Queen "Elite!".

[b] [QUOTE]Micrówave wrote: 
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Nah... that's not "elitist" at all.

Maybe you should quit riding John's coat-tails and step off your high horse.  It's people like YOU that keep the traders trading rather than sharing freely... and give the secret society a bad reputation now.  I'm soooo tired ofthe "do you know what I had to do to get this?" attitude.  It's also people like YOU that keep Queen from releasing material that they, apparently, have no control of.  As a performer, that would really piss me off.  Have you ever thought about or acknowledged that fact?

Do you know what I had to do to get to this point in my life?  No?  Well, then we're both content.  I didn't realize that you were so high & mighty, but your ramblings are a but childish and immature... like the people that you complain about.  If you would rather have your secret clubhouse, that's your call.  But the shame of it all is that all you do is continue to stir the flames when a bit a humility would go a lot further.  It's music that you had NO PART in creating anyways, yet you want to be the one who "shared" it with fans?  That's outrageous...  you, sir, have an agenda.

You have to be "Brian's Wig" so I'm not sure what your relevance in the Queen world is.  John, on the other hand, doesn't need to be anonymous.  Whatever a select few may think, he is HIGHLY regarded in this community and I have never seen that "elitist" side to him which bothers you so.  He is also HIGHLY regarded by the members of the band.   I hope you can get over this. [/QUOTE]

 Microwave - I rather deal with his straight-forward nature than people who want things from you and yet bad-mouth you and gloat over your mistake.

[QUOTE] [b]Holly2003 wrote:[/b]
It's really that simple John? A few trades? So .. how come so much of what we suspect to be in private collector's hands has never seen the light of day. [/QUOTE]
How about this - instead of complaining, why don't you find a rare song, spend a few thousand dollars on it and share it here?

Or is it easier to condemn others for not doing what you think they should be doing?

[QUOTE] [b]John S Stuart wrote:[/b]
Why don't you go and get some rarities of your own?
But I expect you will be part of the point-and-click generation?
Also WHAT is with this "I am a Queen Fan - so I deserve this?"
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Bang on.

If one good thing has come from these threads, it's been exposing exactly who has a sense of entitlement and who doesn't. Enlightening, actually.

This is what I find most interesting...

Without exception, the people who are having a go at collectors have never ONCE contributed anything to this forum.

Yet they have all benefited from said collectors.

Or are they going to say they have never gone on to youtube to listen to an unreleased song or watched a clip from the Hyde Park, Earls Court or Houston shows? .... i.e. videos brought to you by collectors?

If not, then what are you guys doing on a Queen forum if all you listen to is the official releases? Surely there must be some other band you're more interested in.

The hypocrisy is just stunning.

..."then what are you guys doing on a Queen forum if all you listen to is the official releases?"

that's so stupid, I'm not even gonna comment - just think about what you typed

Respectfully,

"You aren't important, the music is. I think you've forgotten that. And to be honest, the music is gettin less important as the years go by"

+100.

If that arrangement makes you guys uncomfortable, throw in the towel, because it will only be compounded by time.

The actual music industry has had to wise up when looking for ways to stay relevant and keep their assets valuable ... why should collectors be immune?

Double post, but while I'm here - there isn't one of you guys that can say that you're in a situation you didn't create yourselves. This latest guff with that moron Fuller is what you get for dealing with a nimrod. Now that you've learned your lesson - onward and upward! Keep Calm and Carry On. Or whatever axiom appeals to you the most.

[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Holly2003 wrote:[/b]
It's really that simple John? A few trades? So .. how come so much of what we suspect to be in private collector's hands has never seen the light of day. [/QUOTE]
How about this - instead of complaining, why don't you find a rare song, spend a few thousand dollars on it and share it here?
Or is it easier to condemn others for not doing what you think they should be doing?[/QUOTE]

Complaining? Awkward questions maybe. I have other things to spend my "few thousand dollars" on. And of course not being part of your secret trading group doesn't preclude me from commenting on Queenzone. It's not one pr the other. Or are you suggesting that only total supporters are allowed to speak?

[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
This is what I find most interesting...
Without exception, the people who are having a go at collectors have never ONCE contributed anything to this forum.
Yet they have all benefited from said collectors.
Or are they going to say they have never gone on to youtube to listen to an unreleased song or watched a clip from the Hyde Park, Earls Court or Houston shows? .... i.e. videos brought to you by collectors?
If not, then what are you guys doing on a Queen forum if all you listen to is the official releases? Surely there must be some other band you're more interested in.
The hypocrisy is just stunning.[/QUOTE]

There's that elitism coming to the fore again. But of course, you're not elitist, that's just a misconception lol.

[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
This is what I find most interesting...
Without exception, the people who are having a go at collectors have never ONCE contributed anything to this forum.
Yet they have all benefited from said collectors.
Or are they going to say they have never gone on to youtube to listen to an unreleased song or watched a clip from the Hyde Park, Earls Court or Houston shows? .... i.e. videos brought to you by collectors?
If not, then what are you guys doing on a Queen forum if all you listen to is the official releases? Surely there must be some other band you're more interested in.
The hypocrisy is just stunning.[/QUOTE]

What I find most interesting and most hypocritical is that traders (who by definition aren't going to share anything freely) are craving for recognition and praises for their hard work when something accidentally slips from the inner circle to the masses.

You can either you keep trading with an ever decreasing inner circle and hoard all the material to a select few, or you can release it for the public and let people feel any way they want about it (and you).

For all I care you can take your precious collection to the grave with you. You seem to have made it a larger than life issue for yourself, but it's not that important to the general population.

[QUOTE] [b]Zebonka12 wrote:[/b]
" I'm surprised someone with over 10000 posts on a Queen fan site doesn't understand why someone would pay for Queen material?!?"
Starting your post with the words 'Before the net' was a pretty good way to undermine the rest of it. It might've made sense once upon a time to put money into these things, but now it's different. .[/QUOTE]
You'll need to explain this further please.... so you say "before the net" undermines my argument and then you say "it might have made sense once upon a time"???
So was spending money before the internet came around a waste of time or did it make sense? Are you actually agreeing with me then that it was easier to buy bootlegs/rare stuff BEFORE the internet made it a doddle to share easier and safer?

You've got a good way of totally changing the theme of someone's arguments and questions to something totally that suits you're arguments btw. Don't think I've read you once actually saying "hey, you could be right and I'm wrong", usually you just try make a joke when the argument is running away from you.

[QUOTE] [b]YourValentine wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Holly2003 wrote:[/b]
If QPL are after the Sun City material as ghostwithasmile says I find it hard to believe that a fan could possibly outbid them.
. [/QUOTE]

Maybe John S Stuart could cos he's a "millionaire"

[QUOTE] [b]brians wig wrote:[/b]
Do you know what?
I'd absolutely LOVE us all to live in a world where we all shared our collections freely, but[/QUOTE]

Then why don't you BW? If I LOVE to do something, I just do it! Lifes too short to spend 17 years doing something you hate doing (it's the oppositie of 'love' so i'm taking some liberties here lol).

Can I ask a topic 'related' question to the elites? Do you own in your collections ANYTHING that was stolen from Brian May's house years ago?

If I remember it was in the tabloids?

That guy (or woman) didn't take that stuff to sit and listen to rare Queen tracks OR TRADE! So it's only natural deduction he'd sell it.... and who would buy it??? hmmm