/index/crazyfox20.html
From what I understand, there are about 100 'members' of this 'church'. I think they're all related. This woman alone has 8 sons and three daughters. How scary is that?!
They go to soldiers' funerals and scream about the wrath of god and how the slain soldier is going to hell because the military is tolerant of 'fags'. They say America is doomed for her acceptance of gays. They thank god for 9/11 and for AIDS, and... I don't know what else. Aparently, it's all a punishment from a "raging god".
Amazing how 100 people can make so much noise, isn't it?
Here she is with her daughters on the Tyra show.
http://www.break.com/index/crazy_phelps_family_on_tyra.html
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Luckily, there's a biker-gang that has made a habit of keeping this 'church' away from the funerals, by forming a sort of protective cordon around the progression.
I do wish one of those crazy sect-bastards would try and pick a fight with them. They'd rip the cult-fuckers to shreds, and good riddance!
I do wish one of those crazy sect-bastards would try and pick a fight with them. They'd rip the cult-fuckers to shreds, and good riddance!
Agreed. People like her should not be allowed to breed.
Zealots of all types frighten me. Religious zealots, left wing zealots, right wing zealots, and guys from Montana.
Zealots of all types frighten me. Religious zealots, left wing zealots, right wing zealots, and guys from Montana.
I would like to thank the groups of people who have tried to counteract the mentally unstable fellows mentioned above -
There are groups of people who try to make it possible for the families to mourn in peace.
Also, I think my state passed a law against this. Well, not "against" - but prohibiting this within a certain distance of a funeral.
I'm not affiliated with any political party, but I believe this is "right". Yes, there's freedom of speech. But this just sounds like harassing people, with the real possibility of emotional damage (especially to kids).
True, ANYTHING could emotionally damage a person, but in this case, I see the intent to do so.
There are groups of people who try to make it possible for the families to mourn in peace.
Also, I think my state passed a law against this. Well, not "against" - but prohibiting this within a certain distance of a funeral.
I'm not affiliated with any political party, but I believe this is "right". Yes, there's freedom of speech. But this just sounds like harassing people, with the real possibility of emotional damage (especially to kids).
True, ANYTHING could emotionally damage a person, but in this case, I see the intent to do so.
Never before have I heard the word "fag" used so much that I actually felt physically ill.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=red>The Audacity of Charles wrote: [/QUOTENAME] But this just sounds like harassing people, with the real possibility of emotional damage (especially to kids).
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Speaking of kids, check this out - it's a transcript from her interview with Hannity and Colmes regarding the Amish school girls killed just weeks ago -
COLMES: You're giving me what sounds like a bunch of talking points. Why would you cause more pain to this community, the Amish community, which, if so not even involved in so much what is considered modern day and these families who have suffered? Do you have any sense of how much additional pain you would be causing these families by protesting at the funeral of these young girls?
PHELPS-ROPER: There isn't any way to fix that situation for them. It's not going to be any less painful if we are there or aren't there. They did that to themselves. And you say they're not involved.
COLMES: What do you mean they did that to themselves?
PHELPS-ROPER: I mean, they sit over to there and create their own form of righteousness, instead of...
COLMES: Did those girls deserve to be killed?
PHELPS-ROPER: Well, they did get killed, and they did that. Who controls the hearts of men? It was at the hand of an angry God those girls are dead.
COLMES: Did they deserve to die?
PHELPS-ROPER: They did deserve to die.
COLMES: How you can possibly make a statement like that?
PHELPS-ROPER: Because that's exactly what happened, and it happened at the hand of the lord your God.
COLMES: How can you possibly say that — how can you possibly say that young girls who have done nothing wrong, who are innocent, who are just a few years old, who have never sinned, who have never done anything, deserve to die? How could you possibly make a statement like that?
PHELPS-ROPER: You told me that you serve the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob who says that when Adam sinned all sinned. There are no innocent human beings. And the parents...
COLMES: You know, you protest funerals of soldiers. You protest funerals of anybody who seems — dies under any circumstances. Anybody who is not a member of your church is a sinner and is hated by God.
PHELPS-ROPER: Don't go to — anyone who is not — if you don't serve God…
COLMES: Who serves God besides people in your church?
PHELPS-ROPER: Well, you tell me. I don't see anyone on the landscape in America.
COLMES: Nobody except people in your church, which is basically your family. A few hundred members of your family are the only people on earth who serve God, and everybody else deserves to die?
PHELPS-ROPER: You need to get out on these streets and warn your neighbors that your sin is taking him to hell, fulfilling the royal law to love your neighbor as yourself.
SEAN HANNITY, CO-HOST: Shirley, you really are a sick woman. You are a sick.
PHELPS-ROPER: Slight cold but thank you.
