If you JUST looked up Steve Perry and haven’t heard him before, you really don’t have any place commenting on musicianship and music in general. I’m sorry you really need to do some homework on the art of rock/pop music before you begin an argument against/judgment of other artist. It would be the same as if I tried commenting on baseball. I’m going to end up looking the fool.
mike hunt · Member since
Mercury SingerOfLife wrote: Thistleboy 1980 wrote: Look Mike, all I'm going to say is that because I didn't say it all the way you would have doesn't make me wrong. Sure, it doesn't make me right, but YOU don't dictate the way someone puts an argument across. Like I say, some of the things were put in there just to catch Amir/Max out - if he had come back with the same argument you did RE Hot Space and to an extent Barcelona (which was a great, valid comeback btw), then he would have beat his own argument and that was my aim. But he didn't, because he doesn't actually know what he's talking about, he's just over opinionated. My opinions may not exactly be the correct ones, but at least I can state why I think that way, on my own - not what you want me to say, or believe I should have said. ========================================================================= How would i beat my own argument if i said what he said. What mike said was more in favor of the fact that freddie was indeed the most important part of queen with brian maybe second
Listen you are no better in what you do , i could make a case that you state your oppinion as fact too. You are talking like it is for sure that they are all equals and that im 100% wrong.
i said or meant to say IMO freddie was slightly more important, brian is right up there. It comes down to who your personal favorite is...... That's just my opinion, it's not a fact. You are 100% wrong because you said Freddie was Queen, or at least 75%.. That's simply not true.....Thistleboy....i made my points, you made yours. we agree on most things. Let's just leave it at that. all four members were great. This thread shouldn't have gone this far....6 pages?......
mike hunt · Member since
Burn On Dakota wrote: If you JUST looked up Steve Perry and haven’t heard him before, you really don’t have any place commenting on musicianship and music in general. I’m sorry you really need to do some homework on the art of rock/pop music before you begin an argument against/judgment of other artist. It would be the same as if I tried commenting on baseball. I’m going to end up looking the fool.
Steve perry was a great love ballads singer, maybe the best of all time at that one style, but did he ever sing anything else?...
Burn On Dakota · Member since
mike hunt wrote: Burn On Dakota wrote: If you JUST looked up Steve Perry and haven’t heard him before, you really don’t have any place commenting on musicianship and music in general. I’m sorry you really need to do some homework on the art of rock/pop music before you begin an argument against/judgment of other artist. It would be the same as if I tried commenting on baseball. I’m going to end up looking the fool.
Steve perry was a great love ballads singer, maybe the best of all time at that one style, but did he ever sing anything else?...
Well journey wasn’t just ballads. Now with that said I friken hate Journey with a passion, and I hate Steve Perry. I’m not getting in to the argument of who is better between Perry and Mercury hands down Fred wins. But I am amazed that this kid is so adamant that his views are correct and he is a “real musician” which gives him the ability to declare lady gaga a puppet (and again I am not a fan of her’s) and he hasn’t heard Steve Perry before!
Hugowan · Member since
MercurySingerOfLife wrote:
I have seen Freddie guide brian on how to play the riff on One vision and i have seen him guide Roger on the drums. That right there is more evidence that you come up with. You claim that its not that way without any evidence yet i give you visual evidence of it being true. ___________________
Oh! you were right all this time, MercurySingerOfLife wrote! Roy Thomas Baker has just sent me an email to clarify all this matter:
He states that Freddie not just told everyone how to play their instruments in all the songs released and unreleased, written or not by him! but he also prepared the mixer, tuned the guitars, bass guitars, drums, pianos, ukeleles and banjos; he personally was responsible to buy all the strings, drumheads, cymbals and drumsticks, and obviously, the mics, since he had to pick the unique types that produced that MERCURY sound...
He was the chief electrician, carpenter, wardrobe designer and taylored all the costumes, not just for his background musicians, but also for all the crew.
As a PS, Roy is happy to finally reveal that the footage shown from the making of One Vision is a retake done by the Torpedo Twins, where the background musicians are shown holding their instrumens, while it was Freddie himself who played'em originally, as it was satated above.
We all apologize our inconvenient misunderstood. Soon I'll forward you a copy of Roy's message.
