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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Mr.Jingles wrote: [/QUOTENAME]...I'd still do Tyra[/QUOTE]
^ **rolls eyes at Dan**
Typical guy
^ **rolls eyes at Dan**
Typical guy
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]CMU HistoryGirl wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Mr.Jingles wrote: [/QUOTENAME]...I'd still do Tyra[/QUOTE]
^ **rolls eyes at Dan**
Typical guy [/QUOTE]
It's funny, there's the Tyra clip with four women arguing about god, sin, anger and righteousness... and then there's Dan, sinfully lusting over the "fag-enabler" in the group.
Sheesh, Dan. Didn't you HEAR their message?! Don't you get it? Your thoughts have now pissed off an already raging mad god!!! Heavens above, I wonder what kind of pestilence will be unleashed upon us now. America is doomed, and all because of Mr. Jingles. Nice going...
^ **rolls eyes at Dan**
Typical guy [/QUOTE]
It's funny, there's the Tyra clip with four women arguing about god, sin, anger and righteousness... and then there's Dan, sinfully lusting over the "fag-enabler" in the group.
Sheesh, Dan. Didn't you HEAR their message?! Don't you get it? Your thoughts have now pissed off an already raging mad god!!! Heavens above, I wonder what kind of pestilence will be unleashed upon us now. America is doomed, and all because of Mr. Jingles. Nice going...
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]CMU HistoryGirl wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]YourValentine wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I have a question: why is it legal in the USA to disturb a funeral? Aren't there any laws to regulate public demonstrations? In Germany you need to notify the authorities if you hold a public demonstration and if the peace is going to be disturbed you won't get permission to do this demonstration. You can go to court and ask the court to overrule the city council decision (which happens very often when Nazi -like organisations want to do a demonstration)but I cannot imagine that a court would allow a religious or allegedly religious group to spread their hate messages near a funeral.[/QUOTE]
Hey Barb,
interesting question actually. In the US, it tends to go that we don't get laws passed against things until they happen and we realize a law is needed....we don't tend to think about the what if's too much. So I don't think anyone ever thought that anyone would disturb a funeral and that laws should be passed to ban it, until this stuff started happening.
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May I chime in?
Excellent answer CMU. Yes, in America every citizen is entitled to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. That's an actual written law.
To assume that this only happens in the US, sounds a bit jaded, Barb. You asked why it was legal? It's not. For something to be "legal" doesn't it have to be approved by someone? There's no law in America that says "You may go to funerals and piss on graves".
Hey Barb,
interesting question actually. In the US, it tends to go that we don't get laws passed against things until they happen and we realize a law is needed....we don't tend to think about the what if's too much. So I don't think anyone ever thought that anyone would disturb a funeral and that laws should be passed to ban it, until this stuff started happening.
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May I chime in?
Excellent answer CMU. Yes, in America every citizen is entitled to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. That's an actual written law.
To assume that this only happens in the US, sounds a bit jaded, Barb. You asked why it was legal? It's not. For something to be "legal" doesn't it have to be approved by someone? There's no law in America that says "You may go to funerals and piss on graves".
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]¼Microwave wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]CMU HistoryGirl wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]YourValentine wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I have a question: why is it legal in the USA to disturb a funeral? Aren't there any laws to regulate public demonstrations? In Germany you need to notify the authorities if you hold a public demonstration and if the peace is going to be disturbed you won't get permission to do this demonstration. You can go to court and ask the court to overrule the city council decision (which happens very often when Nazi -like organisations want to do a demonstration)but I cannot imagine that a court would allow a religious or allegedly religious group to spread their hate messages near a funeral.[/QUOTE]
Hey Barb,
interesting question actually. In the US, it tends to go that we don't get laws passed against things until they happen and we realize a law is needed....we don't tend to think about the what if's too much. So I don't think anyone ever thought that anyone would disturb a funeral and that laws should be passed to ban it, until this stuff started happening.
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May I chime in?
Excellent answer CMU. Yes, in America every citizen is entitled to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. That's an actual written law.
To assume that this only happens in the US, sounds a bit jaded, Barb. You asked why it was legal? It's not. For something to be "legal" doesn't it have to be approved by someone? There's no law in America that says "You may go to funerals and piss on graves".
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Thank you, Microwave. Although that "Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness thing" is in the Constitution, which isn't actually a law. It's the document that forms the basis that our laws are anchored on, but it's not actually law in and of itself. Kind of a moot point though.
Hey Barb,
interesting question actually. In the US, it tends to go that we don't get laws passed against things until they happen and we realize a law is needed....we don't tend to think about the what if's too much. So I don't think anyone ever thought that anyone would disturb a funeral and that laws should be passed to ban it, until this stuff started happening.
