Of course it's my opinion. Did I [b]EVER [/b]say it's not my opinion?
And yes, I[b]M[/b]O, it was a waste of money and time to book those studios, use those instruments and employ those engineers to come up with that. This obsession of yours to follow my messages and attack me is pathetic to say the least.
Wiley · Member since
Oh, that quote is like the Holly Grail of quotes for me and it made my day, hehe :)
I love Hot Space. It's my guilty pleasure, I guess. I know it's not a work of genius and a couple of songs are crap but there is just something about it that sticks in your head. Not a patch on Thrilller, though, but still it's a very fun album to listen to.
My favorite songs in it are Under Pressure, Staying Power, Dancer and Las Palabras de Amor. Put Out the Fire used to by one of the first Queen songs I called "a favorite of mine" but now I don't love it that much. Body Language grew on me after a friend of mine claimed he loved it.
Not every day you tell a friend you like Queen and he says "Oh man, Hot Space is GREAT! The bass line on Body Language is wicked!". I bet that's a first for any Queen fan, haha :)
Martin Packer · Member since
And the songs I love on Hot Space are Back Chat, Calling All Girls and Action This Day. And I DO like Body Language, Dancer and Los Palabros De Amor. Strangely I'm not so keen on Under Pressure. Probably because it has Bowie on it. :-)
Rick · Member since
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[b]Sebastian wrote: [/b]
Of course it's my opinion. Did I [b]EVER [/b]say it's not my opinion?
And yes, I[b]M[/b]O, it was a waste of money and time to book those studios, use those instruments and employ those engineers to come up with that. This obsession of yours to follow my messages and attack me is pathetic to say the least.
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Oh, so the fact that Queen was merely experimenting (hence their reputation for being a experimental, innovative band) does not appeal to you?
Pity.
That is EXACTLY what Queen was all about: always trying something new, hardly any repitition, 'tackling' different kinds of music genres, extending horizons etc.
Hot Space is just a simple result of this. Did it succeed? No, unfortunately. So, was it a waste of time? A definite no. They tried, they failed (in general, that is): they just put it down to experience.
Sebastian · Member since
Queen tried new things, but with quality. [i]Somebody to Love[/i] was new and they did it great; [i]Dear Friends, Master-Stroke, Bo Rhap, Best Friend[/i]... when it came to 'Hot Space' and other stuff, they didn't, in [b]MY[/b] opinion.
Sheer Brass Neck · Member since
Well, I wouldn't call it a waste of time, space and money as I think it's the sign of artists trying to stretch their artistic muscle. I read that legendary British DJ John Peel was a huge early supporter, but felt that they lost their way with ANATO. He felt they were going to be an amazing hard rock band, but when the campy influences became more prevalent on ANATO, he sort of felt they lost the plot. Point being, Queen were what Queen were. They were an amalgam of everything that became a one in a lifetime original act. Unfortunately Hot Space suffered from poor instrumentation, but that was the wave at the start of the 80s. Some of the songs like Staying Power and Action this Day could have been monstrous with better instrument choices (no synth bass on Staying Power, no cheesy synth/sax solo on Action.) I don't think it was lack of effort though, Seb. I think it was a band who knew what they were, but didn't know what (or how) they wanted to be.
Sebastian · Member since
Sheer Brass Neck: I agree to disagree. Both you and Rick have different opinions to mine, and both express so with respect and not using sarcasm, bullying or cyber-stalking. We can have opposite views and still have a peaceful time here.
Sheer Brass Neck · Member since
True Sebastian, sometimes people around here are intolerant of opinions that don't match their own. It's funny what the person said about Queen needing you or someone like you to tell what to do. I know they were being sarcastic, but the reality is Queen in their later years (even now with QPR) desperately needed the opinions of people who aren't yes men. Having someone thing that the type of music being played on TCR would win an audience in 2008 was absurd, with cliched mid-tempo rockers. They've needed to be freshened up artistically many times, but when you've their success would you listen to an outsider?
PauloPanucci · Member since
PauloPanucci · Member since
Hey, i'm new in the site,,, and The Michael jackson Topic in the Brazilian fan-club turns war. One said that he likes Michael jackson, other said that Michael Jackson is an idiot. I have my opinion,, i respect everbody,, i think everbory have a opinion...
I love the album hotspace and thriller.... But i stay with hotspace, i prefer it!!!!!
True Sebastian, sometimes people around here are intolerant of opinions that don't match their own. It's funny what the person said about Queen needing you or someone like you to tell what to do. I know they were being sarcastic, but the reality is Queen in their later years (even now with QPR) desperately needed the opinions of people who aren't yes men. Having someone thing that the type of music being played on TCR would win an audience in 2008 was absurd, with cliched mid-tempo rockers. They've needed to be freshened up artistically many times, but when you've their success would you listen to an outsider?[/QUOTE]
Yes so right! How could they even imagine that it would be successful? It was a record for their fun but they sounded dated from the first day of release..
But who could have told them that? I can imagine it is difficult to say..
I know that making a good record is very difficult but we are talking about the creme de la creme of rock musicians. It could have been so much better...I mean, Paul singing: Once i saw a butterfly...bla bla bla...my dick doesnt get hard from that!!
mike hunt · Member since
of course hot space could have been better, listen to the live versions. They kick ass. The bottom line is that not every album is gonna be great. Action this day is good the way it is, I like the sax at the end of the song, but live it's a masterpiece. same with staying power. A good song in the studio, but live it kicked ass. The songs I don't like are dancer, body language, put out the fire, and maybe calling all girls. That's 4 songs I don't like, so obviously I feel the album could have been better.
doxonrox · Member since
The Real Wizard · Member since
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[b]Sheer Brass Neck wrote: [/b]
Queen in their later years (even now with QPR) desperately needed the opinions of people who aren't yes men. Having someone thing that the type of music being played on TCR would win an audience in 2008 was absurd, with cliched mid-tempo rockers. They've needed to be freshened up artistically many times, but when you've their success would you listen to an outsider?
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This is exactly what Rush did with their latest album, Snakes And Arrows. They got a producer who wasn't a yes-man, who would tell them when something was going wrong or didn't sound good. Result: the strongest Rush album since Signals, or even Moving Pictures.
Sheer Brass Neck · Member since
It's the age old conundrum for any aging artist, Sir GH. In the 90s, the Stones did some work with Biz Markie to sound more contemporary and it sounded ridiculous and forced. But if they did typical Stones stuff we'd all say same old Stones stuff. Queen tried with Hot Space and it didn't work, but IMHO a song like Breakthru really incorporated some good beats that were non-Queen like and that was really successful newer Queen sound for the late 80s. Look at Bon Jovi doing a country crossover album. That's pathetic as that's not even close to their roots, but it was wildly successful sales wise. I'd rather see Queen do (better that TCR) classic sounding rock than become 60 year old emo or dance guys. [/QUOTE] [/QUOTE]