By the way your song is overwhelming! the must precious piece of music ever released, and played in such an exquisite execution... the way you close your eyes and feel the music balancing your head are something no one could achieve in this planet. Thanks heavens Freddies is resting by now, or he would have felt that it was such a waste of time his whole career against your enormous talent...
jpf · Member since
mike hunt wrote: Burn On Dakota wrote: If you JUST looked up Steve Perry and haven’t heard him before, you really don’t have any place commenting on musicianship and music in general. I’m sorry you really need to do some homework on the art of rock/pop music before you begin an argument against/judgment of other artist. It would be the same as if I tried commenting on baseball. I’m going to end up looking the fool.
Steve perry was a great love ballads singer, maybe the best of all time at that one style, but did he ever sing anything else?... ---
Perry was a rock singer. Journey didn't just write ballads.
The Real Wizard · Member since
Burn On Dakota wrote:
It would be the same as if I tried commenting on baseball. I’m going to end up looking the fool.
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Wait, so it would be foolish to say soccer is better than baseball even if you had never watched baseball? Say it isn't so!
Over the Field · Member since
I don't think that only catchy melodies and chord structures can be labelled as "good music" as Amir referred when pointing to Freddie. Music is subjective.
FriedChicken · Member since
Suuuuuuuuuure, Freddie's flopped solo career shows he was Queen.
And did everybody forget Freddie's horrible collaborations? Love is the Hero, Emotions in Motion, wake up..
Pingfah · Member since
Mercury SingerOfLife wrote:
Who am i? I consider myself a real musician thats who i am, and i dont care how much she has sold and how i have not sold nothing.
Gaga is a huge supporter for human rights... haha let me just laugh at that for a moment. Gaga is an puppet for the Illuminati , one of the groups that control and run this world and with the goal to enslave the whole human race. The signs with the eye she does all the time in her videos and she has their symbol the,All seeing eye, it can be seen on the back of the Dollar bill.
And also by the video she did with that OTHER illuminati puppet Beyonce... that really shows what good intentions she has... Poisoning peoples food and killing them symbolically , yea that is really a nice thought for an human rights supporter..
Please people , stop being so damn naive and open your eyes, you are being brainwashed as we speak.
You are either a paranoid freak or a worthless troll.
And damn, this messageboard is SHIT. How long does it take to set up a PHPBB or something similar. About 5 frickin minutes?? QueenZone, chuck me £100 and i'll give you a proper messageboard that actually works.
Mercuryking · Member since
By the way your song is overwhelming! the must precious piece of music ever released, and played in such an exquisite execution... the way you close your eyes and feel the music balancing your head are something no one could achieve in this planet. Thanks heavens Freddies is resting by now, or he would have felt that it was such a waste of time his whole career against your enormous talent...
you try creating a song like that before you open your mouth. If you think its easy to come up with songs like that then hey start making hundreds of them and show me. Jelous guy.
Mercuryking · Member since
You guys are right , i take it all back. Freddie Mercury was just a great musician like the rest of the great 1000 and more musicians out there. What was i thinking saying he is truly a one of a kind and that noone can compare to him.
When i listen to what you guys say ,suddenly i found hundreds of Freddies out theere , i just wasnt looking well enough.
mike hunt · Member since
Mercury SingerOfLife wrote: You guys are right , i take it all back. Freddie Mercury was just a great musician like the rest of the great 1000 and more musicians out there. What was i thinking saying he is truly a one of a kind and that noone can compare to him.
When i listen to what you guys say ,suddenly i found hundreds of Freddies out theere , i just wasnt looking well enough.
It's ok Kid...take a deep breath.....we're all fans here. We Just disagree that freddie was Queen. Do some research on how Influencial Brian May was as a guitarist.
Silken · Member since
As I (and other posters) said before, Queen was the four of them and each member was irreplaceable.
But, as regards the making of One Vision, I think that the others were waiting for Freddie's guidance. It looks like they knew that Freddie was the one who knew what was right. At least it's the impression I get.
Let's just trust Brian's words: “We were very equal and very competitive. Nobody got away with a single note that the other three didn’t think was OK.”
Gregsynth · Member since
Why do people say Freddie's solo career flopped, when he had several top ten hits? Granted, his solo success wasn't close to Queen's, but Freddie did have high-charting material!
Out of the 3 members (who had solo stuff), Freddie's stuff was the most successful!