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May I chime in?
Excellent answer CMU. Yes, in America every citizen is entitled to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. That's an actual written law.
To assume that this only happens in the US, sounds a bit jaded, Barb. You asked why it was legal? It's not. For something to be "legal" doesn't it have to be approved by someone? There's no law in America that says "You may go to funerals and piss on graves".
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Thank you, Microwave. Although that "Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness thing" is in the Constitution, which isn't actually a law. It's the document that forms the basis that our laws are anchored on, but it's not actually law in and of itself. Kind of a moot point though.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]magicalfreddiemercury wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]CMU HistoryGirl wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Mr.Jingles wrote: [/QUOTENAME]...I'd still do Tyra[/QUOTE]
^ **rolls eyes at Dan**
Typical guy [/QUOTE]
It's funny, there's the Tyra clip with four women arguing about god, sin, anger and righteousness... and then there's Dan, sinfully lusting over the "fag-enabler" in the group.
Sheesh, Dan. Didn't you HEAR their message?! Don't you get it? Your thoughts have now pissed off an already raging mad god!!! Heavens above, I wonder what kind of pestilence will be unleashed upon us now. America is doomed, and all because of Mr. Jingles. Nice going...
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**laughes** It's ok MagicalFreddieMercury...this is just Dan. We have to remember that he's a member of the male species, and therefore thinks with the brain that isn't in his head most of the time. :-)
Besides, according to this group we were already doomed to go to hell anyway, so no harm no foul. It's gunna be a hell of a party down there though...pun intended
^ **rolls eyes at Dan**
Typical guy [/QUOTE]
It's funny, there's the Tyra clip with four women arguing about god, sin, anger and righteousness... and then there's Dan, sinfully lusting over the "fag-enabler" in the group.
Sheesh, Dan. Didn't you HEAR their message?! Don't you get it? Your thoughts have now pissed off an already raging mad god!!! Heavens above, I wonder what kind of pestilence will be unleashed upon us now. America is doomed, and all because of Mr. Jingles. Nice going...
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**laughes** It's ok MagicalFreddieMercury...this is just Dan. We have to remember that he's a member of the male species, and therefore thinks with the brain that isn't in his head most of the time. :-)
Besides, according to this group we were already doomed to go to hell anyway, so no harm no foul. It's gunna be a hell of a party down there though...pun intended
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]CMU HistoryGirl wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Although that "Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness thing" is in the Constitution, which isn't actually a law. It's the document that forms the basis that our laws are anchored on, but it's not actually law in and of itself. Kind of a moot point though.[/QUOTE]
Well, actually the Constitution is the "supreme law of the land". So I think it is actually a law, the first one. No other country has that. A document that actually guarantees the rights of the people and not the government.
Well, actually the Constitution is the "supreme law of the land". So I think it is actually a law, the first one. No other country has that. A document that actually guarantees the rights of the people and not the government.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]¼Microwave wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]CMU HistoryGirl wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Although that "Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness thing" is in the Constitution, which isn't actually a law. It's the document that forms the basis that our laws are anchored on, but it's not actually law in and of itself. Kind of a moot point though.[/QUOTE]
Well, actually the Constitution is the "supreme law of the land". So I think it is actually a law, the first one. No other country has that. A document that actually guarantees the rights of the people and not the government.
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Guys...no. Hold on, I'll be right back to edit this.
Edit:
A) "Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" is a phrase in the United Stated Declaration of Independence - NOT the US Constitution.
B) The United States Constitution itself guarantees no rights, but rather contains much in the way of governmental structure and procedure. Rights are contained in the Bill of Rights, and other subsequent Amendments.
C) The Constitution is not _a_ law; it is part of _the_ law. Law is derived from four sources: Constitutional Law, which derives from Federal and State Constitutions; Administrative Law, which derives from Executive governmental agencies; Statutory Law, which derives from Federal and State Legislatures; Common Law, which derives from the Judicial Courts. All these constitute law, whereas the United States Constitution would fall under Constitutional Law.
Well, actually the Constitution is the "supreme law of the land". So I think it is actually a law, the first one. No other country has that. A document that actually guarantees the rights of the people and not the government.
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Guys...no. Hold on, I'll be right back to edit this.
Edit:
A) "Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" is a phrase in the United Stated Declaration of Independence - NOT the US Constitution.
B) The United States Constitution itself guarantees no rights, but rather contains much in the way of governmental structure and procedure. Rights are contained in the Bill of Rights, and other subsequent Amendments.
