[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=green>Bren<font color=orange>ski wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]...ASSDUDE.... wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]write your letters in the sand wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Treasure Moment wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Queen and specially Freddie cant write bad music[/QUOTE]
Um, have you listened to "Delilah"?[/QUOTE]
have you been on your death bed in pain knowing you have months to live trying to bust out tunes on borrowed time???[/QUOTE]
doesn't make it a GOOD SONG though. you don't say "oh well that performance by Man Utd was excellent" if they just lost 4-0[/QUOTE]
nothing wrong with delilah at all, sure its not a serious song and i dont listen to it often if at all but still not a bad song, dont forget how incredibly awesome stuff that is on the very same album, Queens best album is innuendo.
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That's right Treasure Moment.
And the Jingle Bells by the singing dogs is a good song, too!
Interesting how you think Innuendo is their best album... the one with the least amount of input from Freddie.
And the Jingle Bells by the singing dogs is a good song, too!
Interesting how you think Innuendo is their best album... the one with the least amount of input from Freddie.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]mooghead wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
Its completely subjective. I don't like NOTW and hate Jazz, it sounds like it was recorded live, awful production and too rushed (although contains Freddie's best song so....)[/QUOTE]
I like NotW, but I agree that Jazz sounds really horrible.
Its completely subjective. I don't like NOTW and hate Jazz, it sounds like it was recorded live, awful production and too rushed (although contains Freddie's best song so....)[/QUOTE]
I like NotW, but I agree that Jazz sounds really horrible.
I don't believe Mack to be a bad producer at all. The sound Mack produced was of the time. And rightfully so. It's quite clear that Queen favored him over any other producer at the time since Freddie stated he didn't want to work with anybody else. That being said, I happen to prefer the Queen sound in the seventies, but that might be mostly in part because I preferred the more experimental side of Queen. In my opinion, the worst album in terms of quality has to be Jazz. The sound of the drums are awful.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=FF0033 face=symbol>Freddie wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I don't believe Mack to be a bad producer at all. The sound Mack produced was of the time.[/QUOTE]
He was probably the right producer for that time, agree. But the production values of that time have dated a lot more than those from the 70's or, for that instance, those from the 60's. In hindsight Mack's production sounds horrible, but at the time it was extremely modern, I guess. But, as often happens when you try to be modern, it's hard to stand the test of time.
He was probably the right producer for that time, agree. But the production values of that time have dated a lot more than those from the 70's or, for that instance, those from the 60's. In hindsight Mack's production sounds horrible, but at the time it was extremely modern, I guess. But, as often happens when you try to be modern, it's hard to stand the test of time.
I don't think the 70's formula was tired until Jazz. Not for me, anyway.
Mack = meh, I guess they needed something different but it could've been anyone. I guess they needed someone around to go "NO" to the band - I'm under the impression it was Mack who insisted Brian use a Tele on CLTCL, but correct me if I'm wrong. I might be mixing up my anecdotes here, I'm sure Mack insisted he do something against his own instincts.
If there's bad production on any Queen album, for me it's Innuendo. Hitman is the absolute worst sounding track on the album, which is a pity because the song itself could've been kick-ass. The sound is just... blurrrgh. I always have to tinker with the EQ in iTunes to make it tolerable and it still doesn't help.
Mack = meh, I guess they needed something different but it could've been anyone. I guess they needed someone around to go "NO" to the band - I'm under the impression it was Mack who insisted Brian use a Tele on CLTCL, but correct me if I'm wrong. I might be mixing up my anecdotes here, I'm sure Mack insisted he do something against his own instincts.
If there's bad production on any Queen album, for me it's Innuendo. Hitman is the absolute worst sounding track on the album, which is a pity because the song itself could've been kick-ass. The sound is just... blurrrgh. I always have to tinker with the EQ in iTunes to make it tolerable and it still doesn't help.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Zebonka12 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
If there's bad production on any Queen album, for me it's Innuendo. Hitman is the absolute worst sounding track on the album...[/QUOTE]
Anyone actually listen to 'White Man' on the 'Day At The Races' LP/ CD?
How anyone can hear anything beyond the tape hiss is beyond me.
If there's bad production on any Queen album, for me it's Innuendo. Hitman is the absolute worst sounding track on the album...[/QUOTE]
Anyone actually listen to 'White Man' on the 'Day At The Races' LP/ CD?
How anyone can hear anything beyond the tape hiss is beyond me.
Mack is a genious. He's going to work on Britney Spears upcoming album.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Micrówave wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]...ASSDUDE.... wrote: [/QUOTENAME]How did NOTW get them in a rut?????????[/QUOTE]
Because it sounded like the last album. Kinda like Jazz did, too. Not that they weren't good albums, but those last four were starting to sound alike.