HANNITY: Twisted human being. Where is your soul that you come on the air and as young innocent girls are going to die and you're going to — you're going to open up the family's wound and pour salt on it? Where is your heart? Where is your soul? Where's your compassion? Where's your love?
PHELPS-ROPER: Our message is for the living, and that is the only loving thing to do.
HANNITY: What about the living families that lost their daughter?
PHELPS-ROPER: They did that to themselves.
HANNITY: No, because some animal killed them in cold blood. The families didn't do it.
PHELPS-ROPER: Who controls the hearts of men?
HANNITY: Do you sin? Did you ever commit adultery? Did you ever sin?
PHELPS-ROPER: Of course not.
HANNITY: Did you ever lust in your heart? Did you ever get angry? Have you ever sinned, Miss Perfect here?
PHELPS-ROPER: Of course, you know that I have sinned, and that's not the point.
HANNITY: You have. So you're a sinner. When you die, would you deserve to die?
PHELPS-ROPER: Well, of course all of us des
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Speaking of kids, check this out - it's a transcript from her interview with Hannity and Colmes regarding the Amish school girls killed just weeks ago -
COLMES: You're giving me what sounds like a bunch of talking points. Why would you cause more pain to this community, the Amish community, which, if so not even involved in so much what is considered modern day and these families who have suffered? Do you have any sense of how much additional pain you would be causing these families by protesting at the funeral of these young girls?
PHELPS-ROPER: There isn't any way to fix that situation for them. It's not going to be any less painful if we are there or aren't there. They did that to themselves. And you say they're not involved.
COLMES: What do you mean they did that to themselves?
PHELPS-ROPER: I mean, they sit over to there and create their own form of righteousness, instead of...
COLMES: Did those girls deserve to be killed?
PHELPS-ROPER: Well, they did get killed, and they did that. Who controls the hearts of men? It was at the hand of an angry God those girls are dead.
COLMES: Did they deserve to die?
PHELPS-ROPER: They did deserve to die.
COLMES: How you can possibly make a statement like that?
PHELPS-ROPER: Because that's exactly what happened, and it happened at the hand of the lord your God.
COLMES: How can you possibly say that — how can you possibly say that young girls who have done nothing wrong, who are innocent, who are just a few years old, who have never sinned, who have never done anything, deserve to die? How could you possibly make a statement like that?
PHELPS-ROPER: You told me that you serve the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob who says that when Adam sinned all sinned. There are no innocent human beings. And the parents...
COLMES: You know, you protest funerals of soldiers. You protest funerals of anybody who seems — dies under any circumstances. Anybody who is not a member of your church is a sinner and is hated by God.
PHELPS-ROPER: Don't go to — anyone who is not — if you don't serve God…
COLMES: Who serves God besides people in your church?
PHELPS-ROPER: Well, you tell me. I don't see anyone on the landscape in America.
COLMES: Nobody except people in your church, which is basically your family. A few hundred members of your family are the only people on earth who serve God, and everybody else deserves to die?
PHELPS-ROPER: You need to get out on these streets and warn your neighbors that your sin is taking him to hell, fulfilling the royal law to love your neighbor as yourself.
SEAN HANNITY, CO-HOST: Shirley, you really are a sick woman. You are a sick.
PHELPS-ROPER: Slight cold but thank you.
HANNITY: Twisted human being. Where is your soul that you come on the air and as young innocent girls are going to die and you're going to — you're going to open up the family's wound and pour salt on it? Where is your heart? Where is your soul? Where's your compassion? Where's your love?
PHELPS-ROPER: Our message is for the living, and that is the only loving thing to do.
HANNITY: What about the living families that lost their daughter?
PHELPS-ROPER: They did that to themselves.
HANNITY: No, because some animal killed them in cold blood. The families didn't do it.
PHELPS-ROPER: Who controls the hearts of men?
HANNITY: Do you sin? Did you ever commit adultery? Did you ever sin?
PHELPS-ROPER: Of course not.
HANNITY: Did you ever lust in your heart? Did you ever get angry? Have you ever sinned, Miss Perfect here?
PHELPS-ROPER: Of course, you know that I have sinned, and that's not the point.
HANNITY: You have. So you're a sinner. When you die, would you deserve to die?
PHELPS-ROPER: Well, of course all of us des
When I heard that her church wanted to picket the funeral of all those young Amish girls that were brutally murdered, I was filled with so much disgust and anger. They were calling them whores and saying that it was good that they had died because of what they would become. From their perspective, everyone is going to hell except for them. I wonder what God thinks of their hate and wrathful acts towards others?
I think they are all misinformed and are very disturbed.
I think they are all misinformed and are very disturbed.
They need to just round up these people and cart them off.
Knowing that's REAL and not just a joke script is unsettling.
If there is a God, I hope he wouldn't want his "people" to get all self-righteous and pissity. They could go out and use their energy and copious free-time to do something nice for the world.