C) The Constitution is not _a_ law; it is part of _the_ law. Law is derived from four sources: Constitutional Law, which derives from Federal and State Constitutions; Administrative Law, which derives from Executive governmental agencies; Statutory Law, which derives from Federal and State Legislatures; Common Law, which derives from the Judicial Courts. All these constitute law, whereas the United States Constitution would fall under Constitutional Law.
Wow. Music Man, you know your stuff.
Ok, Constitutional law then. It still came first, and sets the groundwork for laws.
Amendments are not the laws, though, they are merely changes to the original ideas, another right our "Constitutes" gave us. As many as we want. The Bill of Rights is just the first ten.
Example: If you try to run for President for a third term, you won't go to jail.
Example: If you skin a cat then tie him to your car and drive thru a school, you will probably go to jail. Unless you live in North Dakota, where that is, conviently, legal.
Ok, Constitutional law then. It still came first, and sets the groundwork for laws.
Amendments are not the laws, though, they are merely changes to the original ideas, another right our "Constitutes" gave us. As many as we want. The Bill of Rights is just the first ten.
Example: If you try to run for President for a third term, you won't go to jail.
Example: If you skin a cat then tie him to your car and drive thru a school, you will probably go to jail. Unless you live in North Dakota, where that is, conviently, legal.
I may be misunderstanding what was said...
But for something to be legal, it does not have to be approved.
After all, there is nothing that says "you may wear silly little unitards with sparkles on them", "you may buy bananas at the local grocery store", or "you may stick a naked fairy sticker on the bumper of your car" - but, as far as I can tell, they are legal (though that fairy sticker was a bit indecent...).
ALSO - I would like to be clear that I believe it should be illegal to do this at funerals, abusing the situation of the family for attention. I'm just re-stating because although I support their right to be "hateful", I do not support their tactics. I'm not even asking them to be nice, I don't care, I just believe abusing grieving families in such a way should not be legal.
But for something to be legal, it does not have to be approved.
After all, there is nothing that says "you may wear silly little unitards with sparkles on them", "you may buy bananas at the local grocery store", or "you may stick a naked fairy sticker on the bumper of your car" - but, as far as I can tell, they are legal (though that fairy sticker was a bit indecent...).
ALSO - I would like to be clear that I believe it should be illegal to do this at funerals, abusing the situation of the family for attention. I'm just re-stating because although I support their right to be "hateful", I do not support their tactics. I'm not even asking them to be nice, I don't care, I just believe abusing grieving families in such a way should not be legal.
So sticking this hot poker up my own arse is legal?
No, Charles, it's just not illegal. "Legal" attaches a written or verbal decision of some kind. Hence the term, Legal.
We don't write laws in the US telling what is "Legal", we write laws about what is "Illegal". Otherwise we'd have a whole lot of laws.
I'm not saying it works. In Georgia, Sodomy is Illegal. (Sorry, Young Strat Man) And if you commit Sodomy, you will be locked up with a man who will probably Sodomize you. (Lucky for you, YSM)
No, Charles, it's just not illegal. "Legal" attaches a written or verbal decision of some kind. Hence the term, Legal.
We don't write laws in the US telling what is "Legal", we write laws about what is "Illegal". Otherwise we'd have a whole lot of laws.
I'm not saying it works. In Georgia, Sodomy is Illegal. (Sorry, Young Strat Man) And if you commit Sodomy, you will be locked up with a man who will probably Sodomize you. (Lucky for you, YSM)
I'm done with my post. Learn and be merry.
excellent job! I am merry, but I'm no Mary.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]¼Microwave wrote: [/QUOTENAME]No other country has that. A document that actually guarantees the rights of the people and not the government.[/QUOTE]
Also, this is just plain wrong. Sorry!
Also, this is just plain wrong. Sorry!
Is there a word for something that's not legal or illegal ?
I'm not arguing, I'm just curious - since I have no idea.
I was thinking along the lines of "innocent until proven guilty" as in, "legal until made illegal".
But what do you call something that is neither ? Is there a word for it, or is it just "grey area" ?
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I would also like to say that it has made my little heart warm and fuzzy to have talking about things like this, and not just watching certain threads I personally find "hateful" being bumped over and over again.
I'm not arguing, I'm just curious - since I have no idea.
I was thinking along the lines of "innocent until proven guilty" as in, "legal until made illegal".
But what do you call something that is neither ? Is there a word for it, or is it just "grey area" ?
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I would also like to say that it has made my little heart warm and fuzzy to have talking about things like this, and not just watching certain threads I personally find "hateful" being bumped over and over again.