Mack, as John Stuart said, brought this band thru a rather strange music change in the late 70s/early 80s. And with flying colors. Not only did their old fans tag along, they reached a new generation. Not too many 70s bands were able to do that.
I mean, what did Roy Thomas Baker do that was so groundbreaking after Bohemian Rhapsody? And wasn't a lot of that Bohemian buzz due in part to Freddie?
Mack's production earned Queen more fans than they had ever had before, brought them into the world of film scoring, and had success with other artists in addition to Queen. So, that sucks? I don't think so.[/QUOTE]
I see what your saying and agree with just about all if it, but i still dont see how NOTW put them in a rut. This was right at the time when Punk rock exploded... Most bands just died in the ass... Queen how ever......... didnt suffer from that. they had NOTW and that had steet cred. That album had balls. It had punk on there, yet it wasnt a band "trying hard" to do punk, it was natural for them, whihc what i am trying to say is that were not sheep,followers and that album brought the threw tough times in which i dont see how a rut could do that.
Because it sounded like the last album. Kinda like Jazz did, too. Not that they weren't good albums, but those last four were starting to sound alike.
Mack, as John Stuart said, brought this band thru a rather strange music change in the late 70s/early 80s. And with flying colors. Not only did their old fans tag along, they reached a new generation. Not too many 70s bands were able to do that.
I mean, what did Roy Thomas Baker do that was so groundbreaking after Bohemian Rhapsody? And wasn't a lot of that Bohemian buzz due in part to Freddie?
Mack's production earned Queen more fans than they had ever had before, brought them into the world of film scoring, and had success with other artists in addition to Queen. So, that sucks? I don't think so.[/QUOTE]
I see what your saying and agree with just about all if it, but i still dont see how NOTW put them in a rut. This was right at the time when Punk rock exploded... Most bands just died in the ass... Queen how ever......... didnt suffer from that. they had NOTW and that had steet cred. That album had balls. It had punk on there, yet it wasnt a band "trying hard" to do punk, it was natural for them, whihc what i am trying to say is that were not sheep,followers and that album brought the threw tough times in which i dont see how a rut could do that.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=green>Bren<font color=orange>ski wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]...ASSDUDE.... wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]write your letters in the sand wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Treasure Moment wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Queen and specially Freddie cant write bad music[/QUOTE]
Um, have you listened to "Delilah"?[/QUOTE]
have you been on your death bed in pain knowing you have months to live trying to bust out tunes on borrowed time???[/QUOTE]
doesn't make it a GOOD SONG though. you don't say "oh well that performance by Man Utd was excellent" if they just lost 4-0[/QUOTE]
thats a totally different argument and you know it. Im talking about looking at somethign for what its worth..
if you had 300 dollors each week to feed and cloth your family, then all of sudden you loose yout job and now live of 50, how ever, your feeding them, clothing, paying bill, id say your doin pretty well for 50 bucks... It aint like have 300, but you doing well..
so the point is, Freddie was probably in a fucking wheelchair sipping vodka to get of his ass to sing a fucking song so you can turn around and say its shit.... go back to marys house and whipe her door clean, i left some shit on there for you to wash of.
Um, have you listened to "Delilah"?[/QUOTE]
have you been on your death bed in pain knowing you have months to live trying to bust out tunes on borrowed time???[/QUOTE]
doesn't make it a GOOD SONG though. you don't say "oh well that performance by Man Utd was excellent" if they just lost 4-0[/QUOTE]
thats a totally different argument and you know it. Im talking about looking at somethign for what its worth..
if you had 300 dollors each week to feed and cloth your family, then all of sudden you loose yout job and now live of 50, how ever, your feeding them, clothing, paying bill, id say your doin pretty well for 50 bucks... It aint like have 300, but you doing well..
so the point is, Freddie was probably in a fucking wheelchair sipping vodka to get of his ass to sing a fucking song so you can turn around and say its shit.... go back to marys house and whipe her door clean, i left some shit on there for you to wash of.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]...ASSDUDE.... wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]write your letters in the sand wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Treasure Moment wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Queen and specially Freddie cant write bad music[/QUOTE]
Um, have you listened to "Delilah"?[/QUOTE]
have you been on your death bed in pain knowing you have months to live trying to bust out tunes on borrowed time???[/QUOTE]
So you agree that "Delilah" isn't a great song then.
Um, have you listened to "Delilah"?[/QUOTE]
have you been on your death bed in pain knowing you have months to live trying to bust out tunes on borrowed time???[/QUOTE]
So you agree that "Delilah" isn't a great song then.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Crazy LittleThing wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]...ASSDUDE.... wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]write your letters in the sand wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Treasure Moment wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Queen and specially Freddie cant write bad music[/QUOTE]
Um, have you listened to "Delilah"?[/QUOTE]
have you been on your death bed in pain knowing you have months to live trying to bust out tunes on borrowed time???[/QUOTE]
So you agree that "Delilah" isn't a great song then.[/QUOTE]
what deffines a great song???
