But if most people here don't value this kind of accuracy, then indeed you're right - I'm wasting my time.[/QUOTE]
So why do you continue with the bashing?
What do you get out of it??
Can you give us ONE concrete example of the benefits you've gotten out of this behaviour in the last year?[/QUOTE]
When people say "thanks for the info"
It does happen.
tero! 48531 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]tero! 48531 wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
But if most people here don't value this kind of accuracy, then indeed you're right - I'm wasting my time.[/QUOTE]
So why do you continue with the bashing?
What do you get out of it??
Can you give us ONE concrete example of the benefits you've gotten out of this behaviour in the last year?[/QUOTE]
When people say "thanks for the info"
It does happen.[/QUOTE]
You call your repeated bashing of David info?
And people thank you for it?
The first time around (over a year ago) it might have been info, but it's turned into a petty grudge a LONG time ago.
Thistle · Member since
^ so you keep saying. Take a leaf out of your own book, and get over it :)
C'mon, move on :)
inu-liger · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Thistleboy1980 wrote:[/b]
^ so you keep saying. Take a leaf out of your own book, and get over it :)
C'mon, move on :)[/QUOTE]
DING.
Some people indeed need to move on from their counter grudging and give everyone else breathing space to do the same. Who knows, maybe some human decency and common sense will be allowed to take a driver's seat here once again? :-)
brENsKi · Member since
i can fully understand why the site's fantology members would need to counter- comment.
and to any observer it should be fucking obvious. as i said i have no interests in collecting....
every track i have is at 320kb mp3 or less - i like to listen to stuff and that's it.
but why should collectors let these half-baked ill-thought out accusations go unchecked?
we ALL know how it works - some anti-collector makes some scurrilous comment and if left unchecked
it becomes a future truth....and then there's no undoing it. so i say good luck to them
and while people (non collectors and Fuller-cock-suckers) continue to spread bile and lies
then the collectors not only have the right - they have a responsibility to put the rest of us right.
The Real Wizard · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]brENsKi wrote:[/b]
i can fully understand why the site's fantology members would need to counter- comment.
and to any observer it should be fucking obvious. as i said i have no interests in collecting....
every track i have is at 320kb mp3 or less - i like to listen to stuff and that's it.
but why should collectors let these half-baked ill-thought out accusations go unchecked?
we ALL know how it works - some anti-collector makes some scurrilous comment and if left unchecked
it becomes a future truth....and then there's no undoing it. so i say good luck to them
and while people (non collectors and Fuller-cock-suckers) continue to spread bile and lies
then the collectors not only have the right - they have a responsibility to put the rest of us right. [/QUOTE]
^ standing ovation.
Saint Jiub · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]tero! 48531 wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]tero! 48531 wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
But if most people here don't value this kind of accuracy, then indeed you're right - I'm wasting my time.[/QUOTE]
So why do you continue with the bashing?
What do you get out of it??
Can you give us ONE concrete example of the benefits you've gotten out of this behaviour in the last year?[/QUOTE]
When people say "thanks for the info"
It does happen.[/QUOTE]
You call your repeated bashing of David info?
And people thank you for it?
The first time around (over a year ago) it might have been info, but it's turned into a petty grudge a LONG time ago.[/QUOTE]
So what does Real Wizard get out bashing those he perceives as ignorant, newbies and David Fuller (his behavior for the past year)?
tero! 48531 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]inu-liger wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Thistleboy1980 wrote:[/b]
^ so you keep saying. Take a leaf out of your own book, and get over it :)
C'mon, move on :)[/QUOTE]
DING.
Some people indeed need to move on from their counter grudging and give everyone else breathing space to do the same. Who knows, maybe some human decency and common sense will be allowed to take a driver's seat here once again? :-)[/QUOTE]
So let's make a deal.
Let's all "get over it".
Starting from now, I won't take part in any discussion about David Fuller, or mention any of your / the traders past (real or perceived) actions against him.
You of course have no reason to talk about him either, since you've already told your side of the events.
If a "newbie" happens to ask about him and/or the rare trading material, you can simply refer to the old discussion and say there's nothing more for the public to see at the moment.
By next year David Fuller be forgotten.
Sounds simple, doesn't it?
The Real Wizard · Member since
Aye. Good strategy.
inu-liger · Member since
I think that's a good compromise. Now, if we're going to refer the noobs to a particular topic where both sides of the argument have played out in plenty of detail either way, what topic can we agree on to use as the 'go to' reference?
The distribution of material, the response from the collectors, David's own response, some points about trading in general, and my scepticism of the fanthology's view.
The Real Wizard · Member since
^ it's a good primer, but plenty more juicy details emerged since then.
This is david fullers version in his own words. This is what HE says...
in hindsight notice how fuller admits he [b]leaked[/b] stuff (not released) by his own admission. he claims only two versions of a single track exits one with him and the other in fanthology. So why leak it after he joined this club. He knew what he was joining so why breach its term and conditions. why leak it when he knew he was not supposed to and while it was worth some trading value. Seem to me he did so cos he got it!
i don't think this track was ever heard of before by [b]anyone[/b]. i think this was another JSS exclusive which nobdy in the queen world had prior to this time. this is easy to solve. did anyone even know of this track before its release. Someone in here must off. so he lied about the American collector to release a one-off track.
he also claims he did [b]most[/b] of the uploading. if that is the case why is he only leaking the JSS acetates and not his own stuff. that is spite. the truth i think is that the fanthology are correct and that he uploaded nothing therefore the only stuff he can leak is the JSS stuff. why has he never shared anything that [b]he[/b] uploaded but that others did. Simples - he has nothing else to offer.
Fuller has also done this to make himself look [b]bigger[/b] by saying[b] if not for me[/b] and stealing all the glory from those who are working behind the scences. he was the [b]first[/b] one to mention fanthology (breaking another promise) while he was still a member and did so in such a negative way that the smell has stuck in here ever since.
Looking back it is all there. the fuller lies and his deception. how he tried to steal the fanthology thunder for himself. how he tried to make them look like the hoarders while he himself is either a liar or the biggest horder of all.
Being reasonable and without bias this is why the fanthology have always been a bad word in here because a judas betreyed them and the board has suffered ever since.
The times move on. so forget him, and lets stop making him the Queenzone messiah.
tero! 48531 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
^ it's a good primer, but plenty more juicy details emerged since then.[/QUOTE]
I'd say that initial responses beat juicy details any day.
Because they are less calculated and more emotional, they tend to be closer to the truth.
The further the debate progresses, the more people start to split hairs and pick faults in every detail they can think of.
brENsKi · Member since
except that most of the sayings/expressions used as analogies for establishment of truth would bear out the opposite opinion Tero
"no stone unturned"
“There is nothing more deceptive than an obvious fact.” (arthur conan doyle)
“The truth is more important than the facts.” (frank lloyd wright)
Where facts are few, experts are many
Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored.
Facts are facts and will not disappear on account of your likes.
There are three sides to every story: yours, theirs and the truth
The truth hurts for a while but a lie hurts forever.
Time discovers truth. (Seneca)
Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.
(John Adams)
i'l keep the best for last: from one of the greatest thinkers my country ever produced
“The truth is rarely pure and never simple.” (oscar wilde)