Like plant flowers, or clean filth off the streets.
If there is a God, I hope he wouldn't want his "people" to get all self-righteous and pissity. They could go out and use their energy and copious free-time to do something nice for the world.
Like plant flowers, or clean filth off the streets.
My God... what with the links, and that script regarding the Amish girls; that's just...
I feel sorry for her children though. They've been brought up by this madwoman to hate gays and all who support homosexual relationships. They couldn't possibly get such skewed ideas anywhere else. What is she doing poisoning their minds like that? Does she geniunely believe what she is preaching.
I just hope that when she does die she gets whats coming to her by her standards,(ie God kicks her out of that Golden Gate and down to hell. And with any luck, Freddie will be looking down on her and sniggering)
I feel sorry for her children though. They've been brought up by this madwoman to hate gays and all who support homosexual relationships. They couldn't possibly get such skewed ideas anywhere else. What is she doing poisoning their minds like that? Does she geniunely believe what she is preaching.
I just hope that when she does die she gets whats coming to her by her standards,(ie God kicks her out of that Golden Gate and down to hell. And with any luck, Freddie will be looking down on her and sniggering)
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color =BrianJM> RollingBowieQueen wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I just hope that when she does die she gets whats coming to her by her standards,(ie God kicks her out of that Golden Gate and down to hell. And with any luck, Freddie will be looking down on her and sniggering)[/QUOTE]
To be honest, though I'm mimbly-wimbly on the idea of "God" - I would hope that he would forgive this woman, too. From what I've heard about this "Hell" place, no one deserves to go there and suffer for eternity.
To be honest, though I'm mimbly-wimbly on the idea of "God" - I would hope that he would forgive this woman, too. From what I've heard about this "Hell" place, no one deserves to go there and suffer for eternity.
I really feel for these peoples children, who, by no fauly of their own, are being raised by these animals.
All it would take is a few simple things to rid us of this problem.
1) A Noose
2) A Tree....
All it would take is a few simple things to rid us of this problem.
1) A Noose
2) A Tree....
Apparently, many of the Phelps family members are lawyers. Despite how despicable their behavior is, they know how to keep it legal. Unless some laws are changed, they'll keep doing what they're doing and get away with it.
Just recently, there was a funeral for the first Native American soldier killed in Iraq. The tribe (their word, not mine) ruled against allowing these people on reservation land. The sickos still picketed or whatever they call it (I call it harass) but they had to do it from public land that was much further from their target than they wanted.
Point is, they stray very close to crossing the line but never do so, thus keeping them just to the right of legal.
Just recently, there was a funeral for the first Native American soldier killed in Iraq. The tribe (their word, not mine) ruled against allowing these people on reservation land. The sickos still picketed or whatever they call it (I call it harass) but they had to do it from public land that was much further from their target than they wanted.
Point is, they stray very close to crossing the line but never do so, thus keeping them just to the right of legal.
I just don't understand these homophobes. But I do think Tyra and the Fox people are going about her in the wrong way. If you tell someone like her that she's pathetic, evil, mean, nasty piece of work etc. then they'll get a skewed kind of satisfaction out of saying 'Yes, see? I told you, we are being stifled, cut off. You're all so short-sighted that you can't see what's right in front of you...' and so on. If I had them on my show I'd ask them why, why they thought gay people were sinners, and if they answered that it was God's hatred not their's, or something along those lines, I'd ask them what makes them think God hates homosexual people, and where does it say in the scriptures that all men who have sex with other men, and women with women, will go to hell.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color =BrianJM> RollingBowieQueen wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I just don't understand these homophobes. But I do think Tyra and the Fox people are going about her in the wrong way. If you tell someone like her that she's pathetic, evil, mean, nasty piece of work etc. then they'll get a skewed kind of satisfaction out of saying 'Yes, see? I told you, we are being stifled, cut off. You're all so short-sighted that you can't see what's right in front of you...' and so on. [/QUOTE]
I felt the same way about the interviews, but I understand the exasperation that led to name-calling. I think it takes a very calm person to deal with her and I do think it would be worth seeing. She rages on and on, and thrives on the aggravation of others. If she's handled differently she might respond differently... but then, what's the point? It's not like it's going to change her beliefs or her actions.
The whole thing is disgusting.
Can you imagine her pitted against Ann Coulter? Ha! What a hoot that would be.
I felt the same way about the interviews, but I understand the exasperation that led to name-calling. I think it takes a very calm person to deal with her and I do think it would be worth seeing. She rages on and on, and thrives on the aggravation of others. If she's handled differently she might respond differently... but then, what's the point? It's not like it's going to change her beliefs or her actions.
The whole thing is disgusting.
Can you imagine her pitted against Ann Coulter? Ha! What a hoot that would be.