I like the song for what it is and whats its worth... Its not somethign to write home about, but i also dont think that its shit, and in retrospect, the whole album speaks of the fact that this is it... its good bye.., so its nice to know that when somes ones months away from deathm they still have a wicked sense of humour to create out-landish songs
Um, have you listened to "Delilah"?[/QUOTE]
have you been on your death bed in pain knowing you have months to live trying to bust out tunes on borrowed time???[/QUOTE]
So you agree that "Delilah" isn't a great song then.[/QUOTE]
what deffines a great song???
I like the song for what it is and whats its worth... Its not somethign to write home about, but i also dont think that its shit, and in retrospect, the whole album speaks of the fact that this is it... its good bye.., so its nice to know that when somes ones months away from deathm they still have a wicked sense of humour to create out-landish songs
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Zebonka12 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
If there's bad production on any Queen album, for me it's Innuendo. Hitman is the absolute worst sounding track on the album, which is a pity because the song itself could've been kick-ass. The sound is just... blurrrgh. I always have to tinker with the EQ in iTunes to make it tolerable and it still doesn't help.[/QUOTE]
It's amazing how taste differs. I always thought Innuendo sounded crystal clear and absolutely perfect.
If there's bad production on any Queen album, for me it's Innuendo. Hitman is the absolute worst sounding track on the album, which is a pity because the song itself could've been kick-ass. The sound is just... blurrrgh. I always have to tinker with the EQ in iTunes to make it tolerable and it still doesn't help.[/QUOTE]
It's amazing how taste differs. I always thought Innuendo sounded crystal clear and absolutely perfect.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]...ASSDUDE... wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Crazy LittleThing wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]...ASSDUDE.... wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]write your letters in the sand wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Treasure Moment wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Queen and specially Freddie cant write bad music[/QUOTE]
Um, have you listened to "Delilah"?[/QUOTE]
have you been on your death bed in pain knowing you have months to live trying to bust out tunes on borrowed time???[/QUOTE]
So you agree that "Delilah" isn't a great song then.[/QUOTE]
what deffines a great song???
I like the song for what it is and whats its worth... Its not somethign to write home about, but i also dont think that its shit, and in retrospect, the whole album speaks of the fact that this is it... its good bye.., so its nice to know that when somes ones months away from deathm they still have a wicked sense of humour to create out-landish songs[/QUOTE]
Fair enough. I'd define "Bo Rhap" as a great song. I've always assumed "Delilah" was an indulgence that the other guys let him put on the album.
Um, have you listened to "Delilah"?[/QUOTE]
have you been on your death bed in pain knowing you have months to live trying to bust out tunes on borrowed time???[/QUOTE]
So you agree that "Delilah" isn't a great song then.[/QUOTE]
what deffines a great song???
I like the song for what it is and whats its worth... Its not somethign to write home about, but i also dont think that its shit, and in retrospect, the whole album speaks of the fact that this is it... its good bye.., so its nice to know that when somes ones months away from deathm they still have a wicked sense of humour to create out-landish songs[/QUOTE]
Fair enough. I'd define "Bo Rhap" as a great song. I've always assumed "Delilah" was an indulgence that the other guys let him put on the album.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=FF0033 face=symbol>Freddie wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Zebonka12 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
If there's bad production on any Queen album, for me it's Innuendo. Hitman is the absolute worst sounding track on the album, which is a pity because the song itself could've been kick-ass. The sound is just... blurrrgh. I always have to tinker with the EQ in iTunes to make it tolerable and it still doesn't help.[/QUOTE]
It's amazing how taste differs. I always thought Innuendo sounded crystal clear and absolutely perfect.[/QUOTE]
Hmmm...
I didn't like the drum sound much on most of the songs, and as I said, Hitman suffers. It sounds like it's coming out of a cheap radio.
It's funny you mention taste, because as far as the songs themselves go, Innuendo is probably my second favourite Queen album. I'm only saying - the production was a turn-off for me.
If there's bad production on any Queen album, for me it's Innuendo. Hitman is the absolute worst sounding track on the album, which is a pity because the song itself could've been kick-ass. The sound is just... blurrrgh. I always have to tinker with the EQ in iTunes to make it tolerable and it still doesn't help.[/QUOTE]
It's amazing how taste differs. I always thought Innuendo sounded crystal clear and absolutely perfect.[/QUOTE]
Hmmm...
I didn't like the drum sound much on most of the songs, and as I said, Hitman suffers. It sounds like it's coming out of a cheap radio.
It's funny you mention taste, because as far as the songs themselves go, Innuendo is probably my second favourite Queen album. I'm only saying - the production was a turn-off for me.